Re: Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
Larry Hall (Cygwin cygwin.com> writes: > Well, right. There's no way to automatically map all 32-bit > packages to their 64-bit counterparts, particularly because there > isn't always a 64-bit package to map to. What I was suggesting was > a method you could use to make a first pass at the 64-bit packages > that you want to download. It won't be perfect but it would be a > quicker alternative to doing this all manually. But if 64-bit > packages are what you're looking for, you definitely have to go > through some process for this once. After that, you can employ the > same technique to replicate your 64-bit installation elsewhere. Adam Dinwoodie dinwoodie.org> writes: > I don't think there's any perfect solution to this problem -- as > noted there just isn't a perfect mapping between 32-bit and 64-bit > packages -- but it occurs to me that you could install the > cygcheck-dep package and call `cygcheck-dep -il`. That'll give you > a list of just the "leaves" in the tree of installed packages and > their dependencies, which may be a better starting point for what > packages you need to install on your new system, since you'll > automatically get all their dependencies. Larry, Adam, Thanks for the follow up. I don't want to match packages from the bottom up because some of them are automatically chosen based on dependencies. I ended up just going through manually choosing packages. Wasn't all that bad. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 06:17:32PM +, Paul.Domaskis wrote: > Understood, Larry. It's just that there are so many packages, and I > don't want to manually find all the matching packages. Before, if I > wanted to replicate a cygwin install on another machine, I just > reinstalled all my packages, but saved the packages to a folder that I > could write to disc. I can't do that if I want to replicate my > packages as 62-bit versions. I don't think there's any perfect solution to this problem -- as noted there just isn't a perfect mapping between 32-bit and 64-bit packages -- but it occurs to me that you could install the cygcheck-dep package and call `cygcheck-dep -il`. That'll give you a list of just the "leaves" in the tree of installed packages and their dependencies, which may be a better starting point for what packages you need to install on your new system, since you'll automatically get all their dependencies. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
On 08/22/2014 02:17 PM, Paul.Domaskis wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin cygwin.com> writes: On 08/18/2014 10:30 AM, Paul wrote: Andrey Repin yandex.ru> writes: When I wanted to replicate my cygwin installation from a 32-bit machine to another 32-bit machine, it was straightforward. I would simply reinstall all installed packages, but have the downloaded packages got to a folder which I then burn to CD. However, my next machine is a 64-bit machine. So I have to use the 64-bit setup. Is there an almost-as-painless way to replicate the 64-bit version of the packages that I have installed on my 32-bit machine? You contradicting yourself. 64-bit packages are entirely different files than 32-bit packages. Yes, I understand. I was referring to the 64-bit versions of my 32-bit packages. It took quite some period of discovery to determine my operational needs and the packages required. I'm hoping to avoid that re-experiencing that. You shouldn't have allot of trouble matching the 64-bit version of any package with the 32-bit version. Assuming there is a 64-bit version of the package you want, package names are typically very similar between the two architectures. Understood, Larry. It's just that there are so many packages, and I don't want to manually find all the matching packages. Before, if I wanted to replicate a cygwin install on another machine, I just reinstalled all my packages, but saved the packages to a folder that I could write to disc. I can't do that if I want to replicate my packages as 62-bit versions. Well, right. There's no way to automatically map all 32-bit packages to their 64-bit counterparts, particularly because there isn't always a 64-bit package to map to. What I was suggesting was a method you could use to make a first pass at the 64-bit packages that you want to download. It won't be perfect but it would be a quicker alternative to doing this all manually. But if 64-bit packages are what you're looking for, you definitely have to go through some process for this once. After that, you can employ the same technique to replicate your 64-bit installation elsewhere. -- Larry _ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
Larry Hall (Cygwin cygwin.com> writes: >On 08/18/2014 10:30 AM, Paul wrote: >>Andrey Repin yandex.ru> writes: >>> When I wanted to replicate my cygwin installation from a 32-bit >>> machine to another 32-bit machine, it was straightforward. I would >>> simply reinstall all installed packages, but have the downloaded >>> packages got to a folder which I then burn to CD. >>> >>> However, my next machine is a 64-bit machine. So I have to use the >>> 64-bit setup. Is there an almost-as-painless way to replicate the >>> 64-bit version of the packages that I have installed on my 32-bit >>> machine? >> >> You contradicting yourself. 64-bit packages are entirely different >> files than 32-bit packages. > Yes, I understand. I was referring to the 64-bit versions of my > 32-bit packages. It took quite some period of discovery to determine > my operational needs and the packages required. I'm hoping to avoid > that re-experiencing that. > > You shouldn't have allot of trouble matching the 64-bit version of any > package with the 32-bit version. Assuming there is a 64-bit version of > the package you want, package names are typically very similar between > the two architectures. Understood, Larry. It's just that there are so many packages, and I don't want to manually find all the matching packages. Before, if I wanted to replicate a cygwin install on another machine, I just reinstalled all my packages, but saved the packages to a folder that I could write to disc. I can't do that if I want to replicate my packages as 62-bit versions. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
