Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?

2002-10-02 Thread Alexander Gottwald

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote:

 Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm
 trying to write some beginner programs.  When I compile using gcc I get a
 message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions.
 I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help.  Any
 suggestions?  Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in
 the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's?

bye
ago
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RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?

2002-10-02 Thread Lane, Frank L

OK.  If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I
go to ask them?

Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious
from the project page description.

Thanks,
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Gottwald
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Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?


On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote:

 Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X,
I'm
 trying to write some beginner programs.  When I compile using gcc I get a
 message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions.
 I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help.
Any
 suggestions?  Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is
in
 the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's?

bye
ago
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RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?

2002-10-02 Thread Alexander Gottwald

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote:

 OK.  If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I
 go to ask them?

Oops. Sorry. The editor must have eaten some lines. So I try again:

Use -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11.

Sorry,
ago
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Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?

2002-10-02 Thread Harold L Hunt II

Frank,

I think Alexander probably hit the send button before he was finished 
writing a reply (or, in this case, before he even started).  He signs 
all of his emails with ``bye [return] ago'', so I am guessing that he 
has this in a signature file that automatically gets added to the end of 
the emails that he writes.  The ``bye'' is because he is a native German 
speaker and lots of Germans use ``bye'' as their closing... that is just 
a cultural thing.  You should hear them speak it... they say it very 
politely, not curtly like it may seem in email.

Anyway, your questions are valid here, just wait until someone answers them.

Harold

Lane, Frank L wrote:
 OK.  If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I
 go to ask them?
 
 Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious
 from the project page description.
 
 Thanks,
 Frank
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alexander Gottwald
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?
 
 
 On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote:
 
 
Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X,
 
 I'm
 
trying to write some beginner programs.  When I compile using gcc I get a
message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions.
I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help.
 
 Any
 
suggestions?  Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is
 
 in
 
the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's?
 
 
 bye
   ago




RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?

2002-10-02 Thread Jean-Claude Gervais

Hi Frank,


This list is really all about the Cygwin implementation of X and issues
concerning that.

If you have generic questions about X development, www.x.org might be a
place to start. The comp.windows.x newsgroup might have some people on it
that could help you.

As an aside, your question about linking X calls to your cygwin app does
seem legit to me, but I cannot answer it. Sorry.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Lane, Frank L
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:19 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?

OK.  If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I
go to ask them?

Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious
from the project page description.

Thanks,
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Gottwald
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Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?


On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote:

 Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X,
I'm
 trying to write some beginner programs.  When I compile using gcc I get a
 message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions.
 I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help.
Any
 suggestions?  Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is
in
 the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's?

bye
ago
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RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?

2002-10-02 Thread Lane, Frank L

Thanks to all, please excuse my whining.

Gawd I love this stuff!:-)

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Jean-Claude Gervais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?


Hi Frank,


This list is really all about the Cygwin implementation of X and
issues
concerning that.

If you have generic questions about X development, www.x.org might
be a
place to start. The comp.windows.x newsgroup might have some people on it
that could help you.

As an aside, your question about linking X calls to your cygwin app
does
seem legit to me, but I cannot answer it. Sorry.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Lane, Frank L
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:19 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?

OK.  If my questions about xfree aren't welcome on this list where should I
go to ask them?

Also, the fact that new user questions aren't welcome here is not obvious
from the project page description.

Thanks,
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Gottwald
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:13 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?


On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Lane, Frank L wrote:

 Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X,
I'm
 trying to write some beginner programs.  When I compile using gcc I get a
 message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions.
 I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help.
Any
 suggestions?  Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is
in
 the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's?

bye
ago
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Re: How do you gentleuser's start your X stuff?

2002-10-02 Thread Harold L Hunt II

Frank,

There is information in the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide that describes 
your different options for starting Cygwin/XFree86:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting


Window resizing and scrollbars are both controlled by the X ``window 
manager''.  You are looking for something that we are all always looking 
for, the unobtainable ``better window manager''.  However, there are 
several other options for a window manager that you can try out without 
much work.  Just rerun Cygwin's setup.exe and look under the XFree86 
category --- there are a few window managers listed there (MWM is in the 
Lesstif package, openbox, window-maker, etc.).  You can edit 
startxwin.bat (which is, by the way, the recommended way to start 
Cygwin/XFree86) and replace the line that starts ``twm'' with one of the 
others that you have installed, e.g., ``mwm''.  Each window manager has 
its own quirks and bugs (some of them don't work correctly when the 
NumLock key is on, etc.).  Choosing a window manager is a highly 
personal thing so that is about all the help that I can give you.  I am 
sure that others will chime in with links to their favorite WMs now.  :)

Harold


Lane, Frank L wrote:
 Hello again,
 
 I'm managing to take a couple of steps a day.  One thing I stumbled across
 the other day is the startx command.  I use this to work.  I've noticed that
 my windows are not resizable and do not have scrollbars.  Is there a better
 way to kickoff X?
 
 Second question, as I'm interested in learning everything I can about X, I'm
 trying to write some beginner programs.  When I compile using gcc I get a
 message about unresolved calls to _XSimpleWindow and some other functions.
 I've tried including -L/usr/X11R6/bin/libX11.dll but that doesn't help.  Any
 suggestions?  Is there anyway I can see if the function xsimplewindow is in
 the libX11.dll or what files exist in what dll's?
 
 Thanks,
 Frank