Re: Possible changes to setup.exe interface and name
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 01:21:23AM +0200, Michael Benford wrote: >On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:39:50 +0200, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 06:26:01PM +0200, Michael Benford wrote: >>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:58:42 +0200, Eric Blake wrote: On 09/20/2012 09:11 AM, Michael Benford wrote: > I would like to change the setup.exe so that it loads the package > selection page when it starts. And only runs the wizard when a > current > installation of the current version is not detected. Indeed - having the ability to skip past the 6 'Next' buttons for a repeated run after cygwin is already installed seems useful; but you still have to make it possible for the user to rerun the intro screens rather than hard-coding it to only start at the package selection page (since the intro screens are necessary for things like choosing a different mirror). Probably the easiest approach is to add a new command line option that can be used to skip the intro screens, and then users can script things with a batch file or by modifying the Windows shortcut to the actual setup.exe binary to add the option, although that will still require some user intervention rather than happening automatically. >>> I would implement a configuration panel that is accessible from the >>> package selection page.(i have developed a button table mini >>> application for launching other application with hard coded >>> command-line arguments using only win32) >> >> I'd rather just start with a command-line option than adding a whole new >> screen to setup.exe. > >I'm basically offering to turn setup.exe into a package manager. setup.exe >would need to auto detect the current state of installation and should >have a command line argument to force a new install. I don't know what "force a new install" means but setup.exe is already a package manager. People aren't clamoring for more screens. They are really clamoring for a more command-line-driven capability. >>Sorry. This isn't a democracy. We're not changing the name. This has >>come up before. I'm sure you can find past discussions on this issue >>if you search. > >I will search the mailing lists. If you could also send me a specific >email, mailing list and/or date to look at it would be appreciated. I don't keep this type of information at the tip of my fingers. Sorry. cgf
Re: Possible changes to setup.exe interface and name
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:39:50 +0200, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 06:26:01PM +0200, Michael Benford wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:58:42 +0200, Eric Blake wrote: On 09/20/2012 09:11 AM, Michael Benford wrote: I would like to change the setup.exe so that it loads the package selection page when it starts. And only runs the wizard when a current installation of the current version is not detected. Indeed - having the ability to skip past the 6 'Next' buttons for a repeated run after cygwin is already installed seems useful; but you still have to make it possible for the user to rerun the intro screens rather than hard-coding it to only start at the package selection page (since the intro screens are necessary for things like choosing a different mirror). Probably the easiest approach is to add a new command line option that can be used to skip the intro screens, and then users can script things with a batch file or by modifying the Windows shortcut to the actual setup.exe binary to add the option, although that will still require some user intervention rather than happening automatically. I would implement a configuration panel that is accessible from the package selection page.(i have developed a button table mini application for launching other application with hard coded command-line arguments using only win32) I'd rather just start with a command-line option than adding a whole new screen to setup.exe. I'm basically offering to turn setup.exe into a package manager. setup.exe would need to auto detect the current state of installation and should have a command line argument to force a new install. The file name setup.exe is ambiguous if stored in a folder with other application installation files. I suggest using the file name cygpac.exe and application name Cygwin package manager. Won't happen. You are free to download the file and rename it yourself, but people have come to expect the name of the file that they download to originally be named setup.exe, and every time this topic has come up in the past, it has been rejected. I would like to put it to a vote. If you vote please state why you chose that position. Sorry. This isn't a democracy. We're not changing the name. This has come up before. I'm sure you can find past discussions on this issue if you search. cgf I will search the mailing lists. If you could also send me a specific email, mailing list and/or date to look at it would be appreciated.