On 08/18/2014 10:30 AM, Paul wrote: Andrey Repin yandex.ru> writes: >>When I wanted to replicate my cygwin installation from a 32-bit >>machine to another 32-bit machine, it was straightforward. I would >>simply reinstall all installed packages, but have the downloaded >>packages got to a folder which I then burn to CD. >> >>However, my next machine is a 64-bit machine. So I have to use the >>64-bit setup. Is there an almost-as-painless way to replicate the >>64-bit version of the packages that I have installed on my 32-bit >>machine? > >You contradicting yourself. 64-bit packages are entirely different >files than 32-bit packages. Yes, I understand. I was referring to the 64-bit versions of my 32-bit packages. It took quite some period of discovery to determine my operational needs and the packages required. I'm hoping to avoid that re-experiencing that. You shouldn't have allot of trouble matching the 64-bit version of any package with the 32-bit version. Assuming there is a 64-bit version of the package you want, package names are typically very similar between the two architectures. -- Larry _ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
Andrey Repin yandex.ru> writes: >> When I wanted to replicate my cygwin installation from a 32-bit >> machine to another 32-bit machine, it was straightforward. I would >> simply reinstall all installed packages, but have the downloaded >> packages got to a folder which I then burn to CD. >> >> However, my next machine is a 64-bit machine. So I have to use the >> 64-bit setup. Is there an almost-as-painless way to replicate the >> 64-bit version of the packages that I have installed on my 32-bit >> machine? > > You contradicting yourself. 64-bit packages are entirely different > files than 32-bit packages. Yes, I understand. I was referring to the 64-bit versions of my 32-bit packages. It took quite some period of discovery to determine my operational needs and the packages required. I'm hoping to avoid that re-experiencing that. > Your only option is to download all of them. One way or another. OK. > Also keep in mind that not all of packages are ported over to 64bit > yet. Worse comes to worse, I'll simply install my 32-bit packages. As I said, the method of replicating the subset of packages that I already have is straightforward. > If this may be an important factor in your decision to switch over > to 64-bit installation, you'd have to do some investigation first. > I.e. install 64-bit OS in virtual machine and try some things you > normally do in your daily use. I'm migrating to a new machine. I'll just try the 64-bit for real on the new machine. If it doesn't work out, I always have a disc of my subset of 32-bit packages. Thanks! -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
Eliot Moss cs.umass.edu> writes: > > On 8/17/2014 2:41 AM, paul wrote: > > When I wanted to replicate my cygwin installation from a 32-bit machine to > > another 32-bit machine, it was straightforward. I would simply reinstall > > all installed packages, but have the downloaded packages got to a folder > > which I then burn to CD. > > > > However, my next machine is a 64-bit machine. So I have to use the 64- bit > > setup. Is there an almost-as-painless way to replicate the 64-bit version > > of the packages that I have installed on my 32-bit machine? > > The 32-bit packages and set up run fine on a 64 bit processor. > You just don't get as large a memory space for the programs > when they are running. Yes, I was hoping to benefit from the 64-bit address space. But it took some trial and error to settle on the packages I wanted. Hoping I don't have to go through the same process again with the 64-bit packages. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
Greetings, paul! > When I wanted to replicate my cygwin installation from a 32-bit machine to > another 32-bit machine, it was straightforward. I would simply reinstall > all installed packages, but have the downloaded packages got to a folder > which I then burn to CD. > However, my next machine is a 64-bit machine. So I have to use the 64-bit > setup. Is there an almost-as-painless way to replicate the 64-bit version > of the packages that I have installed on my 32-bit machine? You contradicting yourself. 64-bit packages are entirely different files than 32-bit packages. Your only option is to download all of them. One way or another. Also keep in mind that not all of packages are ported over to 64bit yet. If this may be an important factor in your decision to switch over to 64-bit installation, you'd have to do some investigation first. I.e. install 64-bit OS in virtual machine and try some things you normally do in your daily use. -- WBR, Andrey Repin (anrdae...@yandex.ru) 18.08.2014, <04:22> Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
On 8/17/2014 2:41 AM, paul wrote: When I wanted to replicate my cygwin installation from a 32-bit machine to another 32-bit machine, it was straightforward. I would simply reinstall all installed packages, but have the downloaded packages got to a folder which I then burn to CD. However, my next machine is a 64-bit machine. So I have to use the 64-bit setup. Is there an almost-as-painless way to replicate the 64-bit version of the packages that I have installed on my 32-bit machine? The 32-bit packages and set up run fine on a 64 bit processor. You just don't get as large a memory space for the programs when they are running. Regards -- Eliot Moss -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Replicate packages from 32-bit machine on 64-bit machine
When I wanted to replicate my cygwin installation from a 32-bit machine to another 32-bit machine, it was straightforward. I would simply reinstall all installed packages, but have the downloaded packages got to a folder which I then burn to CD. However, my next machine is a 64-bit machine. So I have to use the 64-bit setup. Is there an almost-as-painless way to replicate the 64-bit version of the packages that I have installed on my 32-bit machine? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
