RE: [htdocs PATCH] Ping Igor! [was RE: Rebase All command.....]
Original Message From: Christopher Faylor Sent: 28 April 2005 04:40 On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:36:07PM -0700, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: On 4/27/05, Dave Korn wrote: It occurs to me that a lot of people don't know how to PCYM* if it doesn't already support such functionality, so I suddenly thought we should add another couple of lines to the OLOCA entry mentioning quotefix. Igor? Good point. It would be better as a FAQ entry, perhaps. I'm afraid I have a similar philosophy about the FAQ; that's really not a question specific to Cygwin. So, just to close the loop, the place where this should probably go is to the overseers list with a suggested change for the sourceware mailing list FAQ at http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq . Well, I'm not going to suggest it there myself, because PCYM is an entirely cygwin-list-specific thing. (I've noticed we have very different etiquette here from the remaining sourceware lists, all of which are much keener on quoting people's email addresses and indeed on Cc'ing everyone in the thread personally rather than keeping it to the lists and PCYMing.) So it belongs on that page even less IMO than it does in the OLOCA or FAQ. How to configure your mailer is indeed a generic and non-cygwin-related question, but How to PCYM would be meaningless anywhere else *except* somewhere cygwin-specific. I guess the best thing is to leave it documented in the place where it already is documented: in the many many archived threads from this list where it has been mentioned, and we just have to hope people will remember to STFW when they're told to PCYM. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [htdocs PATCH] Ping Igor! [was RE: Rebase All command.....]
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 05:10:48PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: Original Message From: Christopher Faylor Sent: 28 April 2005 04:40 On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:36:07PM -0700, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: On 4/27/05, Dave Korn wrote: It occurs to me that a lot of people don't know how to PCYM* if it doesn't already support such functionality, so I suddenly thought we should add another couple of lines to the OLOCA entry mentioning quotefix. Igor? Good point. It would be better as a FAQ entry, perhaps. I'm afraid I have a similar philosophy about the FAQ; that's really not a question specific to Cygwin. So, just to close the loop, the place where this should probably go is to the overseers list with a suggested change for the sourceware mailing list FAQ at http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq . Well, I'm not going to suggest it there myself, because PCYM is an entirely cygwin-list-specific thing. (I've noticed we have very different etiquette here from the remaining sourceware lists, all of which are much keener on quoting people's email addresses and indeed on Cc'ing everyone in the thread personally rather than keeping it to the lists and PCYMing.) That's just bad manners and laziness, however. Every so often the mailing list software bounces a message because people have included everyone in a gcc thread plus the gcc mailing list itself in their replies and they trip an excess number of senders spam rule. Also, you will occasionally see Don't cc me in any of the other active lists. I actually complained about quoting email once in the gdb list, myself. In any event, I wouldn't have suggested it if I didn't think that it would receive some consideration in the overseers list. It has come up there before, IIRC. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: [htdocs PATCH] Ping Igor! [was RE: Rebase All command.....]
Original Message From: Christopher Faylor Sent: 28 April 2005 17:26 On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 05:10:48PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: Original Message From: Christopher Faylor Sent: 28 April 2005 04:40 So, just to close the loop, the place where this should probably go is to the overseers list with a suggested change for the sourceware mailing list FAQ at http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq . Well, I'm not going to suggest it there myself, because PCYM is an entirely cygwin-list-specific thing. (I've noticed we have very different etiquette here from the remaining sourceware lists, all of which are much keener on quoting people's email addresses and indeed on Cc'ing everyone in the thread personally rather than keeping it to the lists and PCYMing.) That's just bad manners and laziness, however. Well, I'm not as certain as all that myself. It seemed to me to be just a very different culture, but maybe it's just that there isn't as much self-enforcement of community standards on those lists as there is in here? Also, you will occasionally see Don't cc me in any of the other active lists. True. But pretty rarely as compared to how often you see it complained about here, whereas you see it *happen* an awful lot *more* often than it happens here. In any event, I wouldn't have suggested it if I didn't think that it would receive some consideration in the overseers list. It has come up there before, IIRC. OK, that's something I just didn't know, so I'll reconsider. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Rebase All command.....
Original Message From: Cliff Hones Sent: 26 April 2005 22:40 DavidPostill wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:46:45 +0530, Ashwin N ashwin.n OI gmail.com wrote: ^ On 4/21/05, Dave Korn dave.korn N artimi.com wrote: ^^ [...] http://cygwin.com/acronyms#YHBT ! YHBT is not there on that page :) YHBT - You Have Been Trolled Or, here in the UK, You Have Been Tango'd (from a TV commercial). -- Cliff Never mind all that, what you both clearly need to read is in fact http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PCYMTNQREAIYR ! cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Rebase All command.....