Re: O: jikes
Ok. Message received. Sergio. 2012/9/20 Eric Blake : > On 09/20/2012 08:24 AM, SPC wrote: >> Hello. I'm trying to compile mtr (http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/) under >> cygwin. The attempt returns an error message about netinit\ip6.h: > > Wrong list, and wrong thread. Commandeering a thread is considered poor > netiquette, especially when you can't even be bothered to change the > subject line. And your question is more appropriate for the main cygwin > list, as it has nothing to do with packaging an application for > distribution as part of the cygwin project. > > -- > Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com+1-919-301-3266 > Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org >
Re: O: jikes
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 04:43:17PM -0600, Eric Blake wrote: >On 09/19/2012 04:24 PM, Thomas Wolff wrote: >> Am 19.09.2012 07:10, schrieb Jari Aalto: >>> I'm orphaning package "jikes". If anyone feels insterested in taking >>> over, >>> please go ahead. >>> >> I suggest to deprecate it. It is orphaned upstream and has never been >> updated to Java 5. > >Seconded, as the guy who orphaned it upstream when Java 5 came out. I've marked this package as obsolete. cgf
Re: Possible changes to setup.exe interface and name
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 06:26:01PM +0200, Michael Benford wrote: >On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:58:42 +0200, Eric Blake wrote: >>On 09/20/2012 09:11 AM, Michael Benford wrote: >>>I would like to change the setup.exe so that it loads the package >>>selection page when it starts. And only runs the wizard when a current >>>installation of the current version is not detected. >> >>Indeed - having the ability to skip past the 6 'Next' buttons for a >>repeated run after cygwin is already installed seems useful; but you >>still have to make it possible for the user to rerun the intro screens >>rather than hard-coding it to only start at the package selection page >>(since the intro screens are necessary for things like choosing a >>different mirror). Probably the easiest approach is to add a new >>command line option that can be used to skip the intro screens, and >>then users can script things with a batch file or by modifying the >>Windows shortcut to the actual setup.exe binary to add the option, >>although that will still require some user intervention rather than >>happening automatically. >> >I would implement a configuration panel that is accessible from the >package selection page.(i have developed a button table mini >application for launching other application with hard coded >command-line arguments using only win32) I'd rather just start with a command-line option than adding a whole new screen to setup.exe. >>>The file name setup.exe is ambiguous if stored in a folder with other >>>application installation files. I suggest using the file name >>>cygpac.exe and application name Cygwin package manager. >> >>Won't happen. You are free to download the file and rename it >>yourself, but people have come to expect the name of the file that they >>download to originally be named setup.exe, and every time this topic >>has come up in the past, it has been rejected. >> >I would like to put it to a vote. If you vote please state why you >chose that position. Sorry. This isn't a democracy. We're not changing the name. This has come up before. I'm sure you can find past discussions on this issue if you search. cgf
Re: RFU: optipng 0.7.3-1 (libpng, updated URLs)
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:41:20PM +0300, Jari Aalto wrote: >2012-09-19 17:55 Christopher Faylor >| > >| >Updated to latest libpng, oldest can be removed, >| >| Couldn't upload. Only the setup.hint was found: > >wget --recursive --no-host-directories --cut-dirs=3 \ >http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/optipng/optipng-0.7.3-1-src.tar.bz2 \ >http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/optipng/optipng-0.7.3-1.tar.bz2 \ >http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/optipng/setup.hint Uploaded. Oldest removed.
Re: RFU: offlineimap 6.5.4 (Updated URLs)
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:34:21PM +0300, Jari Aalto wrote: >2012-09-19 16:51 Christopher Faylor >| On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 09:48:46AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >| >| You are missing a source package there > >Here: > >wget --recursive --no-host-directories --cut-dirs=3 \ > > http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/offlineimap/offlineimap-6.5.4-1-src.tar.bz2 > \ > > http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/offlineimap/offlineimap-6.5.4-1.tar.bz2 \ >http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/offlineimap/setup.hint Uploaded.
Re: Possible changes to setup.exe interface and name
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:58:42 +0200, Eric Blake wrote: On 09/20/2012 09:11 AM, Michael Benford wrote: I would like to change the setup.exe so that it loads the package selection page when it starts. And only runs the wizard when a current installation of the current version is not detected. Indeed - having the ability to skip past the 6 'Next' buttons for a repeated run after cygwin is already installed seems useful; but you still have to make it possible for the user to rerun the intro screens rather than hard-coding it to only start at the package selection page (since the intro screens are necessary for things like choosing a different mirror). Probably the easiest approach is to add a new command line option that can be used to skip the intro screens, and then users can script things with a batch file or by modifying the Windows shortcut to the actual setup.exe binary to add the option, although that will still require some user intervention rather than happening automatically. I would implement a configuration panel that is accessible from the package selection page.(i have developed a button table mini application for launching other application with hard coded command-line arguments using only win32) The file name setup.exe is ambiguous if stored in a folder with other application installation files. I suggest using the file name cygpac.exe and application name Cygwin package manager. Won't happen. You are free to download the file and rename it yourself, but people have come to expect the name of the file that they download to originally be named setup.exe, and every time this topic has come up in the past, it has been rejected. I would like to put it to a vote. If you vote please state why you chose that position. I am happy to implement both of these changes my self but I need feed back and permission from the community. Go for it - this is open source, so you can make the changes for your own use even if the community doesn't like them. -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: Possible changes to setup.exe interface and name
On 09/20/2012 09:11 AM, Michael Benford wrote: > I would like to change the setup.exe so that it loads the package > selection page when it starts. > And only runs the wizard when a current installation of the current > version is not detected. Indeed - having the ability to skip past the 6 'Next' buttons for a repeated run after cygwin is already installed seems useful; but you still have to make it possible for the user to rerun the intro screens rather than hard-coding it to only start at the package selection page (since the intro screens are necessary for things like choosing a different mirror). Probably the easiest approach is to add a new command line option that can be used to skip the intro screens, and then users can script things with a batch file or by modifying the Windows shortcut to the actual setup.exe binary to add the option, although that will still require some user intervention rather than happening automatically. > > The file name setup.exe is ambiguous if stored in a folder with other > application installation files. > I suggest using the file name cygpac.exe and application name Cygwin > package manager. Won't happen. You are free to download the file and rename it yourself, but people have come to expect the name of the file that they download to originally be named setup.exe, and every time this topic has come up in the past, it has been rejected. > > I am happy to implement both of these changes my self but I need feed > back and permission from the community. Go for it - this is open source, so you can make the changes for your own use even if the community doesn't like them. -- Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com+1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Possible changes to setup.exe interface and name
I would like to change the setup.exe so that it loads the package selection page when it starts. And only runs the wizard when a current installation of the current version is not detected. The file name setup.exe is ambiguous if stored in a folder with other application installation files. I suggest using the file name cygpac.exe and application name Cygwin package manager. I am happy to implement both of these changes my self but I need feed back and permission from the community.
Re: mtr package compilation under cygwin
On 09/20/2012 08:26 AM, SPC wrote: > Hello again and sorry (Jari mostly) for a previous message with a > wrong subject. I'll repeat. Still the wrong list. -- Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com+1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: O: jikes
On 09/20/2012 08:24 AM, SPC wrote: > Hello. I'm trying to compile mtr (http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/) under > cygwin. The attempt returns an error message about netinit\ip6.h: Wrong list, and wrong thread. Commandeering a thread is considered poor netiquette, especially when you can't even be bothered to change the subject line. And your question is more appropriate for the main cygwin list, as it has nothing to do with packaging an application for distribution as part of the cygwin project. -- Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com+1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
mtr package compilation under cygwin
