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Re: Xtians vs. XORtians
Tim May sayeth: > A very good reason to keep the Jesus freaks out of the business of > defining rights. Left up to them, "worshipping other gods" would > indeed be a crime. (It almost was, in the U.S.) Oh, but they have, they have indeed! Consider that *ALL* religions of *ALL* cultures began originally with shamanism. And consider that all shamans use psychoactive plants. And that the Aztec and Maya, for instance, had over 400 deities devoted to psychoactive plants. And that today a major world religion like Hinduism uses cannabis as a sacrement, as do Rastafarians. Remember too, that Native Americans were oredered to stop all of their religious ceremonies, the Sundance was stopped, the Ghost Dancers massacred at Wounded Knee and elsewhere. Remeber Waco? The Christians have continually persecuted and outlawed other religions. Their sacrement, alcohol, is legal, all other sacrements illegal. They even made it illegal to bring up the subject of religious sacremental use in legal proceedings -- a complete travesty of the 1st Amendment. "Burn de' priest, burn de' Church, burn de' Pope -- Burn Babylon!" Rasta Elder
/dev/random (Re: deriving yarrow test vectors)
Eric wrote: > Adam wrote: > > There is for example code in PGP which looks at inter key press > > timings, and constructs 1st and 2nd order differentials to try to > > avoid stuck keys, people pressing the same key repeatedly etc. > > There's also the code in the linux /dev/random implementation, which > keeps a running estimate of the entropy that's beeing added > to the random pool, a byte at a time. Yes. /dev/random does entropy counting in bits. I've got a small test program which uses the /dev/random ioctl interface specified in /usr/include/linux/random.h, and you can do fun things with it like zero the pool out, or zero the pool counter (as root), and watch the entropy count grow as you press keys and swirl the mouse. I think I found a sort of bug in that if you hold a key down, the entropy count increases rapidly, and yet the only entropy it will be getting in this circumstance is the clock jitter. You can see the effect if you do: % od -x < /dev/random and hold down for example the control key, or any other key. You get a continuous stream of output while you hold the key down. This applies whether or not you are using X. It's a bug in the sense of over-estimation of entropy. I haven't looked what the clock jitter looks like, but it may be pretty quantized and yet still pass the timer differential tests of in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/random.c. The timer is pretty high resolution. I think it would be more secure to examine the scan code and discount the entropy estimate for the sample if it came from the same key. It outputs bytes at pretty high rates if you move the mouse also. Adam
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The following news excerpt is one reason corporations should start using verifiable digital signatures. It would be quite reasonable for business news reporting systems to either verify the signatures themselves, and report the releases as valid (*), or for institution and even personal investors to check the signatures. Public keys for companies like Emulex could be posted at their Web sites, even on their stock ticker pages (at Yahoo, CNBC, etc.) (* there's always the issue of trusting the public key, as Web pages can be hacked to insert other keys. But this should be a fractional problem compared to what we see here, and solvable in various ways.) -- begin excerpt-- NEW YORK (Reuters) - An official at data network equipment maker Emulex Corp. (NasdaqNM:EMLX - news) said the company had been the victim of a hoax press release that said the company was restating its earnings, causing the company's shares to plummet more than 50 percent. ``We have not put out a company press release today,'' said Kirk Roller, senior vice president of sales and marketing. ''Someone put out a release that looks like an Emulex release, using the Emulex name and logo.'' Bill Meehan, chief market analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald said the fake statement said the chief executive officer had resigned and the company had been forced to restate 1998 and 1999 earnings and revise the fourth-quarter to a loss from a gain. Shares dove, and were down 48-1/16 at 65 when they were halted for trade at about 10:30. -- -:-:-:-:-:-:-: Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
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Title: Police will generally NOT like privacy technology This is an important distinction which many people forget (it was also brought up in an well-written NYTimes article a while back ... forget who the author was): Police (including the FBI) generally get there too late; they do not show up until a crime has been committed. Most of us would rather that the crime NOT be committed in the first place. This usually means things like locks and other protection mechanism which could some times get in the way of police trying to perform investigative work AFTER the fact. This is why many crimes are not really crimes about damage or harm, but the "potential" or "imminently likelihood" of damage or harm. For example, you don't get busted for speeding because you have harmed some other driver; you get busted because you are supposedly "more likely" to cause harm when you exceed the speed limit. You are still busted AFTER you have been speeding, but in theory, this will happen BEFORE you cause genuine harm. Whether this sort of preemptive strike is reasonable, rationale or Constitutional is subject of another debate. Ern -Original Message- From: Tim May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: SF Internet self-defense course As for the "cops will defend it" point, this is naive. Cops make busts, they don't "defend" rights.
