Re: What is a good Windows Manager for cygwin/XFree86
The best window manager might be no window manager at all. If you start XWin.exe with the command line option -multiwindow, then you won't need a window manager. Instead, your X11 applications will all appear in separate windows, managed by Microsoft Windows. The cygwin guys have done a lot of work recently cleaning this feature up. It is now pretty good.
What is a good Windows Manager for cygwin/XFree86
I want to find a basic windows manager the supports: resize, move, minimize, maximize Seems like a pretty basic request, but I have tried twm, mwm, and fvwm2. fvwm2 is the most functional for me, but it does not have min/max. What windows manager provides the above in a cygwin/XFree86 env. Thanks Greg -- Greg Freemyer
Re: Windows Manager
couldn't that be output on stderr/stdout ? However, you may be surprised at the result of invoking XWin -help, which is to say you'll see no output (nor will the X server start up). The help output _is_ produced, but it goes into /tmp/XWin.log (!) I hope that helps, especially by adding to your repertoire of self-help techniques. Randall Schulz At 06:42 2002-12-19, Martín De Marchi wrote: Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? Thanks. = Sylvain Petreolle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 Don't think you are. Know you are. Morpheus in Matrix, chapter 15. ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Windows Manager
* Mart?n De Marchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-12-19 14:42:36 +]: Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? Yes. -- John Buttery (Web page temporarily unavailable) msg04523/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windows Manager
Martin, When I need to know about command-line options or environment variables that are not documented or for commands for which documentation is not available or at hand, I do something like this: % strings /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe |egrep -e -rootless -rootless EXPERIMENTAL: Run the server in pseudo-rootless mode. -rootless Here it appears both the strings from the argument processing code and the usage message are found. This, then, suggests that there is a help message available. This command: % strings /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin.exe |egrep -e ^- produces 123 lines, including this one: -help prints message with these options (Note that this particular program does not abide by the POSIX conventions stipulating the use of two hyphens for multiple-character option names.) However, you may be surprised at the result of invoking XWin -help, which is to say you'll see no output (nor will the X server start up). The help output _is_ produced, but it goes into /tmp/XWin.log (!) I hope that helps, especially by adding to your repertoire of self-help techniques. Randall Schulz At 06:42 2002-12-19, Martín De Marchi wrote: Is -rootless a XWin.exe parameter? Thanks.
Re: Windows Manager
You need rootless mode (add -rootless to X server command-line). It's not perfect (main window still exist, though invisible; you still need to launch some X11 window manager to draw window borders); multiwindow mode should provide seamless X11/Windows integraton when it is finished. Martín De Marchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is any way to hide de X window ? That is, I want launch the remote program from a dos command line (cmd.exe) via ssh and I want see only the windows of this program and not the X main window... Can I make this? -- With regards, Roman.
Re: Windows Manager
Martín De Marchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I launch the remote program from a cygwin shell (cygwin.bat) or a dos shell (not a XWindows session, startxwin.bat) ? I try it in both ways and the message program: cannot connect to X sever is showed... There is any way for configure the X and launch the remote programs from a dos shell? You should set DISPLAY environemnt variable to correct value, e.g. set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cmd.exe) or export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cygwin shell) -- With regards, Roman.
Re: Windows Manager
Thanks Roman! Other question... There is any way to hide de X window ? That is, I want launch the remote program from a dos command line (cmd.exe) via ssh and I want see only the windows of this program and not the X main window... Can I make this? Thanks for the help! Martín. Roman Belenov wrote: Martín De Marchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I launch the remote program from a cygwin shell (cygwin.bat) or a dos shell (not a XWindows session, startxwin.bat) ? I try it in both ways and the message program: cannot connect to X sever is showed... There is any way for configure the X and launch the remote programs from a dos shell? You should set DISPLAY environemnt variable to correct value, e.g. set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cmd.exe) or export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 (in cygwin shell) -- With regards, Roman.
Re: Windows Manager
Thanks Harold and Cary for the answers. I have other questions... Can I launch the remote program from a cygwin shell (cygwin.bat) or a dos shell (not a XWindows session, startxwin.bat) ? I try it in both ways and the message program: cannot connect to X sever is showed... There is any way for configure the X and launch the remote programs from a dos shell? Thanks! Martín. Cary Jamison wrote: I believe Harold was referring to the first part of your question, only. To use a remote font server, use -fp. An example is in the FAQ (though not obvious to find) - http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-solaris-fonts Cary Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Martin, You cannot. Not yet, at least. We are getting closer to having this feature. Follow the mailing list or the announcement mailing list for notification of when a release is made. Harold -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martín De Marchi Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windows Manager Hello! For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my Windows system? I have any problems of fonts visualisation... How I can configure X so that use the server of fonts of the remote system? Thanks! Martín.
Re: Windows Manager
I believe Harold was referring to the first part of your question, only. To use a remote font server, use -fp. An example is in the FAQ (though not obvious to find) - http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-solaris-fonts Cary Harold L Hunt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Martin, You cannot. Not yet, at least. We are getting closer to having this feature. Follow the mailing list or the announcement mailing list for notification of when a release is made. Harold -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martín De Marchi Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windows Manager Hello! For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my Windows system? I have any problems of fonts visualisation... How I can configure X so that use the server of fonts of the remote system? Thanks! Martín.
