Re: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov  8 18:13, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Christopher Faylor wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 01:52:20PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
  IMO, these packages should be in a special new category (I propose the
  name @Profiles to make setup put this at the top, but I don't know if
  setup will parse this correctly).  I've attached a few sample profile
  packages for commonly requested configurations with the corresponding
  setup.hints.  We could probably concentrate them all in one directory
  (thus the '@ ...' lines at the top of the hint files).  All the .tar.bz2
  files are the same empty tarball -- it's the setup.hints that are
  important.
  
  Comments and other suggestions welcome.  Note that the attached packages
  are an initial cut at defining those profiles -- I'm bound to have missed
  something.  Also, I'm not proposing to maintain *all* of the profiles,
  though I could maintain the ones I've attached, as there isn't too much
  work involved.
 
  Assuming that Corinna agrees, I'm willing to put these in a directory in
  release.

I like the idea.

  I'd like to get some consensus on the name Profiles, though.  Is that
  adequately intuitive?
 
 That's one of the things I wanted suggestions on.

The main problem is to get the user to notice that this is something
special.  I had a long hard look into the chooser window and it's
not only that this meta category should come first, it should also
be an eye catcher by its own, IMHO.

Therefore I'd like to propose an all uppercase name for this category.

  DEFAULT-PROFILES
  USER-PROFILES


Corinna

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Re: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread John Morrison
On Wed, November 9, 2005 9:31 am, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 On Nov  8 18:13, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Christopher Faylor wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 01:52:20PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
  IMO, these packages should be in a special new category (I propose
 the
  name @Profiles to make setup put this at the top, but I don't know
 if
  setup will parse this correctly).  I've attached a few sample profile
  packages for commonly requested configurations with the corresponding
  setup.hints.  We could probably concentrate them all in one directory
  (thus the '@ ...' lines at the top of the hint files).  All the
 .tar.bz2
  files are the same empty tarball -- it's the setup.hints that are
  important.
  
  Comments and other suggestions welcome.  Note that the attached
 packages
  are an initial cut at defining those profiles -- I'm bound to have
 missed
  something.  Also, I'm not proposing to maintain *all* of the
 profiles,
  though I could maintain the ones I've attached, as there isn't too
 much
  work involved.
 
  Assuming that Corinna agrees, I'm willing to put these in a directory
 in
  release.

 I like the idea.

  I'd like to get some consensus on the name Profiles, though.  Is
 that
  adequately intuitive?

 That's one of the things I wanted suggestions on.

 The main problem is to get the user to notice that this is something
 special.  I had a long hard look into the chooser window and it's
 not only that this meta category should come first, it should also
 be an eye catcher by its own, IMHO.

 Therefore I'd like to propose an all uppercase name for this category.

   DEFAULT-PROFILES
   USER-PROFILES

+1 on the caps...

How about

FUNCTIONAL-[GROUPS|PROFILES]
USEFUL-[GROUPS|PROFILES]
PRESELECTED-[GROUPS|PROFILES|PACKAGES]

?

J.



Please upload: run-1.1.6-1

2005-11-09 Thread Alexander Gottwald
wget http://www.freedesktop.org/~ago/cygwin/run/run-1.1.6-1.tar.bz2;
wget http://www.freedesktop.org/~ago/cygwin/run/run-1.1.6-1-src.tar.bz2;

Changes: 
Order of icons fixed to match index used in x-start-menu-icons 
added man page



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Re: Please upload: run-1.1.6-1

2005-11-09 Thread Eric Blake
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According to Alexander Gottwald on 11/9/2005 6:07 AM:
 wget http://www.freedesktop.org/~ago/cygwin/run/run-1.1.6-1.tar.bz2;
 wget http://www.freedesktop.org/~ago/cygwin/run/run-1.1.6-1-src.tar.bz2;

Uploaded.  I left 1.1.5-2 as previous.

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Re: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

 On Nov  8 18:13, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
  On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Christopher Faylor wrote:
   On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 01:52:20PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
   IMO, these packages should be in a special new category (I propose the
   name @Profiles to make setup put this at the top, but I don't know if
   setup will parse this correctly).  I've attached a few sample profile
   packages for commonly requested configurations with the corresponding
   setup.hints.  We could probably concentrate them all in one directory
   (thus the '@ ...' lines at the top of the hint files).  All the .tar.bz2
   files are the same empty tarball -- it's the setup.hints that are
   important.
   
