Re: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
René Berber schrieb: Reini Urban wrote: [snip] And while we are here and there is still the latest release pending for some days, I just want to say that the test version in setup.exe is featurewise almost the same and the delay of the 0.84 release proper is caused by some change in the build system. [snip] Clamav-0.84 compiles almost out of the box, shared libraries and all. The almost is because the libtool generated lacks the -shared parameter for building the libraries, other than that there is no problem, including the new contrib program clamdmon, all tested and working. So the question is: what change in the build system? That's the question, yes. They still ship their libtool with the LIBTOOL sections inside acinclude.m4 and not in aclocal.m4, as if libtool was not standard and stable enough, as if they have to override our libtool. I'm having a hard time debugging this with every change. Either take their libtool and add -shared support for their 1.4.2a, or take 1.5.10 and fix aclocal.m4 and acinclude.m4. From 0.85 on I'll probably just reduce the huge libtool patch, and replace their ltmain.sh with 1.5.10 to support -shared. I'm testing and packaging this version right now. (0.85) -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ http://phpwiki.org/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
Reini Urban wrote: [snip] So the question is: what change in the build system? That's the question, yes. They still ship their libtool with the LIBTOOL sections inside acinclude.m4 and not in aclocal.m4, as if libtool was not standard and stable enough, as if they have to override our libtool. I'm having a hard time debugging this with every change. Either take their libtool and add -shared support for their 1.4.2a, or take 1.5.10 and fix aclocal.m4 and acinclude.m4. From 0.85 on I'll probably just reduce the huge libtool patch, and replace their ltmain.sh with 1.5.10 to support -shared. I'm testing and packaging this version right now. (0.85) Thanks for the reply. I agree that the clamav package needs a patch sent to the developers to make it compile out of the box under Cygwin, updating libtool seems like a good idea. Regards, -- René Berber -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
René Berber schrieb: Reini Urban wrote: [snip] So the question is: what change in the build system? That's the question, yes. They still ship their libtool with the LIBTOOL sections inside acinclude.m4 and not in aclocal.m4, as if libtool was not standard and stable enough, as if they have to override our libtool. I'm having a hard time debugging this with every change. Either take their libtool and add -shared support for their 1.4.2a, or take 1.5.10 and fix aclocal.m4 and acinclude.m4. From 0.85 on I'll probably just reduce the huge libtool patch, and replace their ltmain.sh with 1.5.10 to support -shared. I'm testing and packaging this version right now. (0.85) Thanks for the reply. I agree that the clamav package needs a patch sent to the developers to make it compile out of the box under Cygwin, updating libtool seems like a good idea. They dont need a patch, since it compiles OOTB with a recent libtool under cygwin. I told them very often to update their libtool and esp. not to include standard m4 macros in acinclude.m4, which is strictly against the autotool philosophy. They shoudl go to aclocal.m4. But since it only affects cygwin so far, Thomas is probably not concerned enough. All other platforms compile fine with libtool 1.4.2a yet. -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ http://phpwiki.org/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
Reini Urban wrote: [snip] They dont need a patch, since it compiles OOTB with a recent libtool under cygwin. I told them very often to update their libtool and esp. not to include standard m4 macros in acinclude.m4, which is strictly against the autotool philosophy. They shoudl go to aclocal.m4. But since it only affects cygwin so far, Thomas is probably not concerned enough. All other platforms compile fine with libtool 1.4.2a yet. Don't call him Thomas it is Tomasz (I know it's the same but you never know if it annoys him, hey maybe that's why he doesn't change libtool ;-). -- René Berber -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
bob sandefur wrote: Hi- Apparently Norton antivirus is getting a false positive with rsync and wget. I would really like to dump Norton AntiVirus but I have never found any AV program to be very satisfactory. I would like the following: 1. 64-bit compatible (if the drivers ever show up I will migrate to xp64) 2. Relatively cheap for up to 10 machines (every year I buy enough three or five packs of Norton for about 10 or 20 bucks with rebates, uninstall the old version and run the new version for a year. This is much cheaper than upgrading through the Norton web site.). 3. Auto updating. 4. Cygwin friendly I use AVG myself, but the ultimate option for Cygwin-friendliness is the port of clamscan already in the 'net Release. You'll have to set up a cron tab to run freshclam to autoupdate clamscan, though (someone else will have to advise you on that). -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
