Re: ANNOUNCE: cygbug - generic bug reporting tool (like Debian reportbug)

2004-03-25 Thread Reini Urban
Jari Aalto+mail.linux schrieb:
wget --non-verbose  \
  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/cygbug/cygbug-20040422-1.tar.bz2 \
  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/cygbug/cygbug-20040422-1.tar.bz2.sig \
The sig has 317789 byte and is the same as the bz2.
Obviously the sig verification fails therefore also.
Comments:
The SMTPSERVER should be read from /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf
cygwin has no /usr/bin/ypcat
BTW:
I'd like xemacs to be supported also. Should be no major effort.
I'll try it by myself.
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RE: ANNOUNCE: cygbug - generic bug reporting tool (like Debian reportbug)

2004-03-25 Thread Chris January
 * Tue 2004-03-23 Christopher Faylor
 cgf-no-personal-reply-please-rDBXBDvO6BXQT0dZR+AlfA AT
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 *
 | On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 05:10:03PM +0200, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:
 |
 | It can be used to deliver messages to upstream developers concerning
 | cygwin related bugs.  It can also be used to send patches to other
 | Cugwin developer (I just sent one to ssmtp maintainer).
 |
 | The ssmtp maintainer?  So in other words, you're sending private email
 | to people whom you deem to be the maintainer?  That's really counter to
 | policy.

 The maintainer information is read from installed *README files. If there
 is some better way, let me know.

I'm not happy with something that e-mails the maintainers directly lest this
be mistaken for policy.

Chris J



Re: ANNOUNCE: cygbug - generic bug reporting tool (like Debian reportbug)

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 12:28:09PM -, Chris January wrote:
 * Tue 2004-03-23 Christopher Faylor
 cgf-no-personal-reply-please-rDBXBDvO6BXQT0dZR+AlfA AT
 public.gmane.org
 *
 | On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 05:10:03PM +0200, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:
 |
 | It can be used to deliver messages to upstream developers concerning
 | cygwin related bugs.  It can also be used to send patches to other
 | Cugwin developer (I just sent one to ssmtp maintainer).
 |
 | The ssmtp maintainer?  So in other words, you're sending private email
 | to people whom you deem to be the maintainer?  That's really counter to
 | policy.

 The maintainer information is read from installed *README files. If there
 is some better way, let me know.

I'm not happy with something that e-mails the maintainers directly lest this
be mistaken for policy.

Thank you.

Please consider this package officially vetoed.

cgf


Re: ANNOUNCE: cygbug - generic bug reporting tool (like Debian reportbug)

2004-03-23 Thread Jari Aalto+mail.linux

On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:06:04PM +0200, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:
This is 2nd version of the cygbug/reportbug utility for Cygwin.  It has
been modeled after Debian reportbug(1) and includes almost all its
features including A WNPP pseudo bug reports.  See further below what
WNPPs are.

Eventually, the cygwin project will be using bugzilla.  I don't
know now this package interrelates with bugzilla but since you
haven't received any votes for this package, I think it's
premature to be announcing it, in any event.

cgf

The first version was a pure Emacs solution. Someone expressed that
not all were familiar with it, so I added command line version.  which
uses user preferred $VISUAL editor.

Here are some pictures, in case they express the idea better than
the words in previous mail. 

a) the command line version (using bash + $VISUAL + ssmtp):

  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/cygbug/cygbug-cmd-line-beg.jpg 
  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/cygbug/cygbug-cmd-line-end.jpg 

b) the Emacs interface, if Emacs is installed:

  http://tierra.dyndns.org:81/cygwin/cygbug/cygbug-emacs.jpg 

It can be used to deliver messages to upstream developers concerning
cygwin related bugs. It can also be used to send patches to other
Cugwin developer (I just sent one to ssmtp maintainer). The WNPP could
help handling package maintenance by offering it for grabs, abandoning
package, taking package manitenance ...)

Jari

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Re: ANNOUNCE: cygbug - generic bug reporting tool (like Debian reportbug)

2004-03-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 05:10:03PM +0200, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:
It can be used to deliver messages to upstream developers concerning
cygwin related bugs.  It can also be used to send patches to other
Cugwin developer (I just sent one to ssmtp maintainer).

The ssmtp maintainer?  So in other words, you're sending private email
to people whom you deem to be the maintainer?  That's really counter to
policy.

Also, you quoted my mail about bugzilla but didn't address the issue of how
it would interrelate with bugzilla.