   Comments and other suggestions welcome.  Note that the attached packages
   are an initial cut at defining those profiles -- I'm bound to have missed
   something.  Also, I'm not proposing to maintain *all* of the profiles,
   though I could maintain the ones I've attached, as there isn't too much
   work involved.
  
   Assuming that Corinna agrees, I'm willing to put these in a directory in
   release.

 I like the idea.

   I'd like to get some consensus on the name Profiles, though.  Is that
   adequately intuitive?
 
  That's one of the things I wanted suggestions on.

 The main problem is to get the user to notice that this is something
 special.  I had a long hard look into the chooser window and it's
 not only that this meta category should come first, it should also
 be an eye catcher by its own, IMHO.

 Therefore I'd like to propose an all uppercase name for this category.

   DEFAULT-PROFILES
   USER-PROFILES

We'll need to put a space or an '@' at the beginning to ensure sort order,
but otherwise I like the ALL-CAPS idea (in fact, the packages also ought
to be ALL-CAPS, maybe with dashes in the category and the underscores in
packages, or vice versa).
Igor
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Re: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov  9 09:35, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
  The main problem is to get the user to notice that this is something
  special.  I had a long hard look into the chooser window and it's
  not only that this meta category should come first, it should also
  be an eye catcher by its own, IMHO.
 
  Therefore I'd like to propose an all uppercase name for this category.
 
DEFAULT-PROFILES
USER-PROFILES
 
 We'll need to put a space or an '@' at the beginning to ensure sort order,

What about a leading dot?


Corinna

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Re: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 01:52:20PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
IMO, these packages should be in a special new category (I propose the
name @Profiles to make setup put this at the top, but I don't know if
setup will parse this correctly).

I also think it's time for this, and propose that whatever naming scheme is
agreed upon, setup.exe should have a chooser view that only shows
these (that view should probably be the default one, too).


Re: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov  9 07:56, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 01:52:20PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
 IMO, these packages should be in a special new category (I propose 
 the
 name @Profiles to make setup put this at the top, but I don't know 
 if
 setup will parse this correctly).
 
 I also think it's time for this, and propose that whatever naming scheme is
 agreed upon, setup.exe should have a chooser view that only shows
 these (that view should probably be the default one, too).

I would be careful with this.  The package selection groups are only
really useful on the first install.  Later calls to setup for updating
or installing more packages are usually better off with the current
view.

Which reminds me... isn't there a way that setup could store the latest
view of the chooser window the user has selected?  For instance, in
almost all cases I'd like to see the Partial view, not the Category
view.  Can storing the last view be added easily?


Corinna

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Re: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

 On Nov  9 09:35, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
  On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
   The main problem is to get the user to notice that this is something
   special.  I had a long hard look into the chooser window and it's
   not only that this meta category should come first, it should also
   be an eye catcher by its own, IMHO.
  
   Therefore I'd like to propose an all uppercase name for this category.
  
 DEFAULT-PROFILES
 USER-PROFILES
 
  We'll need to put a space or an '@' at the beginning to ensure sort order,

 What about a leading dot?

Yep, looking at the lexer, a leading dot should work (without quoting).
And I like it better than an '@' or a space...
Igor
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RE: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen
on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:11 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Hmm, outlook quotefix is better than nothing, but optimal)

SNIP
 Therefore I'd like to propose an all uppercase name for this
 category.

   DEFAULT-PROFILES
 Hmm... default has little to do with packages imho, or?

   USER-PROFILES
 USER indicates something personal... :-p

John Morison wrote: (manual fix)
 +1 on the caps...

 How about

 FUNCTIONAL-[GROUPS|PROFILES]
 USEFUL-[GROUPS|PROFILES]
 PRESELECTED-[GROUPS|PROFILES|PACKAGES]

More wording ideas: SELECTION, CHOICE, PRESET, ORIENTATION

predefined package choice ?
Cygwin_use-orientation-presets?
Cygwin-use-presets ?
... with better wording.


