multiwindow doesn't work

2004-09-07 Thread Jim Scheef
I'm reposting. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jim

--- Jim Scheef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:41:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jim Scheef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: multiwindow doesn't work
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Alexander,
> 
> Thanks for the prompt reply, but this used to work and I can't minimize the
> desktop window because it is frameless. Worse, the desktop remains on top
> and
> hides all Windows apps. The syntax "startx -multiwindow &" comes from the
> KDE
> web site and clearly indicates that the desktop is not to appear, so
> something is wrong.
> 
> What causes the message: "ERROR: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)"?
> This
> message is also displayed when I start any KDE apps, like kwrite.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim
> 
> --- Alexander Gottwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Jim Scheef wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > Ever since CygwinX switched X server source (or whatever changed), I
> have
> > not
> > > been able to make -multiwindow work on my machine running XP SP1. KDE 3
> > is
> > > installed as the desktop. When I start using "startx -multiwindow &",
> > > everything seems to start up correctly - the splash screen is displayed
> > in a
> > > Windows window, the round plays and then the root window appears and
> > > initializes in frameless mode.
> > 
> > KDE has it's own root (or better desktop) window. This is just a simple
> > window
> > and Xwin can do nothing to hide it.
> > 
> > Other KDE application will be displayed as simple windows and you could
> > minimize
> > the destop window and have the others still present.
> > 
> > bye
> > ago
> > NP: Accessory - I say go (Hocico Mix)
> > -- 
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> >  http://www.gotti.org   ICQ: 126018723
> > 
> 
> 



Re: can't start KDE on FreeBSD from Windows XP

2004-09-07 Thread Bruce Rhodewalt
Thanks a lot to you both.  I have installed rebase, but the syntax is 
actually different from what you describe.  With and without a parameter 
on the command line, I get usage errors:

$ rebase
usage: rebase -b BaseAddress [-Vdv] [-o Offset] [-T FileList | -] Files...
$ rebase cygz.dll
usage: rebase -b BaseAddress [-Vdv] [-o Offset] [-T FileList | -] Files...
$ rebase -v c:\programfiles\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll
usage: rebase -b BaseAddress [-Vdv] [-o Offset] [-T FileList | -] Files...
My version:
$ rebase -V
rebase version 2.3 (imagehelper version 0.7)
Copyright (c) 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 Ralf Habacker and Jason Tishler
Bruce


Ralf Habacker wrote:
On Tuesday 07 September 2004 10:36, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote:
I'm having trouble configuring KDE on my Windows XP machine (using
Cygwin/X 2004/03/25).
From my bash shell, I can ssh or telnet to my FreeBSD 5.2.1 RELEASE
machine.  However, if I try to connect and run KDE, I have problems.
where do you run KDE? On the FreeBSD box or on cygwin? The log below
say you're starting it on cygwin.
If so then I'd pass you on to the kde-cygwin mailing list.

iceauth:  creating new authority file /home/Bruce/.ICEauthority
KDEINIT_KIO_EXEC
kdeinit: Launched KLauncher, pid = 3604 result = 0
C:\programfiles\cygwin\opt\kde3\bin\kdeinit.exe (3872): *** unable to
remap C:\p
rogramfiles\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll to same address as parent(0xD3) !=
0xD4
   1105 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: child 3872(0x65C) died
before initi
alization with status code 0x1
   1632 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: *** child state child
loading dlls
I think this is the reason why you get no windows. But i have no clue
what caused this error.
This is a rebasing problem. See 
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/faq.php#rebase. 

BTW: Don't know the email address of bruce so send to the cygwin-xfree list 
too. 

Regards 

Ralf 





Re: X11 becomes unresponsive. VERY unresponsive.

2004-09-07 Thread Jack Tanner
I've also been having similar problems. Unresponsiveness on my end isn't 
as atrocious (I get delays in single seconds, mostly).

For a test case, see my post "ssh slowdowns under X".


Re: gtk2-x11-devel is missing gdk/gdkwin32.h

2004-09-07 Thread Andrew Schulman
> | I don't know if this file has been deliberately excluded from the package
> | (version 2.4.4-1), but I needed it in order to build LablGtk2.  I had
> to go
> | and fetch it from http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/gtk+-dev-2.4.7.zip.
> 
> No, it's a problem with lablgtk2.  gdk/gdkwin32.h is only for the Win32
> gdktarget; the Cygwin gtk2 packages use X11 and hence use gdk/gdkx.h.
> For some reason, lablgtk2 assumes that Cygwin uses Win32.  The attached
> patch will fix that and the install procedure.

OK, thanks.  For now I was able to build lablgtk using gdk/gdkwin32.h, 
so since it works I'll just leave it at that.  But I'm filing your patch 
in case I have to build lablgtk again.

