problems with installing cygwin on windows 7

2013-05-03 Thread Piotr Cieplak
Could anyone help me with this problem? 
I posted this couple of days ago, but so far there is no response.
When installing cygwin using default option - everything goes well. On the 
other hand
when trying to install:  everything (install option) or  some parts of the 
cygwin package
the setup.exe runs for ever and could not complete successfully within 3-5 
hours. So I stopped
it manually.
I tried to do that using various download sites and it does not help.
I am trying to install cygwin as a first package on freshly installed windows 7.

Is anyone experiencing similar problems? What the remedy could be?
Thanks in advance

Piotr



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Re: problems with installing cygwin on windows 7

2013-05-03 Thread 1xx
Hi Piotr !

2013/5/3 Piotr Cieplak piotr_ciep...@yahoo.com:
 Could anyone help me with this problem?
 I posted this couple of days ago, but so far there is no response.
 When installing cygwin using default option - everything goes well. On the 
 other hand
 when trying to install:  everything (install option) or  some parts of the 
 cygwin package
 the setup.exe runs for ever and could not complete successfully within 3-5 
 hours. So I stopped
 it manually.
 I tried to do that using various download sites and it does not help.
 I am trying to install cygwin as a first package on freshly installed windows 
 7.

 Is anyone experiencing similar problems? What the remedy could be?
 Thanks in advance

I was able to install Cygwin into the following PCs on 2013-03-2x .
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86335040/openSUSE/DxDiag13.txt
I have remembered that setup.exe required install of Bonjour.

Then, I installed Safari previously.


Although it is right or cannot judge to me, since it may become helpful, I tell.

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Re: problems with installing cygwin on windows 7

2013-05-03 Thread Csaba Raduly
Hi Piotr,

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Piotr Cieplak  wrote:
 Could anyone help me with this problem?
 I posted this couple of days ago, but so far there is no response.
 When installing cygwin using default option - everything goes well. On the 
 other hand
 when trying to install:  everything (install option) or  some parts of the 
 cygwin package
 the setup.exe runs for ever and could not complete successfully within 3-5 
 hours.
(snip)
 Is anyone experiencing similar problems? What the remedy could be?

Don't do it :)

For setup.exe to to install everything it has to download everything,
checksum everything, unpack everything, install everything, rebase
everything. This takes time, regardless of which mirror you use.

Why do you want to install everything? I doubt there is a single
person on Earth who has used every single Cygwin program.

Csaba
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Re: problems with installing cygwin on windows 7

2013-05-03 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:44:19AM +0200, Csaba Raduly wrote:
Hi Piotr,

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Piotr Cieplak  wrote:
 Could anyone help me with this problem?
 I posted this couple of days ago, but so far there is no response.
 When installing cygwin using default option - everything goes well. On the 
 other hand
 when trying to install:  everything (install option) or  some parts of the 
 cygwin package
 the setup.exe runs for ever and could not complete successfully within 3-5 
 hours.
(snip)
 Is anyone experiencing similar problems? What the remedy could be?

Don't do it :)

For setup.exe to to install everything it has to download everything,
checksum everything, unpack everything, install everything, rebase
everything. This takes time, regardless of which mirror you use.

Why do you want to install everything? I doubt there is a single
person on Earth who has used every single Cygwin program.

But, if they did, I'd give them a gold star for their efforts.

cgf

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Re: problems with installing cygwin on windows 7

2013-05-03 Thread Ryan Johnson

On 03/05/2013 11:48 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:44:19AM +0200, Csaba Raduly wrote:

Hi Piotr,

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Piotr Cieplak  wrote:

Could anyone help me with this problem?
I posted this couple of days ago, but so far there is no response.
When installing cygwin using default option - everything goes well. On the 
other hand
when trying to install:  everything (install option) or  some parts of the 
cygwin package
the setup.exe runs for ever and could not complete successfully within 3-5 
hours.

(snip)

Is anyone experiencing similar problems? What the remedy could be?

Don't do it :)

For setup.exe to to install everything it has to download everything,
checksum everything, unpack everything, install everything, rebase
everything. This takes time, regardless of which mirror you use.

Why do you want to install everything? I doubt there is a single
person on Earth who has used every single Cygwin program.

But, if they did, I'd give them a gold star for their efforts.

Define use ...

for f in /usr/bin/*.exe; do $f --help; done

:)

Ryan


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Re: problems with installing cygwin on windows 7

2013-05-03 Thread Alan Thompson
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Piotr Cieplak piotr_ciep...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Could anyone help me with this problem?
 I posted this couple of days ago, but so far there is no response.
 When installing cygwin using default option - everything goes well. On the 
 other hand
 when trying to install:  everything (install option) or  some parts of the 
 cygwin package
 the setup.exe runs for ever and could not complete successfully within 3-5 
 hours. So I stopped
 it manually.
 I tried to do that using various download sites and it does not help.
 I am trying to install cygwin as a first package on freshly installed windows 
 7.

 Is anyone experiencing similar problems? What the remedy could be?
 Thanks in advance

 Piotr


Hi Piotr,

I have installed  reinstalled Cygwin recently (and over the past 12
years).  If you got the default version of Cygwin to install
correctly, there is no problem with your computer, etc.  A full
install might take 12 hours, so be patient.  Also, I have found that
the kernel.org mirror is much faster than the anl.gov mirror I had
previously used.

A faster option might to use 2-3 steps:

1.  Do a full download and save but don't install.

2.  Do a basic (default) install from the saved files.  This helps to
verify that the download worked without any glitches (the connection
from the mirror through the internet, your ISP, the Setup.exe program
and your computer aren't perfect...sometimes things get garbled).