AFTERTHOUGHT: The commandline automatic install possibilities need to be
considered before adding GUI-stuff.

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RE: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote:

 on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:11 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Therefore I'd like to propose an all uppercase name for this
  category.
 
DEFAULT-PROFILES
  Hmm... default has little to do with packages imho, or?

USER-PROFILES
  USER indicates something personal... :-p

 John Morison wrote: (manual fix)
  +1 on the caps...
 
  How about
 
  FUNCTIONAL-[GROUPS|PROFILES]
  USEFUL-[GROUPS|PROFILES]
  PRESELECTED-[GROUPS|PROFILES|PACKAGES]

 More wording ideas: SELECTION, CHOICE, PRESET, ORIENTATION

 predefined package choice ?
 Cygwin_use-orientation-presets?
 Cygwin-use-presets ?
 ... with better wording.

How about just .INSTALLATION-PROFILES?  Why have more than one category
here?

 AFTERTHOUGHT: The commandline automatic install possibilities need to be
 considered before adding GUI-stuff.

Adding GUI-stuff is easy.  Decoupling installation from GUI to allow
command line automatic install is hard.
Igor
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postgresql-8.0.4-1 and 8.1.0-1 ready to upload

2005-11-09 Thread Reini Urban

All suggestions from the previous threads are in:
  --dep cygserver --termsig INT

[curr]
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/publ/cygwin/release/postgresql/postgresql-8.0.4-1.tar.bz2
  6626006 38290bb1caad7720bb558126d26fb5ce
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/publ/cygwin/release/postgresql/postgresql-8.0.4-1-src.tar.bz2
  10954952 697f4861e3660896e587c103423b155d

[test]
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/publ/cygwin/release/postgresql/postgresql-8.1.0-1.tar.bz2
  6846969 400b08d6dd7bd02ebcb7991ab365013c
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/publ/cygwin/release/postgresql/postgresql-8.1.0-1-src.tar.bz2
  11403559 eb4807dbb3eb72ddabc5b662bc2dbb6e

http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/publ/cygwin/release/postgresql/setup.hint

8.0.0cvs-1 and 7.4.3-1 can be deleted.

This server is very slow, my old replacement for the still broken
big machine. I usually need an overnight rsync loop to get them up 
successfully.


And wonder if we really need 8.0 as curr, since 8.1 is e.g. much better 
in GiST locking, concurrency, crash-safe, esp. needed for tsearch2 and 
PostGIS, and the PGDATA's are incompatible, making upgrades a major pain.


http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/release.html#RELEASE-8-1
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/release-8-0-4.html
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Please upload: boost-1.33.0-2

2005-11-09 Thread Václav Haisman
Packages:
http://logout.sh.cvut.cz/~wilx/cygwin-boost/boost-1.33.0-2-src.tar.bz2
http://logout.sh.cvut.cz/~wilx/cygwin-boost/boost-1.33.0-2.tar.bz2
http://logout.sh.cvut.cz/~wilx/cygwin-boost/boost-devel-1.33.0-2.tar.bz2

Signatures:
http://logout.sh.cvut.cz/~wilx/cygwin-boost/boost-1.33.0-2-src.tar.bz2.asc
http://logout.sh.cvut.cz/~wilx/cygwin-boost/boost-1.33.0-2.tar.bz2.asc
http://logout.sh.cvut.cz/~wilx/cygwin-boost/boost-devel-1.33.0-2.tar.bz2.asc


Vaclav Haisman


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Re: RFC: [ITP] Installation Profiles packages

2005-11-09 Thread Bas van Gompel
Op Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:21:28 +0100 schreef Corinna Vinschen
in 20051109162128.GA29765atcalimero.vinschen.de:
[...]
:  Which reminds me... isn't there a way that setup could store the latest
:  view of the chooser window the user has selected?  For instance, in
:  almost all cases I'd like to see the Partial view, not the Category
:  view.  Can storing the last view be added easily?

It doesn't look hard... I've partly done it. If no-one starts jumping
up and down saying ``Let me!'', I'll finish it.


L8r,

Buzz. [What about my other setup-patches? (I tested them. They WFM.)]
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