Re: Patents

2000-06-25 Thread Carol Braddock

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A take on the patent of hyperlinks can be found at:

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa070100a.htm

Carol Anne Cypherpunk
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Re: Fw: (Fwd) Statement from Janet Reno

2000-06-25 Thread David Marshall

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> > > >  "A Cultist is one who has a strong belief in the Bible and the
> > Second
> > > >   Coming of Christ; who frequently attends Bible studies; who has a high
> > > >   level of financial giving to a Christian cause; who home schools for
> > > >   their children; who has accumulated survival foods and has a strong
> > > >   belief in the Second Amendment; and who distrusts big  government.
> > Any

This is one of those things which is just "too good to be true" in a
certain sense, and like most things which are too good to be true, it
is. 

In any case, it doesn't matter. Even if this had actually occured, the
act of calling these people "cultists" doesn't change the facts. It
just dilutes the meaning of "cultist." It also confuses the two terms,
similar to how saying "abortion is murder" over and over again tends
to alter the meanings of both "abortion" and "murder" in the minds of
the mentally feeble who, unfortunately, seem to comprise the majority
of the human population. (How else can 90% of the advertising out
there actually yield results?)

> I qualify for first two (maybe 3 depening on what you call high level) and
> definitly the last one, does that make me cultist ? Maybe i should chnage
> my name to mother shabooboo and start to spam the list for contributions
> to my interstellar UFO building project ? ;)
> 
> I suppose given the things reno has said in the past, a statemnt with this
> much ignorance in one sentence is hardly surprising. 

It also didn't happen, but yes, it's hardly surprising. 

> 
> Luckily i dont live in the US. 
> 
> BTW what is the 2nd amendment to the US constitution ??

The right to keep and bear arms.

> 
> Does this sort of statement scare anybody else ?

Yes, were it true. It's scary that our government has degraded to the
point where this kind of thing is believable by a lot of the
population, though.








Re: economics of MicroMint

2000-06-25 Thread Ben Laurie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > It's "MicroMint", by the way, Adam.
> 
> Doh!  I know that.  (Excuse the braino -- the landscape is littered
> with dozens of epayments candidates with similar vaguely currency
> related names, to the point of name confusion).
> 
> > Which, besides the fact that it's the only currently available
> > method for generating economically non-forgeable streaming bearer
> > coins at transaction sizes of $0.001, (a 10th of a penny for those
> > of you Rio Linda) or less, is why we're looking at using it at the
> > Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation.
> 
> It could be that there are patent issues I am not considering.  But
> for example in the same paper that they present MicroMint, Rivest &
> Shamir discuss PayWord, which sounds a much more economically viable
> system using signatures and hashchains.  You can tune the size of the
> signatures down if individual signed values are very low value, buy
> hardware accelerators, optionally use elliptic curve to speed things
> up perhaps.

As I calculated for EFCE, 512-bit Lucre signatures _in Java 1.1_ on a
P2/300 cost .4p each to generate (naturally we don't care how much
the blinding costs, because the mint doesn't have to do it, but its of
the same order, of course). I'd say that was economically non-forgeable
for $0.001 transactions, and a damn sight more robust than MicroMint.
Even at 1024 bits, $0.01 is economic. And they aren't going to become
vapour-money in the forseeable future.

Cheers,

Ben.

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