Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Vinod Gupta wrote: > One easy solution would be to startup xwin with slightly reduced sized > root window. Is there any way to set screen size, say 90% of the > available real-estate? Not directly. you could query the desktop size with a small program, calculate 90% of the extends and build a proper string for the -screen parameter. Or you build a patch for XWin which incorporates it into xwin. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
>> Thanks Igor and Alexander. "run XWin -nodecoration" works fine >> for me. I think this should be the default in the startxwin >> script included in the Cygwin/Xfree86 distro. > No. The default is aimed at users who want to use Cygwin/X as xserver > for running local applications (like gv, xemacs) only and provides > very close integration into the windows desktop. Using a remote desktop You are right. May be it should be available as an easy option for those who would like to have both local and remote desktops. Our users have overwhelmingly embraced the idea of both desktops that I have included it in the startup of all users. A small fraction of grandma-type of users are taken aback when the blank xrootwindow completely obscures XP. One easy solution would be to startup xwin with slightly reduced sized root window. Is there any way to set screen size, say 90% of the available real-estate? Vinod
Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Vinod Gupta wrote: > Thanks Igor and Alexander. "run XWin -nodecoration" works fine > for me. I think this should be the default in the startxwin > script included in the Cygwin/Xfree86 distro. No. The default is aimed at users who want to use Cygwin/X as xserver for running local applications (like gv, xemacs) only and provides very close integration into the windows desktop. Using a remote desktop is far more experienced and will require tweaking the startup scripts. > "-internalwm" would be useful, particularly accross slow connections. > > I saw some discussion about porting KDE to Windows. See kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net > Having an alternative desktop on Windows might be interesting > but I am happy with XP desktop for local Windows and KDE Desktop > for remote linux server, both on my laptop. This gives me the best > of both worlds. The kde-replaces-windows-desktop project can be considered dead. I've not seen a message about this for about a year. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
> Any suggestions to make both desktops co-exist? > Vinod > Try omitting the -multiwindow parameter. That way, the KDE desktop will > be started in one Windows window that you can manipulate normally. > If you also want to open local X clients in multiwindow mode, you can > start another (windowed) instance of X for your KDE desktop (i.e., use > "run XWin :1.0 -clipboard") and ssh with DISPLAY set to :1.0 to start > your KDE session. > --Igorhttp://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ > with run.exe you will have to specify at least -nodecoration. > "run XWin" will hide the mainwindow. > (-externalwm and -internalwm are available in CVS versions and > Xming but they are still quite experimental) > --ago [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Igor and Alexander. "run XWin -nodecoration" works fine for me. I think this should be the default in the startxwin script included in the Cygwin/Xfree86 distro. "-internalwm" would be useful, particularly accross slow connections. I saw some discussion about porting KDE to Windows. Having an alternative desktop on Windows might be interesting but I am happy with XP desktop for local Windows and KDE Desktop for remote linux server, both on my laptop. This gives me the best of both worlds. Although, traditional unix users prefer command line interface but ability to use remote unix server through its own desktop opens up a huge convenience. Vinod
Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > Any suggestions to make both desktops co-exist? > > Try omitting the -multiwindow parameter. Please note that in conjunction with run.exe you will have to specify at least -nodecoration. "run XWin" will hide the mainwindow. Other working modes are -multiwindow, -rootless and -fullscreen (-externalwm and -internalwm are available in CVS versions and Xming but they are still quite experimental) bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Vinod Gupta wrote: > My cygwin and xfree86 installed fine on my Windows XP machine. I would > like to have both local XP desktop and remote KDE Desktop from Linux > server, togather. Works almost OK when I do the following: > > - Execute startxwin.bat which launches xserver as: > "run xwin -clipboard -multiwindow" > - Open ssh client terminal and connect to remote linux server > - Execute startkde from the ssh client terminal > > except for the following problem: > > The KDE Desktop occupies whole of XP screen and remains in foreground, > can not be moved and can not be iconized. So Windows becomes practically > inaccessible until I kill KDE Desktop. > > Any suggestions to make both desktops co-exist? Try omitting the -multiwindow parameter. That way, the KDE desktop will be started in one Windows window that you can manipulate normally. If you also want to open local X clients in multiwindow mode, you can start another (windowed) instance of X for your KDE desktop (i.e., use "run XWin :1.0 -clipboard") and ssh with DISPLAY set to :1.0 to start your KDE session. HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse..." -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT
Antwort: Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 22.12.2004 11:07:01: ... > > > > > > Any suggestions to make both desktops co-exist? > > > > I use bosskey (http://keir.net/booskey.html) to set up multiple virtual > > desktops in Windows. > > > Exactly what I do, except that I use Ontrack's (now V-Com) toolbar > from their Powerdesk utility. The 'picture' of the virtual desktops > lives in the Windows taskbar and applications can be dragged around in > that 'picture' from one desktop to another if necessary. ... One more: Have a look at virtuawin (http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/) Yours hjb _ Diese E-Mail wurde geprüft von Symantec Antivirus
Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 04:46:15AM -0500, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > The KDE Desktop occupies whole of XP screen and remains in foreground, > > can not be moved and can not be iconized. So Windows becomes practically > > inaccessible until I kill KDE Desktop. > > > > Any suggestions to make both desktops co-exist? > > I use bosskey (http://keir.net/booskey.html) to set up multiple virtual > desktops in Windows. > Exactly what I do, except that I use Ontrack's (now V-Com) toolbar from their Powerdesk utility. The 'picture' of the virtual desktops lives in the Windows taskbar and applications can be dragged around in that 'picture' from one desktop to another if necessary. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."
Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
>> The KDE Desktop occupies whole of XP screen and remains in foreground, >> can not be moved and can not be iconized. So Windows becomes practically >> inaccessible until I kill KDE Desktop. >> >> Any suggestions to make both desktops co-exist? > > I use bosskey (http://keir.net/booskey.html) to set up multiple virtual > desktops in Windows. Sorry, that's http://keir.net/bosskey.html.
Re: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
> The KDE Desktop occupies whole of XP screen and remains in foreground, > can not be moved and can not be iconized. So Windows becomes practically > inaccessible until I kill KDE Desktop. > > Any suggestions to make both desktops co-exist? I use bosskey (http://keir.net/booskey.html) to set up multiple virtual desktops in Windows.
RE: Having XP and KDE desktops togather
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinod Gupta > The KDE Desktop occupies whole of XP screen and remains in > foreground, can not be moved and can not be iconized. So > Windows becomes practically inaccessible until I kill KDE Desktop. > > Any suggestions to make both desktops co-exist? I am seeing slightly different behaviour to you if I use -multiwindow The various components of KDE behave independantly which makes them difficult to work with. The solution for me was to use -nodecoration (thanks Alexander) instead of -multiwindow Mike
Having XP and KDE desktops togather
My cygwin and xfree86 installed fine on my Windows XP machine. I would like to have both local XP desktop and remote KDE Desktop from Linux server, togather. Works almost OK when I do the following: - Execute startxwin.bat which launches xserver as: "run xwin -clipboard -multiwindow" - Open ssh client terminal and connect to remote linux server - Execute startkde from the ssh client terminal except for the following problem: The KDE Desktop occupies whole of XP screen and remains in foreground, can not be moved and can not be iconized. So Windows becomes practically inaccessible until I kill KDE Desktop. Any suggestions to make both desktops co-exist? Vinod