Larry Hall schrieb: While discussion of this may be useful to folks on this list, anything beyond Cygwin's clamav package is probably off-topic here. Can I suggest you take this to the cygwin-talk list instead? It would certainly be on- topic there. And while we are here and there is still the latest release pending for some days, I just want to say that the test version in setup.exe is featurewise almost the same and the delay of the 0.84 release proper is caused by some change in the build system. clamav-devel is also talking now about adding a klamuko-like on-access scanner to windows also. (It was written by some AntiVir.de developer, one of the best scanners on windows, so it should be no problem ...) -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ http://phpwiki.org/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
Reini Urban wrote: [snip] And while we are here and there is still the latest release pending for some days, I just want to say that the test version in setup.exe is featurewise almost the same and the delay of the 0.84 release proper is caused by some change in the build system. [snip] Clamav-0.84 compiles almost out of the box, shared libraries and all. The almost is because the libtool generated lacks the -shared parameter for building the libraries, other than that there is no problem, including the new contrib program clamdmon, all tested and working. So the question is: what change in the build system? Regards. -- René Berber -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
At 02:02 PM 5/3/2005, bob sandefur wrote: Hi- Apparently Norton antivirus is getting a false positive with rsync and wget. I would really like to dump Norton AntiVirus but I have never found any AV program to be very satisfactory. I would like the following: 1. 64-bit compatible (if the drivers ever show up I will migrate to xp64) Every one I've tried runs the same on 64-bit Windows, including current MacAfee ( except for none of the disasters like it provokes on 32 bits), and clamav (either the one inside cygwin or the separate one). AMD has been running radio ads around here claiming that you get better virus protection when running 32-bit AV on 32-bit Windows on a 64-bit machine. Some think they did it just to see if they could drive our management insane. I don't know how you can see a false positive in with today's sober.p barrage. Tim Prince -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
At 05:02 PM 5/3/2005, you wrote: Hi- Apparently Norton antivirus is getting a false positive with rsync and wget. I would really like to dump Norton AntiVirus but I have never found any AV program to be very satisfactory. I would like the following: 1. 64-bit compatible (if the drivers ever show up I will migrate to xp64) 2. Relatively cheap for up to 10 machines (every year I buy enough three or five packs of Norton for about 10 or 20 bucks with rebates, uninstall the old version and run the new version for a year. This is much cheaper than upgrading through the Norton web site.). 3. Auto updating. 4. Cygwin friendly Any big successes or failures in the antivirus department for cygwin users? (so far avast looks ok to me) While discussion of this may be useful to folks on this list, anything beyond Cygwin's clamav package is probably off-topic here. Can I suggest you take this to the cygwin-talk list instead? It would certainly be on- topic there. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Best antivirus for cygwin? - was Norton antivirus and the Trojans
[Followups to cygwin-talk] Hi- Apparently Norton antivirus is getting a false positive with rsync and wget. I would really like to dump Norton AntiVirus but I have never found any AV program to be very satisfactory. I would like the following: 1. 64-bit compatible (if the drivers ever show up I will migrate to xp64) 2. Relatively cheap for up to 10 machines (every year I buy enough three or five packs of Norton for about 10 or 20 bucks with rebates, uninstall the old version and run the new version for a year. This is much cheaper than upgrading through the Norton web site.). 3. Auto updating. 4. Cygwin friendly Any big successes or failures in the antivirus department for cygwin users? (so far avast looks ok to me) Thanx The main thing I've found that causes problems for not only Cygwin but other programs is the feature they all have where they scan files as they're being written and/or read from disk. With any AV I use, I *always* turn these off and always turn the incoming-email scanning on. I can't recall ever having an AV-related problem since implementing that policy. -- Gary R. Van Sickle -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
