Re: Help with setting Cygwin's Emacs W32 TRAMP to WSL 1
On 2020-11-27, Eliot Moss wrote: > On 11/26/2020 3:38 PM, Oleksandr Gavenko via Cygwin wrote: > >> I believe that X server under Windows is only to write cool blog posts, that >> we are able to run "xterm" )) > > Not sure what you mean here. I run Cygwin's X server and run xterm/bash > windows and Emacs that way. On daily basis? Why not mintty and emacs-w32? Originally (2006-2012) I used native Windows Emacs + cygwin-mount.el. There were compatibility issues, most struggles came from Emacs dependency on external utilities to be fully functional (like search across files). Cygwin environment gave those utilities. Later in 2016 I had to work with Windows again and I discovered: https://cygwin.com/packages/summary/emacs-w32.html This package provides emacs binaries that use the native Windows GUI for display. Hooray! Good bye "cygwin-mount.el"! I maintain "e" command to open everything in Emacs: http://hg.defun.work/utils/file/tip/emacs It simplifies jump from Windows CLI to Cygwin Emacs. And recently Gradle 5.2 fixed escape sequence handling in Mintty, making it great again: https://docs.gradle.org/5.2/release-notes.html Gradle now detects when it is running from Mintty on Windows and enables the rich console. Mintty is a popular terminal emulator used by projects such as Cygwin and Git for Windows. > I was just indicating that (provided DISPLAY=:0.0 is set, as you pointed out) > WSL X apps play fine > with the Cygwin X server. > OK. No problem. I was surprised that you are using X Window from Cygwin for xterm + Emacs when there are stronger alternatives. At least you don't need to deal with env var DISPLAY. For "mintty" there is an issue with TERM=mintty which is not supported on most remote hosts. I fixed it in ~/.bashrc recently by: case $TERM in mintty*) alias ssh='TERM=xterm ssh' ;; esac Note that I need TERM=mintty for Gradle to work properly. With TERM=xterm Gradle sends unprocessible garbage to terminal... >> Thanks god Cygwin is able to mount WSL's roots via P9 network file system. > > Not sure what P9 is :-) .. > Here it is: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/whats-new-for-wsl-in-windows-10-version-1903/ >> PS. As you haven't CCed me I had to check GNUS + Gmane again. Haven't read >> news for 3 years, found out that Lars Ingebrigtsen fucked up with domain >> transfer. > > ?? When people post to Cygwin, I assume that are also subscribed and will > get a response from > there, and don't need _two_ emails. But I am sending this one both places. > I also have not read > net news in years - shouldn't be necessary if you're willing to receive > Cygwin notes by email. > I planned to read email archive week later to see responses as I didn't want to subscribe to any mail list. So: * I will know about responses a week later. * I wouldn't reply to any respond as I have to retrieve/inject Message-Id to maintain message chain. For this I used MarkMail WEB form or some other offer in the past but experience was confusing. As I understand it is not possible to specify me as additional recipient via headers To/Cc/Bcc/Replay-To if you are in a land of email lists. I remember some articles recommended to ask about inclusion of my email in addition to list address - the only solution we have (( Now that I found Gmane bridge working again (I had to alter Gmane connection endpoint to "news.gmane.io") at least I can reply without issues when not subscribed to the list! -- http://defun.work/ -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Help with setting Cygwin's Emacs W32 TRAMP to WSL 1
On 11/26/2020 3:38 PM, Oleksandr Gavenko via Cygwin wrote: I believe that X server under Windows is only to write cool blog posts, that we are able to run "xterm" )) Not sure what you mean here. I run Cygwin's X server and run xterm/bash windows and Emacs that way. I was just indicating that (provided DISPLAY=:0.0 is set, as you pointed out) WSL X apps play fine with the Cygwin X server. Thanks god Cygwin is able to mount WSL's roots via P9 network file system. Not sure what P9 is :-) .. PS. As you haven't CCed me I had to check GNUS + Gmane again. Haven't read news for 3 years, found out that Lars Ingebrigtsen fucked up with domain transfer. ?? When people post to Cygwin, I assume that are also subscribed and will get a response from there, and don't need _two_ emails. But I am sending this one both places. I also have not read net news in years - shouldn't be necessary if you're willing to receive Cygwin notes by email. Cheers - Eliot -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Help with setting Cygwin's Emacs W32 TRAMP to WSL 1