Re: Re: SF Internet self-defense course
At 12:25 PM -0700 8/24/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: >On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Tim May wrote: > >>Having Cypherpunks meetings inside the belly of the beast may strike >>some as a great irony, but it was what Mike the Computer would call a >>"funny once." >> >>I strongly, strongly urge Cypherpunks to "just say no" to meetings >>held at cop centers, whether these centers are the Campaign for >>Marijuans Eradication chopper landing site, the Regional Citizen-Unit >>Retraining Center, or the Hoover Building. >> >>Cops are _not_ our friends. Anyone who thinks otherwise, in the >>context of freedom and crypto anarchy, is a fool. > >Mister Tim, > > I have to say I don't agree with you. I don't see the Cypherpunks >list as an association of criminals. I don't have a problem with >the idea of teaching ordinary people to use crypto to protect >themselves from ripoff artists, criminals, and spies. I see the >police as a natural ally in any 'defense of sheeple' activities >folk undertake. Let's have a reality check here, shall we? Fact is, "ordinary people" are not in any significant danger of having their e-mail or files intercepted and read by "ripoff artists, criminals, and spies." Next-door neighbors and other non-governmental entities rarely have access to packet sniffers, Carnivore-type intercept systems, or other surveillance gear. Longer term, crypto will indeed be more important for ordinary folks, for lots of reasons. But it'll be a hard sell convincing Mom and Pop or Joe Sixpack that they need to encrypt all of their e-mail to each other to stop "ripoff artists" from somehow gaining access to their traffic and reading it. (You're welcome to try to sell this to them. Knock yourself out. But history shows that even very few of _us_ routinely sign our messages, use PGP, etc. There are many reasons for this, well-covered in past discussions.) Fact is, crypto takes effort to use. And the fax effect means it takes effort at the other end, too. So not only must Joe Sixpack learn PGP and install it and use it, but Fred and Mary at the other end must use it as well, else he can't communicate using crypto. Given that crypto takes effort, who uses it? Some people use it because it's seen as The Right Thing to Do. I hate it when I get a PGP-encrypted message from a stranger, fire up my non-integrated-into-my-mail-program version of PGP, decrypt it, and find a message saying something like: "Hi, Tim! Just saying Hi. Thanks for all the cool articles." Who uses crypto on a regular basis are those for whom the risks of getting caught with certain material or certain thoughts are nonzero, and for whom the penalties are significant. The usual examples: freedom fighters plotting to blow up government buildings, child pornographers, money launderers making plans, etc. These kinds of users are the ones which National Technical Means--Carnivore, NSA listening posts, Echelon, San Diego-developed sniffers, etc.--are used against. Longer-term, there is the danger that unencrypted mail will show up in search engines (especially offshore search engines, as such interceptions in the U.S. would legally run afoul of the ECPA). At this point, at least a few years off, automatic encryption should be more widespread. (In the same way credit card transactions are encrypted automatically.) > > There will be some tensions, because there are laws which cannot >stand in a state where people have access to strong crypto and a >good protocol library. But society, and law, will have to adapt, >just as it, however belatedly, adapted to the existence of the >printing press. Crypto will either be criminalized and the cops >will prosecute it, or it will become a civil right and the cops >will defend it. Crypto is speech, and there are no significant court precedents banning crypto speech or banning the use of crypto tools. Key escrow was never mandated--never even really became technically plausible, fortunately--and _had_ it been mandated, numerous groups would have jumped in with legal challenges based largely on the First and Fourth Amendments. It is highly likely that mandatory key escrow would be overturned as a clear-cut violation of the First Amendment, as it compels speech to be in certain forms even when done in private. (On a side note, the government has not been able to even compel non-English speakers to speak in English, or in any other understandable language. A person speaking only his own private language may have a hard time dealing with society, filling out his tax forms properly, etc., but there is no official law saying he must learn English or Spanish or Mandarin or other widely-used languages in the U.S. And of course not in private or in chats with his family and friends, even if it means wiretaps are ineffective.) As for the "cops will defend it" point, this is naive. Cops make busts, they don't "defend" rights. >Right now, it's neither. Getting it into the >hands of
Re: Wonder where he got that idea?
At 2:05 AM -0700 8/25/00, jim bell wrote:
>Libertarian presidential candidate Harry Browne just appeared on Politically
>Incorrect.
>
>
>Politically Incorrect, August 25, 2000
>
>Bill Maher: [humorously] I am for a strong military that protects our stuff
>and kills people we don't like.
>
>Sharon Lawrence: You mean heads of state in other countries?
>
>Bill Maher: I am for killing Saddam Hussein
>
>Harry Browne: But the interesting is that it is against the law to kill
>Saddam Hussein, but it is not against the law to kill millions of Iraqi
>citizens who may hate Saddam Hussein as much as we do. I would reverse
>that. [applause]
>
>{Browne continues) If we got in trouble with a foreign country, the first
>thing I would do is to go after the leader. I would put up a reward of a
>billion dollars for the person who could kill that leader. And it would be
>available to Americans to foreigners, to the dictator's wives, to the palace
>guard.
>
>
>[station break; end of my quote]
>
>
>Jim Bell
>Author of "Assassination Politics" essay. (at
>www.jya.com/ap.htm )
Sorry, Jim, but the idea of putting bounties on the heads of foreign
leaders goes back into the mists of history. And, notably, it was
debated during World War II, vis-a-vis putting a bounty on the head
of Hitler.
Predates your stuff, or _my_ 1988 stuff on untraceable contract
assassinations, by a long, long time.
