Re: my 3 heads = apps in the dead zone
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, Chris Green wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 09:51:12AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > > > > Is this a problem with the app, cygwin/x, x.org, Win or my config? > > > > Ultimately, window placement is the responsibility of the window manager. > > However, most window managers assume a single rectangular desktop area. > > Hmph, not any more according to most 'modern' window manager > programmers. I've had this discussion with two lots of developers of > same and both have now given up any support for positioning of windows > through the window manager. At least user control of where the window > is positioned is no longer done using the window manager > configuration. This does not contradict what I said. Even if all the window manager does is pass the user's preference of where to place the window directly to the X server, it's still up to the window manager to act as a liaison to the server. If there is no user preference specified, the window manager should be the one placing the window (even if it just defaults to (0,0)). I'd be happier to find out that some window manager does support irregularly shaped displays (and even happier to know that someone was working on getting the windows native WM to support them). :-) Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: my 3 heads = apps in the dead zone
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 09:51:12AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > > Is this a problem with the app, cygwin/x, x.org, Win or my config? > > Ultimately, window placement is the responsibility of the window manager. > However, most window managers assume a single rectangular desktop area. > Hmph, not any more according to most 'modern' window manager programmers. I've had this discussion with two lots of developers of same and both have now given up any support for positioning of windows through the window manager. At least user control of where the window is positioned is no longer done using the window manager configuration. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: my 3 heads = apps in the dead zone
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, Carl Karsten wrote: > I am running cygwin/x on a 3 head win box: 21" is main, 2 17's are > stacked to the right. so the 3 look like these dots .: > > or like this > > [17] > [21][17] > > When I start an app, it creates its window in the "dead zone" where > there is no monitor - like this: > > app[17] > [21][17] > > I can tell that's where it is because I can right click the XWin task > bar button, hit "move", hold down the DownArrow key and the app's window > will come into view from the top of the 21. If I run the app, right > click, move and use RightArrow, the window comes into view at the left > side of the top 17. > > Is this a problem with the app, cygwin/x, x.org, Win or my config? Ultimately, window placement is the responsibility of the window manager. However, most window managers assume a single rectangular desktop area. If the window manager did support irregular desktop shapes, I'd say it would be arguably a problem of the multimonitor mode of Cygwin/X, in that it doesn't detect the "dead area". However, I'm not sure other X implementations support irregular geometry displays. As a workaround, many X apps support the -geometry option (xterm/rxvt certainly do). This allows you to specify the starting position (and size) of the application window. You may also be able to configure either the application or some window manager to compute the default position at negative offsets (i.e., at the bottom-right of the display area). Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
my 3 heads = apps in the dead zone
I am running cygwin/x on a 3 head win box: 21" is main, 2 17's are stacked to the right. so the 3 look like these dots .: or like this [17] [21][17] When I start an app, it creates its window in the "dead zone" where there is no monitor - like this: app[17] [21][17] I can tell that's where it is because I can right click the XWin task bar button, hit "move", hold down the DownArrow key and the app's window will come into view from the top of the 21. If I run the app, right click, move and use RightArrow, the window comes into view at the left side of the top 17. Is this a problem with the app, cygwin/x, x.org, Win or my config? ^Carl Karsten -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
