Re: Redaction request

2010-03-06 Thread Fergus

Your responses to the redaction request were absolutely clear.
No post-edits.
Then: multiple replacements of name by ***.
Some of us have looked worse idiots than the OP ever did, and basically 
live with it.

Why the change (well, complete reversal) in policy?
It sets a truly crazy precedent with who knows what consequences.
Fergus


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Re: Redaction request

2010-03-06 Thread mike marchywka
What?You guys did an edit? I think I can speak as
the leader for people who post stupid things and
normally you just look back and cringe or laugh.
That is what learning is all about.
IF you posted deep questions, people would charge to provide
answers. Simple questions often help others with similar
misunderstandings. Revisionism just for the heck
of it seems to create all kinds of problems.


On 3/6/10, Fergus fer...@bonhard.uklinux.net wrote:
 Your responses to the redaction request were absolutely clear.
 No post-edits.
 Then: multiple replacements of name by ***.
 Some of us have looked worse idiots than the OP ever did, and basically
 live with it.
 Why the change (well, complete reversal) in policy?
 It sets a truly crazy precedent with who knows what consequences.
 Fergus


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Re: Redaction request

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Pendell
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 3:14 PM, mike marchywka wrote:
 What?You guys did an edit? I think I can speak as
 the leader for people who post stupid things and
 normally you just look back and cringe or laugh.
 That is what learning is all about.
 IF you posted deep questions, people would charge to provide
 answers. Simple questions often help others with similar
 misunderstandings. Revisionism just for the heck
 of it seems to create all kinds of problems.




The policy affects the contents of the archive mostly.  It basically
says that anything in the archive stays there and can't be edited or
removed once it gets there.  In other words there are no redactions
made after the post is committed.

Generally speaking though wanting to or actually removing/modifying
statements already made public draws extra attention and tends to
cause the opposite of what is intended.

Robert Pendell
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Re: Redaction request

2010-03-06 Thread mike marchywka
I doubt if there is anything of significance in this case- unlikely
anyone cared really but there are several larger issues. Certainly you
could argue about clutter and quality control but dumb questions do
come up quite often. Revisionism and cherry picking are huge
problems in many areas and don't serve any greater good. People do
stupid things, and often those stupid things have value to others
beyond what they say about the original actors in the event.

So now you need to hire a censor to make free help available? LOL.


On 3/6/10, Robert Pendell shi...@elite-systems.org wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 3:14 PM, mike marchywka wrote:
 What?You guys did an edit? I think I can speak as
 the leader for people who post stupid things and
 normally you just look back and cringe or laugh.
 That is what learning is all about.
 IF you posted deep questions, people would charge to provide
 answers. Simple questions often help others with similar
 misunderstandings. Revisionism just for the heck
 of it seems to create all kinds of problems.




 The policy affects the contents of the archive mostly.  It basically
 says that anything in the archive stays there and can't be edited or
 removed once it gets there.  In other words there are no redactions
 made after the post is committed.

 Generally speaking though wanting to or actually removing/modifying
 statements already made public draws extra attention and tends to
 cause the opposite of what is intended.

 Robert Pendell
 shi...@elite-systems.org
 CAcert Assurer
 A perfect world is one of chaos.

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Re: Redaction Request

2010-03-04 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar  3 16:20, Ravila Helen White wrote:
 Dear Cygwin Team,
 
 I'm writing to find out if you can help me. How can I get my name redacted
 from a post I made years ago. It continues to pop-up as a top google hit.
 These days when co-workers or future employers see such posts it can reflect
 negatively on ones knowledge base.

http://sourceware.org/lists.html


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Redaction Request

2010-03-03 Thread Ravila Helen White
Dear Cygwin Team,

I'm writing to find out if you can help me. How can I get my name redacted
from a post I made years ago. It continues to pop-up as a top google hit.
These days when co-workers or future employers see such posts it can reflect
negatively on ones knowledge base.

I know you are busy, however any help you can provide is greatly
appreciated. I've provided the post in question. Can you please redact my
name from all my posts please?

Thanks in advance.

Kind Regards,

Ravila




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Re: Redaction Request

2010-03-03 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

On 3/3/2010 7:20 PM, Ravila Helen White wrote:

Dear Cygwin Team,

I'm writing to find out if you can help me. How can I get my name redacted
from a post I made years ago. It continues to pop-up as a top google hit.
These days when co-workers or future employers see such posts it can reflect
negatively on ones knowledge base.

I know you are busy, however any help you can provide is greatly
appreciated. I've provided the post in question. Can you please redact my
name from all my posts please?


Site policy prohibits such subsequent edits.  I hope you can live with
what you said. ;-)


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RE: Redaction Request

2010-03-03 Thread Jason Pyeron

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Hall (Cygwin)
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 19:36
 
 On 3/3/2010 7:20 PM, Ravila Helen White wrote:
  Dear Cygwin Team,
 
  I'm writing to find out if you can help me. How can I get my name 
  redacted from a post I made years ago. It continues to 
 pop-up as a top google hit.
  These days when co-workers or future employers see such 
 posts it can 
  reflect negatively on ones knowledge base.

Not sure how, the posts seemed fine. But did you consider the
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect ?

 
  I know you are busy, however any help you can provide is greatly 
  appreciated. I've provided the post in question. Can you 
 please redact 
  my name from all my posts please?
 
 Site policy prohibits such subsequent edits.  I hope you can 
 live with what you said. ;-)

The old posts probably, but his new #6-10 google hits?


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