You have every right to claim credit for your popularization of
betting pools for killings, though be sure to remember to give credit
to Jack London for his work early in the 20th century, but you should
be very careful not to claim credit for the general ideas of
bounties, contract killings, and the use of untraceable methods.
--Tim May
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Blood in the Gears of the "Machinery of Freedom"?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>"The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem >>of limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small >>children and great nations." -- David Friedman, >>_The_Machinery_of_Freedom_ > > > It's one of my favorites, too. > > One hopes that if there is an afterlife he has a chance to explain it > to his six million fellow Jews who went to the crematoria chanting > this mantra. > > Or he could fly to Rwanda and tell this to the Hutus and Tutsis. Touché. Nietzsche's "Where are your claws?", and all that. Certainly the creation of superior force-capability, and the will to use it, especially on people who can't or won't fight back, creates situations like the above. The book "Guns, Germs, and Steel" is chock-a-block with examples of the same kind of thing throughout human history. It's interesting, nonetheless, that the cases above are perfect examples of exactly what David Friedman (for those here who don't know of him, he's the current intellectual standard-bearer for anarcho-capitalism, a "law and economics" professor in Santa Clara, and the son of Milton and Rose Friedman) was talking about: nation states using force as a poor solution to the distribution of limited resources. In the first example, the Nazis distributed, by force, the resources of mostly unarmed Jews. The same Nazis who came to power themselves because of a completely uneconomic World War I reparation/ resource-redistribution scheme. A scheme imposed, by force, at the armistice, by other states, including the U.S. A "great nation", which, by the way, was the sole holdout against relaxation of those reparations in the face of the very German hyperinflation that gave the Nazi party its start to begin with. It was also, not cooincidentally, the same "great nation" who had to, later, using its own force, distribute the resources, if not the lives, taken by Nazis from the Jews, or, more properly, to destroy those expropriated resources almost completely. Killing the economic patient to save him, as it were. In the second example, there's a post-colonial Rwandan government, controlled by a previously disempowered majority (created, again by another nation state, France, or Belgium, or whoever) looking the other way while the majority population itself took it upon themselves, mostly, to distribute the resources of a comparatively richer minority with in a machete-slashing bloodbath. The fact that a colonizing nation-state had the ability to merge those two iron-spear-armed enemy populations at gunpoint sometime in the past might have also had something to do with the problem, I think. Fat lot of good it does to either set of victims, no matter how right the analysis is, of course. Note, nonetheless, that in both cases, people contracted with their government to protect the most precious resource of all, their lives, or, more properly, their freedom, from "distribution by force", and their government failed to live up to whatever contract they thought they had. Proving that, more often than not, laws, and, frankly, constitutions, say what the guys with the guns say they do, and no more -- and why it's also very important for *everyone* to be "one of the guys with guns" as a result. So David Friedman, being, like lots of us here, an anarchocapitalist, would probably think that privately operated markets for force would have prevented both incidents before they even started. Meaning that the heretofore-massacred millions would have instead been in possession of arms, freely available in an open market for same, and, more importantly, convinced of the necessity to provide for their own defense, and trained accordingly. And, again, saying something is right doesn't make it so, which, I suppose, might have been the point, even if Friedman has been saying it in the language of economics instead of moral outrage. Which brings me to the reason I still like the quote above, in spite of such an apparently strenuous objection to it. [The 20% or so of you who are long-time cypherpunks, and who've heard me say the following before, can skip it, I bet. :-).] I think we have tranfer-priced violence-enforced (lie about a trade, go to jail) monopoly-structured markets for a reason, and that's because it's cheaper than, as Pierpont Morgan might have put it, "ruinous competition" between competing economic entities. Human heads, until the advent of electromechanical switches in the 1930's or so, were the only "switches" of information available. Such expensive switches make for hierarchical, transfer-priced economic networks, and the faster the transmission of information, over longer distances, the larger those hierarchies become. Under those kinds of conditions, it's better to merge someone else's firm into yours, than it is to compete with it, even if the firm is a force monopoly called a nation-state. That, ultimately, is where large empire-scale nation-states like China, t
Wonder where he got that idea?
Libertarian presidential candidate Harry Browne
just appeared on PoliticallyIncorrect.Politically Incorrect,
August 25, 2000Bill Maher: [humorously] I am for a strong military
that protects our stuffand kills people we don't like.Sharon
Lawrence: You mean heads of state in other countries?Bill
Maher: I am for killing Saddam HusseinHarry Browne:
But the interesting is that it is against the law to killSaddam Hussein, but
it is not against the law to kill millions of Iraqicitizens who may
hate Saddam Hussein as much as we do. I would reversethat.
[applause]{Browne continues) If we got in trouble with a
foreign country, the firstthing I would do is to go after the leader.
I would put up a reward of abillion dollars for the person who could kill
that leader. And it would beavailable to Americans to foreigners, to
the dictator's wives, to the palaceguard.[station break; end of
my quote]Jim BellAuthor of "Assassination Politics" essay.
(at www.jya.com/ap.htm
)