Andrew.



Re: X11 becomes unresponsive. VERY unresponsive.

2004-09-07 Thread Charles E. Cooper
I've been having similar problems.
I have not rebuilt my cygwin in quite a while and haven't had these 
problems before.
any chance there's a conflict with some new patch in  Windows 2000?

I had not seen these performance problems previously, just the last few weeks.
My CPU pegs at 100% during cygwin usage, typically with starting up new 
windows.
It is close to unusable at times.

Chuck

At 10:12 AM 9/6/2004 +0200, you wrote:
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, David Arnstein wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a problem with cygwin-x11 on my home machine, which runs
> Windows 2000 s.p. 4.
>
> All X11 windows become unresponsive.  Really unresponsive. The windows
> don't repaint when exposed.  Right mouse button (context) menus do not
> pop up.
>
> Earlier today, I reinstalled ALL of my cygwin packages, it did not help.
>
> Just now, I started X11 and I had one xterm running bash.  X11 was
> working OK, as far as I could tell.  I left the computer for 10
> minutes; so it was completely idle.  When I returned, X11 was in the
> unresponsive state.
>
> How can I debug this problem?  I close this e-mail with the contents
> of my /tmp/XWin.log file.  Is there anything else I can provide?
> Thanks for any suggestions!
There are some reasons for poor Cygwin/X performance in the FAQ. One
of them is a small program from ATI.
What about CPU usage? Is XWin taking 100% and nothing happens? Or is
it nearly idle?
bye
ago
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RE: X11 becomes unresponsive. VERY unresponsive.

2004-09-07 Thread Richard Campbell
> I don't recall any reported problems with Cygwin/X per se, but there is a
> HUGE hyperthreading-related thread on the main Cygwin list -- you might do
> well to check there.  Here's an executive summary for the impatient:
> unless someone tracks down the problem and fixes it, or donates a
> hyperthreaded system that exhibits the problem to CGF, this won't get
> fixed.

You don't have to donate a whole system yourself - just send money to CGF 
through Paypal, (CGF address: me -at- cgf -dot- cx), and when/if there's enough, 
he'll get a hyperthreaded system.

-Richard Campbell.


RE: Mac OS/X, Virtual PC 6, Oracle, and Cygwin/X - a tale

2004-09-07 Thread Thomas Chadwick
I read your email with great interest, and congratulate you on your 
perseverence and creativity in solving you VPN problem.  However, something 
occurred to me that you might want to consider.

I don't know a whole lot about Virtual PC, but if it really behaves as a 
stand-alone PC which co-exists on the same LAN as the Host PC (in this case 
the Mac), it should be entirely possible to set up a simple network route 
which routes TCP/IP traffic between the VPN endpoint (at the virtual PC 
side) over to the host Mac.  This would allow you to run Apple's X server 
instead of using Cygwin/X.  I'm willing to bet that VPN<->VirtualPC(virtual 
route)<->Max X-server is going to have better performance than 
VPN<->VirtualPC(Cygwin/X).

I think WinME and WinXP have routing built-in (called Internet Connection 
Sharing, or ICS).  Other flavors of Windows can be setup to route using 
3rd-party freeware.