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:05:05 +0100, Dave Korn wrote: | Original Message | From: Cliff Hones | Sent: 26 April 2005 22:40 | | DavidPostill wrote: | On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:46:45 +0530, Ashwin N ashwin.n OI gmail.com | wrote: | ^ | | | On 4/21/05, Dave Korn dave.korn N artimi.com wrote: |^^ | | | [...] |http://cygwin.com/acronyms#YHBT ! | | YHBT is not there on that page :) | | YHBT - You Have Been Trolled | | Or, here in the UK, You Have Been Tango'd (from a TV commercial). | | -- Cliff | | | Never mind all that, what you both clearly need to read is in fact | | http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PCYMTNQREAIYR ! Ooops. Apologies. Agent now reconfigured to display full name instead of from. Cheers, -- DavidPostill -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
[htdocs PATCH] Ping Igor! [was RE: Rebase All command.....]
Original Message From: DavidPostill Sent: 27 April 2005 15:35 http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PCYMTNQREAIYR ! Ooops. Apologies. Agent now reconfigured to display full name instead of from. Nice one David, thank you! It occurs to me that a lot of people don't know how to PCYM* if it doesn't already support such functionality, so I suddenly thought we should add another couple of lines to the OLOCA entry mentioning quotefix. Igor? cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today oloca-pcym-quotefix.diff Description: Binary data -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [htdocs PATCH] Ping Igor! [was RE: Rebase All command.....]
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Dave Korn wrote: Original Message From: DavidPostill Sent: 27 April 2005 15:35 http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PCYMTNQREAIYR ! Ooops. Apologies. Agent now reconfigured to display full name instead of from. Nice one David, thank you! It occurs to me that a lot of people don't know how to PCYM* if it doesn't already support such functionality, so I suddenly thought we should add another couple of lines to the OLOCA entry mentioning quotefix. Igor? http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00890.html. I'd rather not turn the OLOCA into an FAQ (i.e., I wouldn't want the answer to how do I CMMTNQREAIMR? to appear directly in the OLOCA), but I'm willing to include a link. The problem is that there are many mailers, and every one of them has different ways of configuring the quoting mechanism. Should we include instructions for all of the mailers in the OLOCA? Or just Outlook? What about Outlook Express? You get the picture... Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse... -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: [htdocs PATCH] Ping Igor! [was RE: Rebase All command.....]
Original Message From: Igor Pechtchanski Sent: 27 April 2005 17:10 It occurs to me that a lot of people don't know how to PCYM* if it doesn't already support such functionality, so I suddenly thought we should add another couple of lines to the OLOCA entry mentioning quotefix. Igor? http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-10/msg00890.html. I'd rather not turn the OLOCA into an FAQ (i.e., I wouldn't want the answer to how do I CMMTNQREAIMR? to appear directly in the OLOCA), but I'm willing to include a link. The problem is that there are many mailers, and every one of them has different ways of configuring the quoting mechanism. Should we include instructions for all of the mailers in the OLOCA? Or just Outlook? What about Outlook Express? You get the picture... Good point. It would be better as a FAQ entry, perhaps. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [htdocs PATCH] Ping Igor! [was RE: Rebase All command.....]
On 4/27/05, Dave Korn wrote: It occurs to me that a lot of people don't know how to PCYM* if it doesn't already support such functionality, so I suddenly thought we should add another couple of lines to the OLOCA entry mentioning quotefix. Igor? Good point. It would be better as a FAQ entry, perhaps. I'm afraid I have a similar philosophy about the FAQ; that's really not a question specific to Cygwin. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: [htdocs PATCH] Ping Igor! [was RE: Rebase All command.....]
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:36:07PM -0700, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: On 4/27/05, Dave Korn wrote: It occurs to me that a lot of people don't know how to PCYM* if it doesn't already support such functionality, so I suddenly thought we should add another couple of lines to the OLOCA entry mentioning quotefix. Igor? Good point. It would be better as a FAQ entry, perhaps. I'm afraid I have a similar philosophy about the FAQ; that's really not a question specific to Cygwin. So, just to close the loop, the place where this should probably go is to the overseers list with a suggested change for the sourceware mailing list FAQ at http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq . cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Rebase All command.....
On 4/21/05, Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] http://cygwin.com/acronyms#YHBT ! YHBT is not there on that page :) ~ash -- Ashwin N http://ash.webhop.net/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Rebase All command.....
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Ashwin N wrote: On 4/21/05, Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] http://cygwin.com/acronyms#YHBT ! YHBT is not there on that page :) And won't be. http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BWAM. Igor P.S. For most of these, Google is the best option, anyway. -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse... -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Rebase All command.....
