Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem

2002-12-09 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Thomas Chadwick wrote:

 If you don't like the color flashing, perhaps you could mitigate it by 
 running 2 instances of XWin on 2 different screen numbers? 

Argl. This is the _DISPLAY_ number. Display means port number, running
XServer instance. Screen is just a number to let the XServer select the 
correct monitor/video card

HTH
ago




Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem

2002-12-08 Thread Charles Wilson
Harold L Hunt II wrote:


I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy.  I mean, it works fine
either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode.
Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode
with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color.


Correct.


Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even
when you are using one of the two options outlined above?  That would be
disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support
and I was pretty certain that it was working properly.  Hmm...


Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly.  It 
wants a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless 
you have support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same 
display.  AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this.

Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32.  *But*, because Xwin32 
supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not 
any other windows you might have open.  In my case, if I'm using an 
Xserver in full screen mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other 
windows inside it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit 
colorflashing.

OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple 
windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native 
windows editors, etc.  And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- 
so it's tolerable.

As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the 
cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection.

--Chuck



Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem

2002-12-08 Thread Thomas Chadwick
From: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 04:28:39 -0500

Harold L Hunt II wrote:


I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy.  I mean, it works fine
either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode.
Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed 
mode
with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color.

Correct.


Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 
even
when you are using one of the two options outlined above?  That would be
disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support
and I was pretty certain that it was working properly.  Hmm...

Well, it's also the fact that *cadence* uses PsuedoColor poorly.  It wants 
a private colormap, which means lots of fun colorflashing, unless you have 
support for multiple 256color psuedocolor maps within the same display.  
AFAIK, only Solaris's Xserver actually implements this.

Now, Cadence is ALSO ugly when hosted by XWin32.  *But*, because Xwin32 
supports multiple windows, the ugliness only affects cadence, and not any 
other windows you might have open.  In my case, if I'm using an Xserver in 
full screen mode, then I tend to open up xterms and other windows inside 
it -- which means they all get affected by the 8bit colorflashing.

OTOH, if I'm Xhosting an app using an Xserver that supports multiple 
windows, then I open up cygwin rxvt (native) rxvt windows, and native 
windows editors, etc.  And only cadence is affected by the 8bit issue -- so 
it's tolerable.

As I said, it has been a long time since I've tried it using the 
cygwin-xfree server, but that's my recollection.

--Chuck

If you don't like the color flashing, perhaps you could mitigate it by 
running 2 instances of XWin on 2 different screen numbers?  If you shift the 
Windows desktop into 8-bit color mode and run both instances of XWin in 
rootless mode, you'd hardly know that you were running 2 different servers 
(except you'll have to take care to get the DISPLAY variable set just 
right).

Just my $0.02.


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Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem

2002-12-07 Thread Charles Wilson
He's referring to a very old message on this list concerning 8bit 
PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree and Cadence.  Cadence is a CAD 
package that requires that feature -- and since PseudoColor support in 
cygwin-xfree is sketchy at best, you can't really use it to xhost 
cadence.  (Which is the primary reason I'm still using XWin32, personally).

Stephen -- nope, I don't think you can xhost cadence using cygwin-xfree 
yet.  (And next time, include a little background.  Not everybody 
instantly recalls every message on this list from the past four years)

--Chuck

Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Wow, with all of that information that you gave, we will be sure to 
answer your question very quickly!

Harold

Allott, Stephen wrote:

I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it 
ever got solved?




RE: 8 bit PseudoColor problem

2002-12-07 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Chuck,

I wouldn't say that PseudoColor support is sketchy.  I mean, it works fine
either in fullscreen or if you are running Windows in 8 bit color mode.
Granted, PseudoColor is not available when you are running in windowed mode
with Windows set at higher than 8 bit color.

Are you telling me that Cadence still does not work with Cygwin/XFree86 even
when you are using one of the two options outlined above?  That would be
disappointing because I did put a lot of time into the PseudoColor support
and I was pretty certain that it was working properly.  Hmm...

Harold

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Subject: Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem


He's referring to a very old message on this list concerning 8bit
PseudoColor support in cygwin-xfree and Cadence.  Cadence is a CAD
package that requires that feature -- and since PseudoColor support in
cygwin-xfree is sketchy at best, you can't really use it to xhost
cadence.  (Which is the primary reason I'm still using XWin32, personally).

Stephen -- nope, I don't think you can xhost cadence using cygwin-xfree
yet.  (And next time, include a little background.  Not everybody
instantly recalls every message on this list from the past four years)

--Chuck

Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 Wow, with all of that information that you gave, we will be sure to
 answer your question very quickly!

 Harold

 Allott, Stephen wrote:

 I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it
 ever got solved?




8 bit PseudoColor problem

2002-12-06 Thread Allott, Stephen
I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it ever got solved?

Steve Allott



Re: 8 bit PseudoColor problem

2002-12-06 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Wow, with all of that information that you gave, we will be sure to 
answer your question very quickly!

Harold

Allott, Stephen wrote:

I have just run across this problem using Cadence and wondered if it ever got solved?

Steve Allott