>From: Dr Robert Young 
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Mac OS/X, Virtual PC 6, Oracle, and Cygwin/X - a tale
>Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:49:58 -0400
>
>Well it is possible to get cygwin/X running on Virtual PC 6.1.1
>under Mac OS/X 10.3. There are some  tricks (simply to make it work,
>and to preserve your sanity..all Windows OSs are NOT created
>equal), so please  bear with me while I provide some "color" 
to my
>tale.
>
>Now, you may ask why anyone would want to get this combo working on
>a Macintosh Powerbook G4 running OS/X 10.3.5? You can get X windows
>for OS/X directly.
>
>However, the world is populated by Windows machines, and as a
>database consultant, I have to access a multitude of client sites
>"remotely" since travel is not an option for a myriad of 
reasons.
>That means you enter the world of VPNs, which are in heavy use
>today, and getting more common by the minute. And the world of VPNs
>is dominated by Windows software ( NOT the VPN that you  get
>w/Windows direct from Microsoft, but the proprietary ones like
>Contivity, Cisco, Avaya, etc). Further VPN's do not "like" to 
be
>installed on the same machine as other VPN's ( these things do not
>"play well" together), so if you are working with 3-4-5 
customers
>and all the associated VPN software is from different vendors...well
>you can see the problem even if you don't toss in the point that I
>wanted to use my Mac that I had already paid for with hard earned,
>cold, unadulterated CASH.
>
>That was my original motivation for getting Virtual PC...so one
>could use the Windows VPN software to access the client sites, by
>defining "multiple" virtual PCs each with their own software
>installed for a specific customer, and do it all from (1)
>laptop. AND IT WORKS!
>
>The next issue came from Oracle Corporation ( remember I make a
>living as a database consultant). On Unix (Sun, HP, AIX, Linux) the
>Oracle installer is the "Universal Installer"...ie it is  a 
java
>based & X-based. Character based telnet installs are not a real
>option anymore, much to the telecommuter's regret.
>
>That means I needed to come up with a means of running remote
>X-apps, through the client's VPN under Windows, but (in my case
>solely as a matter of personal preference) on a Macintosh OS/X
>system. There is now a version of Virtual PC for Windows letting you
>define multiple Win OS's on the same Intel platform ( I do, in fact,
>  have an older Compaq laptop ), but that means I have to by a newer
>Intel based laptop with more disk & memory & the Win Virtual PC
>software, and I didn't want to spend the $$$ there.
>
>Enough of the "tedious" background...but you do now have a 
good feel
>for the situation
>
>
>I looked at several commercial Windows X servers (since I had to use
>Windows based VPNs) , and all would run under Virtual PC but in true
>Murphy's form, each had its own "problem" with the Oracle 
Universal
>Installer...fonts, missing buttons, etc. The glitches were well
>documented around the various Oracle www sites, but no real good
>solutions were available unless you could get a customer to change
>their X client setup "just for you" ( not a point you really 
want to
>ask a paying customer), upgrade their Oracle site-wide ( only a few
>hundred thousand dollars for that one), or  you could find V6 of the
>'X' server software (which was now on V12..lotsa luck on that one).
>Then I came across cygwin/X...
>
>Now I like free software in my business, it allows me to spend more
>money on my hobbies. So I downloaded cygwin/X onto two different
>Virtual PC setups...one is Windows 2000, the other is Windows 98SE.
>
>In the case of the basic cygwin, one has to increase the environment
>space for storing PATH information, etc. Once that was done, cygwin
>would come up under both Windows OSs, but it was much slower under
>Win 2000.
>
>Next I needed the X software running. For each Windows OS, I tried
>startxwin.bat & startxwin.sh. Sorry to say, these were a no go. The
>"X" showed up in the task bar, 

Re: can't start KDE on FreeBSD from Windows XP

2004-09-07 Thread Ralf Habacker
On Tuesday 07 September 2004 10:36, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote:
> > I'm having trouble configuring KDE on my Windows XP machine (using
> > Cygwin/X 2004/03/25).
> >
> >  From my bash shell, I can ssh or telnet to my FreeBSD 5.2.1 RELEASE
> > machine.  However, if I try to connect and run KDE, I have problems.
>
> where do you run KDE? On the FreeBSD box or on cygwin? The log below
> say you're starting it on cygwin.
>
> If so then I'd pass you on to the kde-cygwin mailing list.
>
> > iceauth:  creating new authority file /home/Bruce/.ICEauthority
> > KDEINIT_KIO_EXEC
> > kdeinit: Launched KLauncher, pid = 3604 result = 0
> > C:\programfiles\cygwin\opt\kde3\bin\kdeinit.exe (3872): *** unable to
> > remap C:\p
> > rogramfiles\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll to same address as parent(0xD3) !=
> > 0xD4
> > 1105 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: child 3872(0x65C) died
> > before initi
> > alization with status code 0x1
> > 1632 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: *** child state child
> > loading dlls
>
> I think this is the reason why you get no windows. But i have no clue
> what caused this error.
>
This is a rebasing problem. See 
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/faq.php#rebase. 

BTW: Don't know the email address of bruce so send to the cygwin-xfree list 
too. 

Regards 

Ralf 



Re: can't start KDE on FreeBSD from Windows XP

2004-09-07 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote:

> I'm having trouble configuring KDE on my Windows XP machine (using
> Cygwin/X 2004/03/25).
> 
>  From my bash shell, I can ssh or telnet to my FreeBSD 5.2.1 RELEASE
> machine.  However, if I try to connect and run KDE, I have problems.

where do you run KDE? On the FreeBSD box or on cygwin? The log below 
say you're starting it on cygwin. 

If so then I'd pass you on to the kde-cygwin mailing list.

> iceauth:  creating new authority file /home/Bruce/.ICEauthority
> KDEINIT_KIO_EXEC
> kdeinit: Launched KLauncher, pid = 3604 result = 0
> C:\programfiles\cygwin\opt\kde3\bin\kdeinit.exe (3872): *** unable to
> remap C:\p
> rogramfiles\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll to same address as parent(0xD3) !=
> 0xD4
> 1105 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: child 3872(0x65C) died
> before initi
> alization with status code 0x1
> 1632 [main] kdein   3604 sync_with_child: *** child state child
> loading dlls

I think this is the reason why you get no windows. But i have no clue 
what caused this error.

bye
ago
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