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:46:45 +0530, Ashwin N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On 4/21/05, Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | [...] |http://cygwin.com/acronyms#YHBT ! | | YHBT is not there on that page :) YHBT - You Have Been Trolled -- DavidPostill -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Rebase All command.....
DavidPostill wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:46:45 +0530, Ashwin N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On 4/21/05, Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | [...] |http://cygwin.com/acronyms#YHBT ! | | YHBT is not there on that page :) YHBT - You Have Been Trolled Or, here in the UK, You Have Been Tango'd (from a TV commercial). -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Rebase All command.....
Hi guys.. When I gave command rebase all, my monitor's screen got damaged. I mean 25% of screen is got Black and resizing screen is only upto 80% of total screen.. It appers as full screen sometimes and 80% screen sometimes. Now I have changed my monitor , and this new monitor is working fine. That damaged monitor is not working properly at any other machine.. My question is -- Was that just coincidence or rebase all command had done something??? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Rebase All command.....
Original Message From: Pradip Jadav Sent: 21 April 2005 17:47 Hi guys.. When I gave command rebase all, my monitor's screen got damaged. I mean 25% of screen is got Black and resizing screen is only upto 80% of total screen.. It appers as full screen sometimes and 80% screen sometimes. Now I have changed my monitor , and this new monitor is working fine. That damaged monitor is not working properly at any other machine.. My question is -- Was that just coincidence or rebase all command had done something??? You must have specified the --disable-monitor option! cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Rebase All command.....
ohh that means no chance for recovery... Is there any? shhhi. my fault . I think i did not read document of rebaseall command properly... Anyway thanx for reply... On 4/21/05, Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message From: Pradip Jadav Sent: 21 April 2005 17:47 Hi guys.. When I gave command rebase all, my monitor's screen got damaged. I mean 25% of screen is got Black and resizing screen is only upto 80% of total screen.. It appers as full screen sometimes and 80% screen sometimes. Now I have changed my monitor , and this new monitor is working fine. That damaged monitor is not working properly at any other machine.. My question is -- Was that just coincidence or rebase all command had done something??? You must have specified the --disable-monitor option! cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- With Best Regards Pradip K. Jadav -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Rebase All command.....
Original Message From: Pradip Jadav Sent: 21 April 2005 18:14 ohh that means no chance for recovery... Is there any? shhhi. my fault . I think i did not read document of rebaseall command properly... Anyway thanx for reply... http://cygwin.com/acronyms#YHBT ! cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Rebase All command.....
At 01:14 PM 4/21/2005, you wrote: ohh that means no chance for recovery... Is there any? shhhi. my fault . I think i did not read document of rebaseall command properly... Anyway thanx for reply... On 4/21/05, Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message From: Pradip Jadav Sent: 21 April 2005 17:47 Hi guys.. When I gave command rebase all, my monitor's screen got damaged. snip You must have specified the --disable-monitor option! cheers, DaveK Actually, I think Dave meant the '--damage-monitor' switch. Since it irreparably destroys a monitor, it's an undocumented feature for use only by those who are sure they want to damage their monitor. ;-) -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Rebase All command.....
Original Message From: Larry Hall Sent: 21 April 2005 18:24 At 01:14 PM 4/21/2005, you wrote: ohh that means no chance for recovery... Is there any? shhhi. my fault . I think i did not read document of rebaseall command properly... Anyway thanx for reply... On 4/21/05, Dave Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message From: Pradip Jadav Sent: 21 April 2005 17:47 Hi guys.. When I gave command rebase all, my monitor's screen got damaged. snip You must have specified the --disable-monitor option! cheers, DaveK Actually, I think Dave meant the '--damage-monitor' switch. They're synonyms, Larry. After all, damaging a monitor is usually pretty much the same thing as disabling it. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Rebase All command.....
Original Message From: Pradip Jadav Sent: 21 April 2005 18:14 ohh that means no chance for recovery... Is there any? shhhi. my fault . I think i did not read document of rebaseall command properly... Anyway thanx for reply... Time I told you the truth :) No, it's just a coincidence, there's nothing that rebaseall would have done to your monitor and it was only bad luck that the monitor went wrong at around the same time as you were running it. It's not your fault at all, you didn't do anything wrong! Thanks for being good-humoured about it! cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Rebase All command.....
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Dave Korn wrote: Original Message From: Pradip Jadav Sent: 21 April 2005 17:47 Hi guys.. When I gave command rebase all, my monitor's screen got damaged. I mean 25% of screen is got Black and resizing screen is only upto 80% of total screen.. It appers as full screen sometimes and 80% screen sometimes. Now I have changed my monitor , and this new monitor is working fine. That damaged monitor is not working properly at any other machine.. My question is -- Was that just coincidence or rebase all command had done something??? You must have specified the --disable-monitor option! *ALL YOUR MONITOR ARE BELONG TO US*? Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse... -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