On 2020-11-26, Eliot Moss wrote: > Lacks UI? You can run X windows applications in WSL if you have the Cygwin X > server running :-) ... > then you get the X UI. I can certainly run xterm and emacs that way. > I don't need 2 Emacs instances around. Cygwin's Emacs W32 (with native W32 GUI widgets!) is the only my Emacs on Windows. I run Emacs server so a visited file list is kept in a one place... It is a part of my workflow (like quick switching to earlier visited files by fuzzy name matching/etc). And not to mention it is extra mental load to pass that DISPLAY=:0 or whatever around... I believe that X server under Windows is only to write cool blog posts, that we are able to run "xterm" )) Thanks god Cygwin is able to mount WSL's roots via P9 network file system. PS. As you haven't CCed me I had to check GNUS + Gmane again. Haven't read news for 3 years, found out that Lars Ingebrigtsen fucked up with domain transfer. -- http://defun.work/ -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Help with setting Cygwin's Emacs W32 TRAMP to WSL 1
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 9:22 PM Oleksandr Gavenko wrote: > So Emacs tries to make some "smart" locking on dumb FS... Need to > waste another few hours to make Emacs work. > Found the problem: Emacs fails on its "unlock-buffer" call from emacs/src/filelock.c. Feature described here: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/File-Locks.html To prevent of special symlink creation I disabled that feature: (setq create-lockfiles nil) So no need to waste time on TRAMP mode if it is supported natively by Cygwin! Thx to Henry for giving me the right spin! -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Help with setting Cygwin's Emacs W32 TRAMP to WSL 1
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 8:42 PM Henry S. Thompson wrote:
>
> Oleksandr Gavenko via Cygwin writes:
>
> > ...
> > WSL1 files are "hidden" for regular access.
>
> I probably misunderstand, but I can see my WSL/Ubuntu files via this
> path from Cygwin:
>
> /c/Users/ht/AppData/Local/Packages/CanonicalGroupLimited.../LocalState/rootfs
>
You are not allowed to edit them from the "Windows" process. Only from LXSS:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/do-not-change-linux-files-using-windows-apps-and-tools/
> DO NOT, under ANY circumstances, access, create, and/or modify Linux files
> inside
> of your `%LOCALAPPDATA%` folder using Windows apps, tools, scripts, consoles,
> etc.
You'll face:
https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/1524
changes made in Windows File System - not seen in Bash
Though I forgot about their announce of P9 fileserver (dated May 2019
Windows 10 version 1903):
> WSL hosts a new 9P fileserver, which exposes distro filesystems to Windows
> apps and tools via \\wsl$\\!
Details are here:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/whats-new-for-wsl-in-windows-10-version-1903/
I tried in elevated cmd:
cmd# cd \\wsl$\debian\
'\\wsl$\debian\'
CMD does not support UNC paths as current directories.
cmd# net use x: \\wsl$\debian\
System error 67 has occurred.
The network name cannot be found.
It is only available in Explorer and some "cool" editors, like Code.
I do not know if Cygwin allows to "mount" that P9 fileserver...
There is an example of network mounting:
https://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/mount.html
so I tried it:
bash# mount '//wsl$/debian' /mnt
mount: defaulting to 'notexec' mount option for speed since native path
references a remote share. Use '-f' option to override.
bash# ls /mnt
ls: cannot access '/mnt/initrd.img': Input/output error
ls: cannot access '/mnt/initrd.img.old': Input/output error
ls: cannot access '/mnt/vmlinuz': Input/output error
ls: cannot access '/mnt/vmlinuz.old': Input/output error
bin boot c d dev etc home init initrd.img initrd.img.old lib
lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr
var vmlinuz vmlinuz.old
Cool! Let's make it permanent.