Sorry, perhaps Corinna disagrees, but, so far, I don't see a need for this
package.
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Re: ANNOUNCE: cygbug - generic bug reporting tool (like Debian reportbug)

2004-03-23 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 23 10:28, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 05:10:03PM +0200, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:
 It can be used to deliver messages to upstream developers concerning
 cygwin related bugs.  It can also be used to send patches to other
 Cugwin developer (I just sent one to ssmtp maintainer).
 
 The ssmtp maintainer?  So in other words, you're sending private email
 to people whom you deem to be the maintainer?  That's really counter to
 policy.
 
 Also, you quoted my mail about bugzilla but didn't address the issue of how
 it would interrelate with bugzilla.
 
 Sorry, perhaps Corinna disagrees, but, so far, I don't see a need for this
 package.

I don't see a need for bugzilla either, but that's another problem.

Corinna

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Re: ANNOUNCE: cygbug - generic bug reporting tool (like Debian reportbug)

2004-03-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 05:16:57PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Mar 23 10:28, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 05:10:03PM +0200, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:
It can be used to deliver messages to upstream developers concerning
cygwin related bugs.  It can also be used to send patches to other
Cugwin developer (I just sent one to ssmtp maintainer).

The ssmtp maintainer?  So in other words, you're sending private
email to people whom you deem to be the maintainer?  That's really
counter to policy.

Also, you quoted my mail about bugzilla but didn't address the issue of
how it would interrelate with bugzilla.

Sorry, perhaps Corinna disagrees, but, so far, I don't see a need for
this package.

I don't see a need for bugzilla either, but that's another problem.

I'd previously been against bugzilla because I was sure that the quality
of bug reporting from the cygwin community would pretty much suck.  However,
I do see some benefits in terms of attaching binaries, large test cases,
large strace logs, etc. which would just clutter the mailing list.  It
just needs some volunteers to act as policemen to either close non-bugs
or ask for appropriate amounts of information.

I had gotten some volunteers when I first asked for this a while ago but
I dragged my feet getting bugzilla set up.  It is set up now and just needs
to be populated with the correct categories and sub-categories.

cgf


Re: ANNOUNCE: cygbug - generic bug reporting tool (like Debian reportbug)

2004-03-23 Thread Jari Aalto+mail.linux
* Tue 2004-03-23 Christopher Faylor 
cgf-no-personal-reply-please-rDBXBDvO6BXQT0dZR+AlfA AT public.gmane.org
* 
| On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 05:10:03PM +0200, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:
| 
| It can be used to deliver messages to upstream developers concerning
| cygwin related bugs.  It can also be used to send patches to other
| Cugwin developer (I just sent one to ssmtp maintainer).
| 
| The ssmtp maintainer?  So in other words, you're sending private email
| to people whom you deem to be the maintainer?  That's really counter to
| policy.

The maintainer information is read from installed *README files. If there
is some better way, let me know.

I contacted ssmtp maintainer for a small patch to solve the compiling
problem when additional ./configure options were used. I'll forward
further patches to this list as well.

| Also, you quoted my mail about bugzilla but didn't address the issue of how
| it would interrelate with bugzilla.

I cannot comment on it yet. I would imagine it would be bureaucratic
. Like debian reportbug, cygbug is quite easy and fast to use.
Granted, bugzilla gathers history and has features needed. I'll
investigate if program could interface to bugzilla, when it's used.

Hm. How would bugzilla deal with package maintenance shifts like those
found in Debian:

RFA Request for adoptation (who wan't to maintain THIS..)
ORPHAN  Orphan a pacage

I modeled the program after Debian, so it could tackle those.

| Sorry, perhaps Corinna disagrees, but, so far, I don't see a need for this
| package.

I have found that it helps talking to upstream package author's when I
can track messages faster and easier. filters can be set based on the
Subject's bug id (Now: Cygwin-bug#).

Jari

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Re: ANNOUNCE: cygbug - generic bug reporting tool (like Debian reportbug)

2004-03-22 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:06:04PM +0200, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote:
This is 2nd version of the cygbug/reportbug utility for Cygwin.  It has
been modeled after Debian reportbug(1) and includes almost all its
features including A WNPP pseudo bug reports.  See further below what
WNPPs are.

Eventually, the cygwin project will be using bugzilla.  I don't know now
this package interrelates with bugzilla but since you haven't received
any votes for this package, I think it's premature to be announcing
it, in any event.

cgf