RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Ah. I'm going to venture a guess and say that it's not simply an xterm, but an xterm running bash[*] that doesn't work, and direct you to http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_3.html#SEC48. [*] bash uses readline, and, most likely, so does the python interpreter environment (top-level?). Your guess is right. I have followed the link and adapt to my specific need but it seems that I have missed something. Accented characters are printed as if convert-meta is set to on. As an example e (e acute) is displayed as \351. These are my home configuration files # .bashrc ? alias less='less -r' alias ls='ls -F --color=tty --show-control-chars' export LANG=fr export LC_ALL=fr_CA export LC_CTYPE=iso-8859-1 export OUTPUT_CHARSET=iso-8859-1 export LESSCHARSET=iso8859 setxkbmap ca_enhanced # .inputrc set meta-flag on# enable 8-bit input set convert-meta off# don't strip 8-bit characters set input-meta on # enable 8-bit input set output-meta on # display 8-bit characters correctly Daniel Landry
RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard
Daniel, Please make sure your mailer respects the Reply-To: header -- I set it for a reason. There was no need to Cc: me -- I read the list. On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Ah. I'm going to venture a guess and say that it's not simply an xterm, but an xterm running bash[*] that doesn't work, and direct you to http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_3.html#SEC48. [*] bash uses readline, and, most likely, so does the python interpreter environment (top-level?). Your guess is right. At which point this stops being an X-related problem, and is better discussed on the main list. I've set the Reply-To: accordingly (though the xfree list is likely to add another pointing to itself). I have followed the link and adapt to my specific need but it seems that I have missed something. Accented characters are printed as if convert-meta is set to on. As an example e (e acute) is displayed as \351. Displayed by what? If you type echo é at the bash prompt, does that display properly? What about echo -e '\0351'? These are my home configuration files # .bashrc ? ^ Huh? alias less='less -r' alias ls='ls -F --color=tty --show-control-chars' export LANG=fr export LC_ALL=fr_CA export LC_CTYPE=iso-8859-1 export OUTPUT_CHARSET=iso-8859-1 export LESSCHARSET=iso8859 setxkbmap ca_enhanced # .inputrc set meta-flag on # enable 8-bit input set convert-meta off # don't strip 8-bit characters set input-meta on # enable 8-bit input set output-meta on# display 8-bit characters correctly What does bind -v | grep meta show when run from bash? Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse... -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT
RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard
In Xterm, running bash, the result is: $ echo \351 e (e acute is displayed correctly) $ bind -v | grep meta set convert-meta off set input-meta off set meta-flag off set output-meta off My complete .bashrc is (I have removed only the line beginning by #): # User dependent .bashrc file eval 'dircolors -b' alias whereis=which alias xterm='xterm -sl 5000' # Requis pour accent francais dans certaines applications alias less='less -r' alias ls='ls -F --color=tty --show-control-chars' export LANG=fr export LC_ALL=fr_CA export LC_CTYPE=iso-8859-1 export OUTPUT_CHARSET=iso-8859-1 export LESSCHARSET=iso8859 # Requis lorsque la dedection automatique de Xwin ne fonctionne pas setxkbmap ca_enhanced On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: At which point this stops being an X-related problem, and is better discussed on the main list. I've set the Reply-To: accordingly (though the xfree list is likely to add another pointing to itself). I have followed the link and adapt to my specific need but it seems that I have missed something. Accented characters are printed as if convert-meta is set to on. As an example e (e acute) is displayed as \351. Displayed by what? If you type echo e at the bash prompt, does that display properly? What about echo -e '\0351'? These are my home configuration files # .bashrc ? # .inputrc ? What does bind -v | grep meta show when run from bash?