$ cat /etc/fstab
//wsl$/debian /wsl/debian ntfs binary,noacl,posix=0 0 0
//wsl$/ubuntu /wsl/ubuntu ntfs binary,noacl,posix=0 0 0
//wsl$/alpine /wsl/alpine ntfs binary,noacl,posix=0 0 0
$ mkdir -p /wsl/{ubuntu,debian,alpine}
$ mount /wsl/debian
$ mount /wsl/ubuntu
$ mount /wsl/wsl
And the final step it testing with Cygwin's Emacs W32:
I can read files, but on save I've got:
Saving file /wsl/debian/opt/sa-batch-am-dbsync/run.env...
basic-save-buffer-2: Unlocking file: Invalid argument,
/wsl/debian/opt/sa-batch-am-dbsync/run.env
Trying in Cygwin's bash:
bash# cd /wsl/debian/home/user/
bash# touch test.txt
bash# ls -l test.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 user user 0 2020-11-26 21:18 test.txt
bash# echo 123 >test.txt
bash# echo 456 >>test.txt
bash# cat test.txt
123
456
So Emacs tries to make some "smart" locking on dumb FS... Need to
waste another few hours to make Emacs work.
At least I have something!
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Re: Help with setting Cygwin's Emacs W32 TRAMP to WSL 1
Oleksandr Gavenko via Cygwin writes: > ... > WSL1 files are "hidden" for regular access. I probably misunderstand, but I can see my WSL/Ubuntu files via this path from Cygwin: /c/Users/ht/AppData/Local/Packages/CanonicalGroupLimited.../LocalState/rootfs ht -- Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: h...@inf.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail from me _always_ has a .sig like this -- mail without it is forged spam] The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Help with setting Cygwin's Emacs W32 TRAMP to WSL 1
On 11/26/2020 10:18 AM, Oleksandr Gavenko via Cygwin wrote: > Still WSL 1 lacks UI and integrates less smoothly into my workflow > to replace Cygwin's amazing Emacs W32. Lacks UI? You can run X windows applications in WSL if you have the Cygwin X server running :-) ... then you get the X UI. I can certainly run xterm and emacs that way. Maybe I am misunderstanding you? Best wishes - Eliot Moss -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Help with setting Cygwin's Emacs W32 TRAMP to WSL 1
I'm using Cygwin for two reasons: mintty + Emacs w32.
Nowadays WSL 1 has become important (vendors provide ready to work
.deb packages,
I use: Ansible + Google Cloud SDK, if name any).
Still WSL 1 lacks UI and integrates less smoothly into my workflow
to replace Cygwin's amazing Emacs W32.
WSL1 files are "hidden" for regular access.
Emacs has TRAMP mode to access foreign environments:
https://www.gnu.org/software/tramp/
I tried to define configuration that should have allowed to access WSL 1
from Cygwin's Emacs via "wsl sh" jump (the way TRAMP support "su" &
"sudo" jumps):
*
https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/jrkgmy/tramp_for_wsl_1_from_cygwin_emacsw32/
* https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/6236
- wsl.exe periodically sends control characters making impossible "piping"
via interactive/terminal mode
The problem is that when Cygwin's Emacs invokes "wsl.exe" conhost or
wsl?? thinks
it is in a PTY mode and sends different "clearing" terminal escape
sequences (see WSL issue report).
I reproduce garbage with Elisp code:
(setq xxx (make-process :name "xxx" :buffer "xxx" :command '("wsl"
"echo" "OK") :connection-type 'pty))
(stop-process xxx)
Note that changing the last argument "pty" => "pipe" solves the problem,
but things are a bit complicated...
TRAMP mode has been implemented via call to "sh" by internal API "make-process".
And then TRAMP sends "wsl ..." to the shell so WSL thinks it is in
PTY and I have no way
to influence that decision ((
I tried stupid tricks like passing everything related to "ws.exe" via
pipe to "cat":
(with-eval-after-load 'tramp
(setf (alist-get "wsl" tramp-methods nil nil #'equal)
'((tramp-login-program "sh")
(tramp-login-args (("-c") ("wsl") ("-u" "%u") ("-d" "%h")
("|" "cat")))
(tramp-remote-shell "/bin/sh")
(tramp-remote-shell-login ("-l"))
(tramp-remote-shell-args ("-c"))
(tramp-connection-timeout 10)
(tramp-session-timeout 300
or define a wrapper script that has "wsl ... | cat" inside. Nothing helped.
Few experiments with Cygwin's Expect also failed as I forgot
everything about that obscure tech...
So I need to write some wrapper that will bidirectionally pipe to "wsl.exe"
putting wsl into piped instead TTY mode.
It can be that there is a ready solution.