3. Do a few quick tests to see that the basic install worked (open a
shell window and run ls -l, etc).  Assuming that works, re-run
Setup.exe and select a few more individual packages for a full
install (maybe compilers, editors, etc).  Even with just a few things,
the postinstall scripts can still take a couple of hours to finish
things off, so be prepared and don't kill them before they're
finished.  Repeat as necessary until everything you actually use is
installed.

If something goes wrong, you still have the saved download and don't
need to repeat step #1.  Just delete the c:/cygwin dir and start over
at step 2.

Enjoy!  And thank you once again to the entire Cygwin team for helping
those of us who are still stuck interacting with Windoze.   ;)

Alan Thompson

P.S.  I have had to run rebaseall each time I do an install or
upgrade over the past year.not sure why as this never used to be a
problem.  Please see:  http://cygwin.wikia.com/wiki/Rebaseall It
is only a 5 minute process once you have the correct instructions.

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Re: problems with installing cygwin on windows 7

2013-05-03 Thread Ryan Johnson

On 03/05/2013 2:28 PM, Alan Thompson wrote:
P.S. I have had to run rebaseall each time I do an install or 
upgrade over the past year.not sure why as this never used to be a 
problem. 
That's very strange, because setup.exe started running rebaseall 
automatically just over a year ago [1].


You shouldn't need to run rebaseall these days unless you compile your 
own .dlls and want them to play nice with the rest of the system.


Please see: http://cygwin.wikia.com/wiki/Rebaseall It is only a 5 
minute process once you have the correct instructions.

Where correct means accurate and up to date?***

Please don't use those instructions, even if they are a the very top of 
the Google listing for cygwin setup rebaseall.


First, rebaseall runs automatically as part of setup for over a year now 
[1]. Second, rebooting into safe mode to stop cygwin services borders on 
downright silly. Third, you don't need to be Administrator to run rebase 
unless you messed with file permissions in really weird ways. Fourth, 
somebody *is* working on a 64-bit port of cygwin; it mostly works at 
this point, and somebody posted about using it just today in fact [2].


[1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2012-03/msg00060.html
[2] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2013-05/msg00055.html

*** but then again, the official documentation at 
/usr/share/doc/rebase/README still says:

Note that rebaseall is only a stop-gap measure.  Eventually the rebase
functionality will be added to Cygwin's setup.exe, so that rebasing will
happen automatically.
... but at least it doesn't tell you to reboot into safe mode as part of 
using Cygwin.


Ryan

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Re: problems with installing cygwin on windows 7

2013-05-03 Thread Alan Thompson
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Ryan Johnson
ryan.john...@cs.utoronto.ca wrote:

 On 03/05/2013 2:28 PM, Alan Thompson wrote:

 P.S. I have had to run rebaseall each time I do an install or upgrade over 
 the past year.not sure why as this never used to be a problem.

 That's very strange, because setup.exe started running rebaseall 
 automatically just over a year ago [1].

 You shouldn't need to run rebaseall these days unless you compile your own 
 .dlls and want them to play nice with the rest of the system.
 snip


 ... but at least it doesn't tell you to reboot into safe mode as part of 
 using Cygwin.


I did not boot into safe mode - just a plain reboot as a safety
precaution.  I then just opened up a regular Windoze cmd.exe window
and typed the commands using the dash shell.

I cannot explain why I have suddenly needed to run rebaseall to keep
Cygwin working, especially since I had thougt that setup.exe handled
everything as you state.  Last month the corp. IT dept did a windows
update and Cygwin quite working.  I did a Cygwin reinstall but got the
error message (can't remember specifically now) indicating a rebaseall
was needed.  Rediscovered the rebaseall documentation via google and
printed it out to keep at my desk.  Fortunately, the simple rebaseall
command got the Cygwin installation back up and working smoothly in
just a few minutes.

Alan Thompson

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Ryan Johnson
ryan.john...@cs.utoronto.ca wrote:
 On 03/05/2013 2:28 PM, Alan Thompson wrote:

 P.S. I have had to run rebaseall each time I do an install or upgrade
 over the past year.not sure why as this never used to be a problem.

 That's very strange, because setup.exe started running rebaseall
 automatically just over a year ago [1].

 You shouldn't need to run rebaseall these days unless you compile your own
 .dlls and want them to play nice with the rest of the system.


 Please see: http://cygwin.wikia.com/wiki/Rebaseall It is only a 5 minute
 process once you have the correct instructions.

 Where correct means accurate and up to date?***

 Please don't use those instructions, even if they are a the very top of the
 Google listing for cygwin setup rebaseall.

 First, rebaseall runs automatically as part of setup for over a year now
 [1]. Second, rebooting into safe mode to stop cygwin services borders on
 downright silly. Third, you don't need to be Administrator to run rebase
 unless you messed with file permissions in really weird ways. Fourth,
 somebody *is* working on a 64-bit port of cygwin; it mostly works at this
 point, and somebody posted about using it just today in fact [2].

 [1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2012-03/msg00060.html
 [2] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2013-05/msg00055.html

 *** but then again, the official documentation at
 /usr/share/doc/rebase/README still says:

 Note that rebaseall is only a stop-gap measure.  Eventually the rebase
 functionality will be added to Cygwin's setup.exe, so that rebasing will
 happen automatically.

 ... but at least it doesn't tell you to reboot into safe mode as part of
 using Cygwin.

 Ryan


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