Re: running CygwinX with a limited user account
Igor Peshansky wrote: For each user, execute mount -u SOMEUSERSPECIFICDIR /tmp (as man mount would have told you). Are we sure that this works with startxwin.bat ? Some time ago I tried to mount /tmp in an user directory (I used also %TEMP%, i.e. C:\Doc...\%USERNAME%\..\Temp) but it did not worked with startxwin.bat: it tries to remove \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 which, apparently, does not know about the mount. Instead the mount works fine if one uses startx or startxwin.sh! But in these cases one should first start cygwin.bat and the possibility to start the X server from a link on the desktop is more hard. Cheers, angelo. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: running CygwinX with a limited user account
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Angelo Graziosi wrote: Igor Peshansky wrote: For each user, execute mount -u SOMEUSERSPECIFICDIR /tmp (as man mount would have told you). Are we sure that this works with startxwin.bat ? Some time ago I tried to mount /tmp in an user directory (I used also %TEMP%, i.e. C:\Doc...\%USERNAME%\..\Temp) but it did not worked with startxwin.bat: it tries to remove \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 which, apparently, does not know about the mount. Right. One could rewrite startxwin.bat to do that using cmd.exe extended syntax, but then it'd stop working on Win9x. Alternatively, use 'rm -f' instead of 'del', and it should understand the mount just fine. Instead the mount works fine if one uses startx or startxwin.sh! Yes, because you're running from a Cygwin shell. But in these cases one should first start cygwin.bat and the possibility to start the X server from a link on the desktop is more hard. Just put 'c:\cygwin\bin\bash --login -c /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh' in the desktop shortcut. HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!) |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' old name: Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte. But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in that! -- Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: running CygwinX with a limited user account
I am getting the same error as Bart, and I have diagnosed the problem, but I do not know how to completely fix it. Problem #1: XWin uses the same log file name in /tmp for all users. Limited users cannot overwrite or remove administrator log files, so startxwin.bat fails. Workaround #1: Update startxwin.bat to use -logfile /tmp/xwin-%USERNAME%.log Problem #2: /tmp/.X11-unix is created with the sticky bit set. Limited users cannot overwrite X0. Workaround #1: As admin, remove sticky bit from /tmp/.X11-unix. This is not a completely acceptable solution, because the sticky bit is replaced every time an admin logs into the machine. Setting up Cygwin so that each user had their own /tmp dir sounds like a better workaround for both problems, but I have not yet figured out how to do that. In the long run, the Cygwin/X11 distribution should work for limited users out-of-the-box. Thanks On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Bart Bacon wrote: To the Gurus of CygwinX, I've noticed that in order to run CygwinX on separate accounts on the same machine, all users must have computer administrator privileges under the Windows XP Professional operating system. Is there any work around to allow users with limited privileges (such as my daughter) to access CygwinX? Cygwin does not seem to have this problem. Thanks for a great product and hopefully a response to this question. It would help to know exactly what error messages you're getting from the limited account, but it sounds like the problem of not being able to overwrite either /tmp/.X11-unix or /tmp/XWin.log. X creates a directory in /tmp that is owned by the last user who ran X (and, of course, so is the log file). The next user may need to have administrative privileges to overwrite the directory and log. One possible solution is to have a different /tmp for your daughter's account -- see man mount for user mounts. Let us know if it helps. If not, please give a better description of your problem, with the steps to reproduce it and the error messages you see. HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: running CygwinX with a limited user account
Hi, Please make sure your mailer respects the Reply-To: header -- I set it for a reason. On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, J Jude wrote: [snip] Setting up Cygwin so that each user had their own /tmp dir sounds like a better workaround for both problems, but I have not yet figured out how to do that. For each user, execute mount -u SOMEUSERSPECIFICDIR /tmp (as man mount would have told you). In the long run, the Cygwin/X11 distribution should work for limited users out-of-the-box. I don't think Cygwin/X was ever designed to run by multiple users simultaneously. HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!) |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' old name: Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte. But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in that! -- Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: running CygwinX with a limited user account
JJ In the long run, the Cygwin/X11 distribution should work for limited JJ users out-of-the-box. IP I don't think Cygwin/X was ever designed to run by multiple users IP simultaneously. We're not talking about simultaneously. In the simple case, we're talking about a user logging in as administrator to do some system task, then logging out and logging in to a limited user account for other tasks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: running CygwinX with a limited user account