If not please advise which API should I use to write such a wrapper.
Should it be Cygwin's pipe/dup2/fork/execvp or popen?
Or should it be Windows native CreateChildProcess / WriteToPipe /
ReadFromPipe as here:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/procthread/creating-a-child-process-with-redirected-input-and-output
Please CC me in replies, I'll check the mail archive after a week to
not lose any responses.
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Where is LEIM for cygwin's emacs 21.2?
Very rarely I need to type one or two japanese characters in my emacs, and I recall that I did it with LEIM and set-input-method quite easily. However, in my current installation, emacs says that LEIM isn't installed. The cygwin installer says: LEIM is part of emacs package now. The directory where LEIM used to be, /usr/share/21.2/leim/, exists but is empty, both on my machine and on http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=emacs%2Femacs-21.2-12. There's no LEIM at all in http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=emacs-el%2Femacs-el-21.2-12 but the title says (including LEIM). As a workaround, I fetched emacs-leim from the web, extracted the tar.bz2 and symlinked the contents to /usr/share/21.2/leim. Now set-input-method works as expected. But I doubt that this is how it ought to be. * Is there something wrong with my installation (old installation, carried over from another machine)? * Did I miss to install / re-install an emacs package? * Is it a packaging error with cygwin's emacs-el 21.2 package? * Would a switch to emacs and emacs-el 23.0.92 be the recommended solution (emacs-el 23.0.92 apparently contains LEIM)? -- Cheers, haj -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Where is LEIM for cygwin's emacs 21.2?
On 8/5/2009 4:16 AM, Harald Joerg wrote: Very rarely I need to type one or two japanese characters in my emacs, and I recall that I did it with LEIM and set-input-method quite easily. However, in my current installation, emacs says that LEIM isn't installed. The cygwin installer says: LEIM is part of emacs package now. The directory where LEIM used to be, /usr/share/21.2/leim/, exists but is empty, both on my machine and on http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=emacs%2Femacs-21.2-12. There's no LEIM at all in http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=emacs-el%2Femacs-el-21.2-12 but the title says (including LEIM). As a workaround, I fetched emacs-leim from the web, extracted the tar.bz2 and symlinked the contents to /usr/share/21.2/leim. Now set-input-method works as expected. But I doubt that this is how it ought to be. * Is there something wrong with my installation (old installation, carried over from another machine)? No. There was confusion a couple of years ago when it looked like emacs was going to be updated to version 22.1 (which did include leim). At that point emacs-leim was declared obsolete. Unfortunately, the emacs-22.1 build turned out to be unstable, but emacs-leim was never reinstated. * Would a switch to emacs and emacs-el 23.0.92 be the recommended solution (emacs-el 23.0.92 apparently contains LEIM)? Yes. BTW, emacs-el is irrelevant; it just contains the library source files (*.el). The byte-compiled libraries (*.elc), including leim, are in the emacs package. Ken -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Thanks (was: Re: Where is LEIM for cygwin's emacs 21.2?)
Ken Brown kbr...@cornell.edu writes: On 8/5/2009 4:16 AM, Harald Joerg wrote: Very rarely I need to type one or two japanese characters in my emacs, and I recall that I did it with LEIM and set-input-method quite easily. However, in my current installation, emacs says that LEIM isn't installed. [...] As a workaround, I fetched emacs-leim from the web, extracted the tar.bz2 and symlinked the contents to /usr/share/21.2/leim. Now set-input-method works as expected. But I doubt that this is how it ought to be. * Is there something wrong with my installation (old installation, carried over from another machine)? No. There was confusion a couple of years ago when it looked like emacs was going to be updated to version 22.1 (which did include leim). At that point emacs-leim was declared obsolete. Unfortunately, the emacs-22.1 build turned out to be unstable, but emacs-leim was never reinstated. * Would a switch to emacs and emacs-el 23.0.92 be the recommended solution (emacs-el 23.0.92 apparently contains LEIM)? Yes. BTW, emacs-el is irrelevant; it just contains the library source files (*.el). The byte-compiled libraries (*.elc), including leim, are in the emacs package. Excellent! Many thanks for your clarfications, on both emacs-leim and cygwin's emacs-el package. I have just installed emacs 23.0.92 from setup.exe's experimental branch and Japanese characters work like charm. As an additional bonus I found that Emacs is able to save Japanese characters as Unicode which makes interoperation with other programs much easier. Excellent! All I had to do after the upgrade was to *remove* my private installation of gnus 5.10.6. It was outdated, didn't work with Emacs23, and is not necessary since a perfectly working Gnus v5.13 comes bundled with cygwin's emacs 23.0.92. Wonderful! -- Cheers, haj -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