Hello again and sorry (Jari mostly) for a previous message with a wrong subject. I'll repeat. I'm trying to compile mtr (http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/) under cygwin. The attempt returns an error message about netinit\ip6.h: $ make make all-recursive make[1]: se ingresa al directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' Making all in img make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82/img' make[3]: se ingresa al directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' make[3]: se sale del directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' make[2]: No se hace nada para `all'. make[2]: se sale del directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82/img' make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/inc lude/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gl ib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng15 -I/usr/include/libpng14 -Wall -Wno-pointer -sign -MT mtr.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/mtr.Tpo -c -o mtr.o mtr.c In file included from mtr.c:36:0: net.h:25:25: error fatal: netinet/ip6.h: No such file or directory compilación terminada. Makefile:376: recipe for target `mtr.o' failed make[2]: *** [mtr.o] Error 1 make[2]: se sale del directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' Makefile:434: recipe for target `all-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: se sale del directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' Makefile:260: recipe for target `all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 Is this header file available ? $ d /usr/include/netinet /usr/include/netinet/: rw-r--r-- win:None 508 Jul 20 22:56 in.h rw-r--r-- win:None 355 Jul 20 22:56 in_systm.h rw-r--r-- win:None 8.2K Jul 20 22:56 ip.h rw-r--r-- win:None 347 Jul 20 22:56 ip_icmp.h rw-r--r-- win:None 5.3K Jul 20 22:56 tcp.h rw-r--r-- win:None 2.2K Jul 20 22:56 udp.h 6 regular files in directory, with a total size of 17K. At least not in my Cygwin installation, but who knows... All help is welcome. -- Gracias | Regards Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Grüße - Salutations -- Sergio Pedraja twitter: @sergio_pedraja skype: Sergio Pedraja http://plus.google.com/u/0/101292256663392735405 - No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que está viéndolo todo -- Gracias | Regards Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Grüße - Salutations -- Sergio Pedraja twitter: @sergio_pedraja skype: Sergio Pedraja http://plus.google.com/u/0/101292256663392735405 http://www.linkedin.com/in/sergiopedraja http://www.quora.com/Sergio-Pedraja http://spedraja.wordpress.com https://www.xing.com/profile/Sergio_Pedraja http://www.viadeo.com http://www.avalonred.com/ - No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que está viéndolo todo
Re: O: jikes
Hello. I'm trying to compile mtr (http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/) under cygwin. The attempt returns an error message about netinit\ip6.h: $ make make all-recursive make[1]: se ingresa al directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' Making all in img make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82/img' make[3]: se ingresa al directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' make[3]: se sale del directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' make[2]: No se hace nada para `all'. make[2]: se sale del directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82/img' make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/inc lude/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gl ib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng15 -I/usr/include/libpng14 -Wall -Wno-pointer -sign -MT mtr.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/mtr.Tpo -c -o mtr.o mtr.c In file included from mtr.c:36:0: net.h:25:25: error fatal: netinet/ip6.h: No such file or directory compilación terminada. Makefile:376: recipe for target `mtr.o' failed make[2]: *** [mtr.o] Error 1 make[2]: se sale del directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' Makefile:434: recipe for target `all-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: se sale del directorio `/cygdrive/h/dvl/sys/mtr/mtr-0.82' Makefile:260: recipe for target `all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 Is this header file available ? $ d /usr/include/netinet /usr/include/netinet/: rw-r--r-- win:None 508 Jul 20 22:56 in.h rw-r--r-- win:None 355 Jul 20 22:56 in_systm.h rw-r--r-- win:None 8.2K Jul 20 22:56 ip.h rw-r--r-- win:None 347 Jul 20 22:56 ip_icmp.h rw-r--r-- win:None 5.3K Jul 20 22:56 tcp.h rw-r--r-- win:None 2.2K Jul 20 22:56 udp.h 6 regular files in directory, with a total size of 17K. At least not in my Cygwin installation, but who knows... All help is welcome. -- Gracias | Regards Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Grüße - Salutations -- Sergio Pedraja twitter: @sergio_pedraja skype: Sergio Pedraja http://plus.google.com/u/0/101292256663392735405 - No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que está viéndolo todo
Re: RFU: optipng 0.7.3-1 (libpng, updated URLs)
2012-09-19 17:55 Christopher Faylor | > | >Updated to latest libpng, oldest can be removed, | | Couldn't upload. Only the setup.hint was found: wget --recursive --no-host-directories --cut-dirs=3 \ http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/optipng/optipng-0.7.3-1-src.tar.bz2 \ http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/optipng/optipng-0.7.3-1.tar.bz2 \ http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/optipng/setup.hint Jari
Re: RFU: offlineimap 6.5.4 (Updated URLs)
2012-09-19 16:51 Christopher Faylor | On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 09:48:46AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: | | You are missing a source package there Here: wget --recursive --no-host-directories --cut-dirs=3 \ http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/offlineimap/offlineimap-6.5.4-1-src.tar.bz2 \ http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/offlineimap/offlineimap-6.5.4-1.tar.bz2 \ http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/cygwin/offlineimap/setup.hint Jari
