Re: Automatic X server startup
I know this thread is a bit old now but I just wanted to mention my solution. I've added X to start in a separate "screen" in my .bash_profile. That way every time I log into Cygwin, X is always available. It's kind of like the previous suggestion of adding it to Windows startup, but I have it more closely coupled to Cygwin. Matt D. On 6/2/2014 9:57 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote: On 28/05/2014 13:57, Pavel Fedin wrote: I believe this is arranged using launchd on OS X, which listens on the socket the X server will use, and starts the X server when something connects. Unfortunately, there is no similar system facility on Windows. But it should be possible to make xlib a little bit more smart, isn't it ? It could automatically run X server when a connection is attempted but refused. So we would achieve the same effect as on MacOS. We could e. g. have some directory like /etc/X11/autostart, to be examined by xlib. If it detects that e. g. :0 screen is not accessible, it would attempt to look up 0.xlaunch file there and run "xlaunch -run /etc/X11/autostart/0.xlaunch" command. What do you think ? I could implement this idea if you have no time to work on that, i believe it should be very easy. Patches are always welcome, so please feel free to work on this if you like. I have my doubts that that it's straightforward to add this in libX11 in a way that is generally useful (for e.g.: there would be a race condition if two processes both try to start the server at the same time, there's much room for confusion about how to specify the X server options to be used, if it could be started explicitly for the start menu, or implicitly by libX11,...) You can achieve a somewhat similar effect by copying the X server shortcut to the startup group to start it automatically at login, at the cost of slowing down system startup somewhat. Heh, it's already slow because of antivirus and other corporate stuff (i cannot disable it). Running on demand would be better. You might consider looking at starting it from launchd or perhaps xinitd if possible, and then just that can be started by the X server shortcut, or at startup. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Automatic X server startup
On 28/05/2014 13:57, Pavel Fedin wrote: I believe this is arranged using launchd on OS X, which listens on the socket the X server will use, and starts the X server when something connects. Unfortunately, there is no similar system facility on Windows. But it should be possible to make xlib a little bit more smart, isn't it ? It could automatically run X server when a connection is attempted but refused. So we would achieve the same effect as on MacOS. We could e. g. have some directory like /etc/X11/autostart, to be examined by xlib. If it detects that e. g. :0 screen is not accessible, it would attempt to look up 0.xlaunch file there and run "xlaunch -run /etc/X11/autostart/0.xlaunch" command. What do you think ? I could implement this idea if you have no time to work on that, i believe it should be very easy. Patches are always welcome, so please feel free to work on this if you like. I have my doubts that that it's straightforward to add this in libX11 in a way that is generally useful (for e.g.: there would be a race condition if two processes both try to start the server at the same time, there's much room for confusion about how to specify the X server options to be used, if it could be started explicitly for the start menu, or implicitly by libX11,...) You can achieve a somewhat similar effect by copying the X server shortcut to the startup group to start it automatically at login, at the cost of slowing down system startup somewhat. Heh, it's already slow because of antivirus and other corporate stuff (i cannot disable it). Running on demand would be better. You might consider looking at starting it from launchd or perhaps xinitd if possible, and then just that can be started by the X server shortcut, or at startup. -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Automatic X server startup
Hello! > I believe this is arranged using launchd on OS X, which listens on the > socket the X server will use, and starts the X server when something > connects. > > Unfortunately, there is no similar system facility on Windows. But it should be possible to make xlib a little bit more smart, isn't it ? It could automatically run X server when a connection is attempted but refused. So we would achieve the same effect as on MacOS. We could e. g. have some directory like /etc/X11/autostart, to be examined by xlib. If it detects that e. g. :0 screen is not accessible, it would attempt to look up 0.xlaunch file there and run "xlaunch -run /etc/X11/autostart/0.xlaunch" command. What do you think ? I could implement this idea if you have no time to work on that, i believe it should be very easy. > You can achieve a somewhat similar effect by copying the X server > shortcut to the startup group to start it automatically at login, at > the cost of slowing down system startup somewhat. Heh, it's already slow because of antivirus and other corporate stuff (i cannot disable it). Running on demand would be better. Kind regards, Pavel Fedin Expert Engineer Samsung Electronics Research center Russia -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Automatic X server startup
On 27/05/2014 13:52, Pavel Fedin wrote: Recently i have started using Insight (https://sourceware.org/insight/) under Cygwin/X. Everything is quite good except one thing. I remember once upon a time i worked on MacOS X. There, X server starts up automatically if there is some program requesting it. On Cygwin i still have to run it by hands. Is is possible to set up autostart of the X server ? May be i just don't know how to do it ? I believe this is arranged using launchd on OS X, which listens on the socket the X server will use, and starts the X server when something connects. Unfortunately, there is no similar system facility on Windows. You can achieve a somewhat similar effect by copying the X server shortcut to the startup group to start it automatically at login, at the cost of slowing down system startup somewhat. -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Automatic X server startup
On 5/27/2014 8:52 AM, Pavel Fedin wrote: Hello! Recently i have started using Insight (https://sourceware.org/insight/) under Cygwin/X. Everything is quite good except one thing. I remember once upon a time i worked on MacOS X. There, X server starts up automatically if there is some program requesting it. On Cygwin i still have to run it by hands. Is is possible to set up autostart of the X server ? May be i just don't know how to do it ? I use the xlaunch program and have it set to start when I log in. It can start programs for you, if you want anything started from the beginning, but you can have it run no programs and simply wait for any X programs to come along. If you run xlaunch with no arguments it pops up a short interactive GUI for setting up the configuration. And of course "man xlaunch" will tell you more. Best wishes -- Eliot Moss -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Automatic X server startup
Hello! Recently i have started using Insight (https://sourceware.org/insight/) under Cygwin/X. Everything is quite good except one thing. I remember once upon a time i worked on MacOS X. There, X server starts up automatically if there is some program requesting it. On Cygwin i still have to run it by hands. Is is possible to set up autostart of the X server ? May be i just don't know how to do it ? Kind regards, Pavel Fedin Expert Engineer Samsung Electronics Research center Russia -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