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, J Jude wrote: JJ In the long run, the Cygwin/X11 distribution should work for limited JJ users out-of-the-box. IP I don't think Cygwin/X was ever designed to run by multiple users IP simultaneously. We're not talking about simultaneously. In the simple case, we're talking about a user logging in as administrator to do some system task, then logging out and logging in to a limited user account for other tasks. I understood that. I was debating with myself whether to expand on what I said or not -- guess I should have. By simultaneously I meant from the same installation (yes, I know, poor choice of words). Actually, I believe the only thing that's messing it up is /tmp/XWin.log (which is a Cygwin/X invention -- Linux creates a display-specific file in /var/log instead). The socket is actually already display-specific, and the only thing wrong with it is that Cygwin/X chooses display :0 by default, and that clashes with the socket (it's debatable whether it should try to find the next available display number or not). Theoretically, Cygwin/X should also clean up the socket after itself. Neither a display-specific log file nor socket cleanup happen in Cygwin/X. I suppose someone has to do it, and patches would be welcome upstream, but we are currently missing a Cygwin/X maintainer, so it's unlikely that anything will be done about this until we get one. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!) |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' old name: Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte. But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in that! -- Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: running CygwinX with a limited user account
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Igor Peshansky wrote: On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, J Jude wrote: JJ In the long run, the Cygwin/X11 distribution should work for JJ limited users out-of-the-box. IP I don't think Cygwin/X was ever designed to run by multiple users IP simultaneously. We're not talking about simultaneously. In the simple case, we're talking about a user logging in as administrator to do some system task, then logging out and logging in to a limited user account for other tasks. I understood that. I was debating with myself whether to expand on what I said or not -- guess I should have. By simultaneously I meant from the same installation (yes, I know, poor choice of words). Actually, I believe the only thing that's messing it up is /tmp/XWin.log (which is a Cygwin/X invention -- Linux creates a display-specific file in /var/log instead). The socket is actually already display-specific, and the only thing wrong with it is that Cygwin/X chooses display :0 by default, and that clashes with the socket (it's debatable whether it ^ causes name should try to find the next available display number or not). Theoretically, Cygwin/X should also clean up the socket after itself. Neither a display-specific log file nor socket cleanup happen in Cygwin/X. I suppose someone has to do it, and patches would be welcome upstream, but we are currently missing a Cygwin/X maintainer, so it's unlikely that anything will be done about this until we get one. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!) |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' old name: Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte. But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in that! -- Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
running CygwinX with a limited user account
To the Gurus of CygwinX, I've noticed that in order to run CygwinX on separate accounts on the same machine, all users must have computer administrator privileges under the Windows XP Professional operating system. Is there any work around to allow users with limited privileges (such as my daughter) to access CygwinX? Cygwin does not seem to have this problem. Thanks for a great product and hopefully a response to this question. Bart Bacon -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: running CygwinX with a limited user account
I am running cygwin/X under XP/Pro power user not administrator and I have no problems (with cygwin/X, i.e.). However, I am connoisseur of all but guru of none. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bart Bacon Sent: Tue, September 20, 2005 1:28 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: running CygwinX with a limited user account To the Gurus of CygwinX, I've noticed that in order to run CygwinX on separate accounts on the same machine, all users must have computer administrator privileges under the Windows XP Professional operating system. Is there any work around to allow users with limited privileges (such as my daughter) to access CygwinX? Cygwin does not seem to have this problem. Thanks for a great product and hopefully a response to this question. Bart Bacon \ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: running CygwinX with a limited user account
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Bart Bacon wrote: To the Gurus of CygwinX, I've noticed that in order to run CygwinX on separate accounts on the same machine, all users must have computer administrator privileges under the Windows XP Professional operating system. Is there any work around to allow users with limited privileges (such as my daughter) to access CygwinX? Cygwin does not seem to have this problem. Thanks for a great product and hopefully a response to this question. It would help to know exactly what error messages you're getting from the limited account, but it sounds like the problem of not being able to overwrite either /tmp/.X11-unix or /tmp/XWin.log. X creates a directory in /tmp that is owned by the last user who ran X (and, of course, so is the log file). The next user may need to have administrative privileges to overwrite the directory and log. One possible solution is to have a different /tmp for your daughter's account -- see man mount for user mounts. Let us know if it helps. If not, please give a better description of your problem, with the steps to reproduce it and the error messages you see. HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