Windows Manager
Hello! For default, when I execute the startxwin.bat file, the twm windows manager is loaded... How I can configure X to use the windows of my Windows system? I have any problems of fonts visualisation... How I can configure X so that use the server of fonts of the remote system? Thanks! Martín.
Re: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
Hi, Sorry for the delay of my reply... As you can see it, WindowsXP enlightens the system buttons when the mouse pointer is on those. Line n°2 of the png file: the mouse pointer is on the 'close' button. Line n°3 of the png file: the mouse ponter is on the 'shrink' button, - Message d'origine - De : Harold Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : Philippe Bastiani [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cygx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mardi 14 mai 2002 04:12 Objet : RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Philippe, You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give a heck of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two that show a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You can copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows XP with Alt+PrintScreen. Harold -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philippe Bastiani Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM To: Cygwin Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Hi, On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen seem non standard ! Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified when the mouse pointer is on these! Philippe Bastiani toto.PNG Description: PNG image
Re: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
Philippe, Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's not a mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. Harold Philippe Bastiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, Sorry for the delay of my reply... As you can see it, WindowsXP enlightens the system buttons when the mouse pointer is on those. Line n°2 of the png file: the mouse pointer is on the 'close' button. Line n°3 of the png file: the mouse ponter is on the 'shrink' button, - Message d'origine - De : Harold Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : Philippe Bastiani [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cygx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mardi 14 mai 2002 04:12 Objet : RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Philippe, You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give a heck of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two that show a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You can copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows XP with Alt+PrintScreen. Harold -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philippe Bastiani Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM To: Cygwin Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Hi, On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen seem non standard ! Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified when the mouse pointer is on these! Philippe Bastiani
RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's not a mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. In the first column (cygwin/xfree86) there is a mouse cursor in the 2nd and 3rd shots...twm just kinda sucks that way (in the 2nd shot, look at the large x just above the fermer tool tip). -Richard Campbell.
Re: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
People, For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. Thanks, Nicholas --- Harold L Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philippe, Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's not a mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. Harold Philippe Bastiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, Sorry for the delay of my reply... As you can see it, WindowsXP enlightens the system buttons when the mouse pointer is on those. Line n°2 of the png file: the mouse pointer is on the 'close' button. Line n°3 of the png file: the mouse ponter is on the 'shrink' button, - Message d'origine - De : Harold Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : Philippe Bastiani [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cygx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mardi 14 mai 2002 04:12 Objet : RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Philippe, You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give a heck of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two that show a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You can copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows XP with Alt+PrintScreen. Harold -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philippe Bastiani Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM To: Cygwin Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Hi, On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen seem non standard ! Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified when the mouse pointer is on these! Philippe Bastiani __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Re: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
Nicholas Wourms wrote: People, For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. actually, bzip2 would probably not do a very good job compressing a png. (I said PROBABLY. No need to post 27 counterexamples). However, pngcrush would probably help. --Chuck
RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
Philippe forgot to cc the mailing list on this one. Harold -Original Message- From: Philippe Bastiani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:25 PM To: Harold L Hunt Subject: Re: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Hi, Did you hide the mouse cursor when you took the screenshots? There's not a mouse cursor anywhere in any of those screenshots... I need to see that Cygwin/XFree86 is indeed hiding/unhiding the mouse cursor correctly. The 'Print Screen' command of WinXP hides the mouse pointer :) Cygwin/XFree86 hides/unhides the cursor correctly :) a+ Philippe
Re: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
At 13:13 2002-06-06, Nicholas Wourms wrote: People, For the love of God, bzip2 is there for a reason, please use it. Some of us have high mail volume and low mailbox quotas. Thanks, Nicholas Nicholas, Witness: % bzip2 -k toto.PNG % ls -l toto.PNG toto.PNG.bz2 -rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None22747 Jun 6 13:30 toto.PNG* -rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None22450 Jun 6 13:30 toto.PNG.bz2 Less than 300 bytes save. More would be saved by appropriate trimming of quoted message bodies. Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA
Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
Hi, On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen seem non standard ! Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified when the mouse pointer is on these! Philippe Bastiani
RE: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ?
Philippe, You're the first person to complain and you're going to have to give a heck of a lot more details than that if I'm ever going to look into it. Screenshots. I want screenshots. You'll need at least four: two that show a working window, and two that show Cygwin/XFree86's behavior. Make them PNGs, not JPGs, as I want to be able to look at them. You can copy a screenshot to the clipboard of the current window in Windows XP with Alt+PrintScreen. Harold -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philippe Bastiani Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 PM To: Cygwin Subject: Possible bug of the M$ windows manager ? or, XFree bug ? Hi, On Windows XP, the buttons of the titles bar of XFree86 screen seem non standard ! Normally, the drawing of the system buttons should be modified when the mouse pointer is on these! Philippe Bastiani