cygwin's emacs doesn't like windows drive names in paths
It appears that that cygwin's version of emacs can't deal with windows drive names (e.g. c:/) for example when I try to open a file. Xemacs does not seem to have a problem with them, however. Is there a plan to fix cygwin's emacs, so that it can deal with these paths? Alternatively has someone written the reverse of cygwin-mount.el such that windows paths will be translated to cygwin paths? Thanks for your help. John Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: cygwin's emacs
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:46:47PM -0500, George Hester wrote: I go into emacs easy enough. I start cygwin and type emacs and there I am in emacs. The directions say to exit type C-x C-c where C is the control key. I am assuming that is the left control key. So I hold down the left control key and type x. I get a C-x in the lower bottom of the window. I then try C-c which is holding down the left control key and hitting the c key. Nothing. Justy a ding. In fact I casnnot exit from emacs at all. Does anyone have a way of exiting from emacs which works? Thanks. Either set the environment variable CYGWIN=tty prior to running any cygwin program or run emacs under rxvt. CTRL-C is not remappable in the normal cygwin console due to windows constraints. 2 more options: 1. Run emacs under the X-Windows server. 2. Use M-x kill-emacs, which is either: a. Hit the key ALT-x, then type kill-emacs, then hit the key ENTER. b. Hit the key ESCAPE, then hit the key x, then type kill-emacs, then hit the key ENTER. -Richard Campbell. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygwin's emacs
OK someone sent me a FAQ which did do the trick. In the cygwin.bat file in C:\cygwin I entered this before the call to the bash shell: Set CYGWIN=tty notitle glob Are there any gotchas here? tty seems amenable enough as does notitle. But the one that has me worried is glob. I don't want my cygwin globbing anything into Not Working if I can help it. Thanks. George Hester __ Christopher Faylor wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:46:47PM -0500, George Hester wrote: I go into emacs easy enough. I start cygwin and type emacs and there I am in emacs. The directions say to exit type C-x C-c where C is the control key. I am assuming that is the left control key. So I hold down the left control key and type x. I get a C-x in the lower bottom of the window. I then try C-c which is holding down the left control key and hitting the c key. Nothing. Justy a ding. In fact I casnnot exit from emacs at all. Does anyone have a way of exiting from emacs which works? Thanks. Either set the environment variable CYGWIN=tty prior to running any cygwin program or run emacs under rxvt. CTRL-C is not remappable in the normal cygwin console due to windows constraints. -- Please use the resources at cygwin.com rather than sending personal email. Special for spam email harvesters: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and be permanently blocked from mailing lists at sources.redhat.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
cygwin's emacs
I go into emacs easy enough. I start cygwin and type emacs and there I am in emacs. The directions say to exit type C-x C-c where C is the control key. I am assuming that is the left control key. So I hold down the left control key and type x. I get a C-x in the lower bottom of the window. I then try C-c which is holding down the left control key and hitting the c key. Nothing. Justy a ding. In fact I casnnot exit from emacs at all. Does anyone have a way of exiting from emacs which works? Thanks. George Hester __ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: cygwin's emacs
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:46:47PM -0500, George Hester wrote: I go into emacs easy enough. I start cygwin and type emacs and there I am in emacs. The directions say to exit type C-x C-c where C is the control key. I am assuming that is the left control key. So I hold down the left control key and type x. I get a C-x in the lower bottom of the window. I then try C-c which is holding down the left control key and hitting the c key. Nothing. Justy a ding. In fact I casnnot exit from emacs at all. Does anyone have a way of exiting from emacs which works? Thanks. Either set the environment variable CYGWIN=tty prior to running any cygwin program or run emacs under rxvt. CTRL-C is not remappable in the normal cygwin console due to windows constraints. -- Please use the resources at cygwin.com rather than sending personal email. Special for spam email harvesters: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and be permanently blocked from mailing lists at sources.redhat.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