Re: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: From /tmp/XWin.log (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 1009 (1009) (EE) Keyboardlayout Francais (Canada) (1009) is unknown The XKB layout code is ca or fr_CA From Microsoft Global Dev http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/keyboards.aspx select Canadian French I've recently added ca_enhanced as French (Canada), but from the french group (??0c) instead of the english group (??09). A few months ago I also added ca but removed it again since it did not match the actual layout. Is there a difference between those two? Which is more correct? ca, ca_enhanced or fr_CA. Judging from a short test ca_enhanced matches the layout from the website best (the key left to 1 produces / instead of # with ca). you can set the layouts with setxkbmap ca_enhanced. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: From /tmp/XWin.log (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 1009 (1009) (EE) Keyboardlayout Francais (Canada) (1009) is unknown The XKB layout code is ca or fr_CA From Microsoft Global Dev http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/keyboards.aspx select Canadian French On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Alexander Gottwald wrote: I've recently added ca_enhanced as French (Canada), but from the french group (??0c) instead of the english group (??09). A few months ago I also added ca but removed it again since it did not match the actual layout. Is there a difference between those two? Which is more correct? ca, ca_enhanced or fr_CA. Judging from a short test ca_enhanced matches the layout from the website best (the key left to 1 produces / instead of # with ca). you can set the layouts with setxkbmap ca_enhanced. Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't fix the problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by a BEEP and any character is displayed. However, I can make a cut and paste from WinXP without any problem. Concerning the key mapping, I'm using fr_CA on my Debian at home and it's working great. However, as Cygwin run on Windows, I presume that the best would be to keep the same keyboard mapping that Windows uses.
RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't fix the problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by a BEEP and any character is displayed. However, I can make a cut and paste from WinXP without any problem. ca_enhanced uses deadkeys. I get this layout (not printing modifier, backspace and stuff) #1234567890-= qwertyuiop^ asdfghjkl;` «zxcvbnm,.é ^,` are deadkeys. pressing ^ and A will compose  Concerning the key mapping, I'm using fr_CA on my Debian at home and it's working great. This must be a debian special. There is no such layout in Cygwin/X However, as Cygwin run on Windows, I presume that the best would be to keep the same keyboard mapping that Windows uses. At least in the autedetection list. You can override the defaults with the -xkblayout parameter anyway and set a different layout. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard
I'm familiar with deadkeys, but they don't work on my Cygwin installation. The e character is a special key that doesn't request any deadkey and it doesn't work either. Using any accented character give always the same result: BEEP without any character displayed. All other characters seem to work correctly. I give a try to the fr mapping with the same result. One of my co-workers has also installed Cygwin on his computer and he obtained the same results as mine. I made an upgrade this morning to be certain that I'm having the last Cygwin version. If it can help, my computer is a Dell Latitude C840. The first time that I saw the fr_CA layout on Linux was with Redhat using Xfree86 and I also recently saw it with Gentoo (2005.0) using Xorg. I'm presuming it is part of the Xfree86 and Xorg projects. You can also find a reference in the Cygwin file /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86. However, running setxkbmap fr_CA in Cygwin give Error loading new keyboard description. Note that I can adapt myself to use ca or ca_enhanced without problem. It is easy to adapt us if only few keys are to a different place. Thanks for your support -Message d'origine- De: Alexander Gottwald Date: 6 juillet 2005 14:56 A: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'; Daniel Landry Objet: RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't fix the problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by a BEEP and any character is displayed. However, I can make a cut and paste from WinXP without any problem. ca_enhanced uses deadkeys. I get this layout (not printing modifier, backspace and stuff) #1234567890-= qwertyuiop^ asdfghjkl;` zxcvbnm,.e ^,` are deadkeys. pressing ^ and A will compose A Concerning the key mapping, I'm using fr_CA on my Debian at home and it's working great. This must be a debian special. There is no such layout in Cygwin/X However, as Cygwin run on Windows, I presume that the best would be to keep the same keyboard mapping that Windows uses. At least in the autedetection list. You can override the defaults with the -xkblayout parameter anyway and set a different layout. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard
I have found my problem. I had tried cut and paste functions in Emacs but try the new keyboard mapping in Xterm. In fact, ca_enhanced keyboard was working in some application, but not on others. Emacs, vim, nano see well the new mapping. Xterm and some other applications like python interpreter environment don't see it, but I can't make any cut and paste with accented character either. I'll see case by case for the configuration of these applications but it is no more a keyboard-mapping problem. Take note also that ca_enhanced keyboard is a nice one that fit exactly with the symbol on my decking keyboard. It seems that the comment in the ca_enhanced description is right: Most of the french canadian keyboards available on PCs are mapped like this. It will be great if this mapping is selected automatically in the future. That will help the new users. Thanks again for your support. -Message d'origine- De: Daniel Landry Date: 6 juillet 2005 16:34 A: 'Alexander Gottwald'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Objet: RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard I'm familiar with deadkeys, but they don't work on my Cygwin installation. The e character is a special key that doesn't request any deadkey and it doesn't work either. Using any accented character give always the same result: BEEP without any character displayed. All other characters seem to work correctly. I give a try to the fr mapping with the same result. One of my co-workers has also installed Cygwin on his computer and he obtained the same results as mine. I made an upgrade this morning to be certain that I'm having the last Cygwin version. If it can help, my computer is a Dell Latitude C840. The first time that I saw the fr_CA layout on Linux was with Redhat using Xfree86 and I also recently saw it with Gentoo (2005.0) using Xorg. I'm presuming it is part of the Xfree86 and Xorg projects. You can also find a reference in the Cygwin file /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86. However, running setxkbmap fr_CA in Cygwin give Error loading new keyboard description. Note that I can adapt myself to use ca or ca_enhanced without problem. It is easy to adapt us if only few keys are to a different place. Thanks for your support -Message d'origine- De: Alexander Gottwald Date: 6 juillet 2005 14:56 A: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'; Daniel Landry Objet: RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't fix the problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by a BEEP and any character is displayed. However, I can make a cut and paste from WinXP without any problem. ca_enhanced uses deadkeys. I get this layout (not printing modifier, backspace and stuff) #1234567890-= qwertyuiop^ asdfghjkl;` zxcvbnm,.e ^,` are deadkeys. pressing ^ and A will compose A Concerning the key mapping, I'm using fr_CA on my Debian at home and it's working great. This must be a debian special. There is no such layout in Cygwin/X However, as Cygwin run on Windows, I presume that the best would be to keep the same keyboard mapping that Windows uses. At least in the autedetection list. You can override the defaults with the -xkblayout parameter anyway and set a different layout. bye ago -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard
Ugh, top-posting. Reformatted. On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: -Message d'origine- De: Daniel Landry Date: 6 juillet 2005 16:34 A:'Alexander Gottwald'; 'cygwin-xfreeatcygwin.com' Also, http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR. Thanks. -Message d'origine- De: Alexander Gottwald Date: 6 juillet 2005 14:56 On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't fix the problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by a BEEP and any character is displayed. However, I can make a cut and paste from WinXP without any problem. ca_enhanced uses deadkeys. ^,` are deadkeys. pressing ^ and A will compose A [snip] I'm familiar with deadkeys, but they don't work on my Cygwin installation. The e character is a special key that doesn't request any deadkey and it doesn't work either. Using any accented character give always the same result: BEEP without any character displayed. All other characters seem to work correctly. I give a try to the fr mapping with the same result. One of my co-workers has also installed Cygwin on his computer and he obtained the same results as mine. I made an upgrade this morning to be certain that I'm having the last Cygwin version. If it can help, my computer is a Dell Latitude C840. [snip] I have found my problem. I had tried cut and paste functions in Emacs but try the new keyboard mapping in Xterm. In fact, ca_enhanced keyboard was working in some application, but not on others. Emacs, vim, nano see well the new mapping. Xterm and some other applications like python interpreter environment don't see it, but I can't make any cut and paste with accented character either. I'll see case by case for the configuration of these applications but it is no more a keyboard-mapping problem. [snip] Ah. I'm going to venture a guess and say that it's not simply an xterm, but an xterm running bash[*] that doesn't work, and direct you to http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_3.html#SEC48. HTH, Igor [*] bash uses readline, and, most likely, so does the python interpreter environment (top-level?). -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse... -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT
