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You are under the Judgement of the LORD GOD OF HOST for the sin of the sea of babies, abortion and infant sacrifice to the devil. You will burn in the presence of the HOLY Angels. The seals are opened. PREPARE FOR YOUR DESTRUCTION CAMAEL ARCHANGEL OF DESTRUCTION THE PLAGUES OF THE LORD FOR THE SIN OF THE SEA OF BABIES UPON ALL NATIONS OF THE EARTH IAIAIAIAIOIOIOIOIO I AM BEFORE ALL BUT THE FATHER; MELOCH HEL ALOKIM TPHARET HOD JESAITH; BAHANDO HELESLOIR DEALZAT Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the field. Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading-trough. Cursed shall be the fruit of your body, and the fruit of your ground, the increase of your cattle, and the young of your flock. Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out. "The LORD will send upon you curses, confusion, and frustration, in all that you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and perish quickly, on account of the evil of your doings, because you have forsaken me. The LORD will make the pestilence cleave to you until he has consumed you off the land which you are entering to take possession of it. The LORD will smite you with consumption, and with fever, inflammation, and fiery heat, and with drought, and with blasting, and with mildew; they shall pursue you until you perish. And the heavens over your head shall be brass, and the earth under you shall be iron. The LORD will make the rain of your land powder and dust; from heaven it shall come down upon you until you are destroyed. "The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you shall go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them; and you shall be a horror to all the kingdoms of the earth. And your dead body shall be food for all birds of the air, and for the beasts of the earth; and there shall be no one to frighten them away. The LORD will smite you with the boils of Egypt, and with the ulcers and the scurvy and the itch, of which you cannot be healed. The LORD will smite you with madness and blindness and confusion of mind; and you shall grope at noonday, as the blind grope in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways; and you shall be only oppressed and robbed continually, and there shall be no one to help you. You shall betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her; you shall build a house, and you shall not dwell in it; you shall plant a vineyard, and you shall not use the fruit of it. Your ox shall be slain before your eyes, and you shall not eat of it; your ass shall be violently taken away before your face, and shall not be restored to you; your sheep shall be given to your enemies, and there shall be no one to help you. Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, while your eyes look on and fail with longing for them all the day; and it shall not be in the power of your hand to prevent it. A nation which you have not known shall eat up the fruit of your ground and of all your labors; and you shall be only oppressed and crushed continually; so that you shall be driven mad by the sight which your eyes shall see. The LORD will smite you on the knees and on the legs with grievous boils of which you cannot be healed, from the sole of your foot to the crown of your head. "The LORD will bring you, and your king whom you set over you, to a nation that neither you nor your fathers have known; and there you shall serve other gods, of wood and stone. And you shall become a horror, a proverb, and a byword, among all the peoples where the LORD will lead you away. You shall carry much seed into the field, and shall gather little in; for the locust shall consume it. You shall plant vineyards and dress them, but you shall neither drink of the wine nor gather the grapes; for the worm shall eat them. You shall have olive trees throughout all your territory, but you shall not anoint yourself with the oil; for your olives shall drop off. You shall beget sons and daughters, but they shall not be yours; for they shall go into captivity. All your trees and the fruit of your ground the locust shall possess. The sojourner who is among you shall mount above you higher and higher; and you shall come down lower and lower. He shall lend to you, and you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail. All these curses shall come upon you and pursue you and overtake you, till you are destroyed, because you did not obey the voice of the LORD your God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded you. They shall be upon you as a sign and a wonder, and upon your descendants for ever. "Because you did not serve the LORD your God with joyfulness and gladness of heart, by reason of the abundance of all things, therefore you shall serve your enemies whom the LORD will send against you, in hunger and thirst, in nakedness, and in want of all things; and he will put a yoke of iron upon your neck, until he
Re: Re: Knowing your customer
At 12:47 PM 12/6/00 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: You're thinking of something else, but you're close enough. For instance, there are laws in most jurisdictions about requiring a social security number to open a bank account, for any of a number of reasons including credit checks, and checks on how many, um, negative-funded, bank accounts you might have hanging out there before you opened this one. More to the point, since interest is taxable income for individuals, and a tax deductible expense for corporations, social security numbers are required in order to pay you interest. Ah the Bank Secrecy Act of 1970 (which outlawed bank secrecy). http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/SupManual/bsa/bsa_p2.pdf http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/SupManual/bsa/bsa_p1.pdf The Feds do require SS numbers on bank accounts in most cases but the requirement has major loopholes. [And, yes, Duncan may be right, you might be able to spoof an SSN at them somehow, but I don't know anyone who's actually done it, admitted it in any public detail, and not been somehow razzed legally for it.] It's actually not too hard because bank officers can't verify SS numbers save by using the well-known methods to check facial validity. As long as you precheck your numbers with a program like ssn.exe which checks for non-existent number ranges and state of issue, you should be OK. The SS Admin refused to allow the credit reporting agencies to verify their records agains the Feds database (because of the privacy implications). As always, if you get turned down someplace, go someplace else. Likewise, SSNs are not required to open accounts in other countries and these accounts are accessible these days by Internet Banking and credit/debit cards. One can also set up entities such as: sole proprietorship, partnership, trust, estate, corporation, etc. and apply for a taxpayer ID number (TIN) and have the entity open an account. The advantage of this is that you can have an infinite number of unconnected entities thus defeating the linking problem involved in the use of a single identifier such as the SSN. In addition, the new online payment services don't always require an SS# to open an account: Do not require SSN to open account PayPal -- http://www.paypal.com (Now international as well which creates a further loophole.) BillPoint (Wells Fargo eBay) -- http://www.billpoint.com/ (Requires Ebay registration which requires a credit card to sell but not to buy.) dotBank (Yahoo) -- (http://www.dotbank.com/) Now http://paydirect.yahoo.com/ PayMe -- https://www.payme.com/ Ecount -- http://www.ecount.com/ MoneyZap (Western Union) -- http://www.moneyzap.com/ Require SSN to open account eMoneyMail (BankOne) -- http://www.emoneymail.com/ ProPay -- http://www.propay.com/ c2it -- (Citigroup AOL) http://www.c2it.com/ Most of these accounts can be opened with throwaway email address and a accommodation address for your physical address. As they grow in importance, having an account with them may be more useful. It is important to note that the best way to dodge some of the paperwork is to open accounts when services are new since the requirements tend to increase over time. Prior to October 1999(?) for example, Ebay did not require a credit card to open a sales account and existing account holders were grandfathered in when they added that requirement. But there are always new account and payment systems popping up so you can continue to take advantage of this principle. Keep in mind that there are other financial account privacy techniques not mentioned here. Use your imagination. [The answer to this lie to the government, don't get a bank account Usually, you're not lying to the government but to a private party acting on behalf of the government. problem, which any persistent cypherpunk subscriber knows, is, of course, to have payment systems which don't *need* physical identity for non-repudiation of transactions and the subsequent requirement of the force of a nation-state to make settlement risk manageable: bearer certificates based on cryptographic protocols like blind signatures, which will, frankly, only *really* be possible, soup-withdrawl to nuts-deposit, when a bearer currency issue is *itself* reserved by other digital bearer assets, instead of just a book-entry account somewhere.] Definitely a good idea if someone can pull it off. DCF May the Lord enlighten ... the Swiss banks -- that they might uphold justice and preserve the integrity of their own laws and the laws of confidentiality, trust and basic decency between the banks and their clients. Imelda Marcos' Prayer for the Swiss Banks - Manila - Sunday 25 February 1996.
Re: This is why a free society is evil. [Re: This is why HTMLemail is evil.]
At 9:40 AM -0500 12/15/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim May wrote: In a free society, free economy, then employers and employees are much more flexible. A solid contributor would not be fired for something so trivial as having a porn picture embedded in some minor way. Hell, a solid contributor probably wouldn't be fired even for sending MPEG porn movies to his buddies! Depends on your definition of a free society, free economy. In my definition, free society, free economy property holders are free to use the power derived from their property in order to protect their property and also to advance their own agenda. I don't know if your example involved a claim the Personnel Dept. bimbo was acting as an agent of the company's property holders or not, but that's just the advancing agenda situation. The reason the company now prohibits all sorts of activities, and the reason the Personnel Commissar is inspecting offices, is because of _externalities_ like lawsuits, harassment charges, etc. In a free society, these externalities would vanish. I suspect you'd be happier if property holders didn't hire people prone to making decisions advancing their own individual agendas. Unfortunately, it's hard to find perfect people and it's still the decision of the property holder to hire them and allow them to make decisions without supervision. You seem to fundammentally misunderstand the situation. The reason the Personnel Commissar is ordering sensitivity training, workshops, and is requiring that posters of Brittny Spears be removed from office walls is because government and lawyers have made companies liable in various ways for "discriminatory" or "sexist" or suchlike behaviors. One of my fellow engineers at Intel had a large poster of the famous early 80s porn star, "Seka," on his walls--she was, in this poster, clothed, albeit skimpily. Some of the secretaries clucked, and retaliated by putting up Chippendales calendars, including full frontal nudity. Would such things be tolerated today? Nope. And not because of the personal choices of a particluarl Personnel bimbo. Nope, the fear is of lawsuits. This was my point about a free society. Even so, a property holder is equally free to protect their property by deciding that firing an individual accused of an action is less of a cost than the legal actions and/or bad press that might otherwise result. Firing actions don't have to be rational and property owners are free to be gutless. You're really missing the point, aren't you? Go back and think about the issues more deeply. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: 1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
Re: Inquiry RE: audiobook reviewers
- Original Message - From: "Dwayne Parsons" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Found your request on Editor's Choice. I'm a professional writer, avid reader and believe in audiobooks. Spend a lot of time driving across rural Montana. What's your terms? Can you be more specific if your need still exists. I'm capable and interested and have done numerous book reviews from print. Our need does still exist. Should you be chosen for this seven-month term assignment, your recurring task would be to pick up 50 - 75 units of audiobook in Eagle Pass, Texas and upon review of the each audiobook's quality, deliver them to a ranch in Corralitos, California. You will be paid with e-gold, at a value of $2900 per successful trip. If you are still interested, please submit a more detailed resume and references.
BT sues Prodigy over U.S. hyperlink patent
probably behind the times, didn't see this spark up yet, but the quote below caught my attention... How serious would you guys suggest this "threat" to be? any information regarding other patents that could turn up like this in a more SERIOUS fashion? -stu BT sues Prodigy over U.S. hyperlink patent http://www.idg.net/ic_316584_1794_1-483.html "I haven't looked at that particular patent, so I can't formally comment on it. But I can say that Web development is seriously threatened by frivolous patents, though you can't quote me as saying I called that patent frivolous," Berners-Lee said
Re: Perry's Paint Fable comes to mind...
At 10:23 PM -0800 on 12/14/00, Tim May wrote: April 1st is many months off, so why this? :-). Let's see now, you're about the third or fourth person to note the same think (Stewart, Broiles, for example), on this very thread. The first being, of course, Perry... Yes, I'd heard about the flaps and seals folks. Yes, probably seven or eight times. From you, alone, over the years. Somehow I figured, if the snake-oil humor relevant, then maybe these quys had done something new, chemically, that made this iteration of the same old idea a little different. Cheers, RAH (In the meantime, are you *sure* you really want to start this kind of snide shit again, Tim? It seems to me you and I were doing rather nicely the last 9 or 10 months or so...) -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: Perry's Paint Fable comes to mind...
At 11:13 PM -0800 12/14/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 10:23 PM -0800 on 12/14/00, Tim May wrote: April 1st is many months off, so why this? :-). Let's see now, you're about the third or fourth person to note the same think (Stewart, Broiles, for example), on this very thread. The first being, of course, Perry... Yes, I'd heard about the flaps and seals folks. Yes, probably seven or eight times. From you, alone, over the years. Sorry I didn't see the other responses, who pointed out the same things I pointed out, basically. I was away for a couple of days and was catching up on a lot of mail. I'm just amazed that "New Scientist" or anyone else would not know that making paper transparent is trivial. I may take their "What if atoms don't actually exist?" sorts of cover stories (quantum weirdness, stuff from nothingness, etc.) less seriously. (In the meantime, are you *sure* you really want to start this kind of snide shit again, Tim? It seems to me you and I were doing rather nicely the last 9 or 10 months or so...) It wasn't "snide shit." Reread what I wrote. But, since you are apparently so willing to be offended, and have more than several times brought up some notion that we have some sort of truce, let me disabuse you of this by saying "Fuck off." --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: 1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
Re: All these different addresses.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to be told "Check the Archives". How come this list has so many addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is any of these the *real* address, or it is a personal choice? -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** "Despite almost every experience I've ever had with federal authority, I keep imagining its competence." John Perry Barlow
Re: Perry's Paint Fable comes to mind...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 11:59 PM -0800 on 12/14/00, Tim May wrote: "Fuck off." There you go again. :-). Nonetheless, after 6 1/2 years, it does feel like it's time for me move on, and it seems quite appropriate for me to go out the same way I came in: with Tim yelling. ;-). Thanks for all the fish, everybody. Have fun. Cheers, RAH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQEVAwUBOjob+8UCGwxmWcHhAQGKDgf/RBn5rb1rm3K1lDlL8pfy2jqGQGb4QNi2 /mdKH0oSEgQ6m+YL3SquIeOzWf1n6n+XINkMUPHQkjH2hTj35iFGPkiL3MDJ3f91 m+GzIscZXIdauu9T9vYoBSC5QktH4VK4bzQ0PZaBjyIv3n+jdjgczSJeUXY3j+v+ DrxWEuEeI0LxfJZgiOTwUxzmtMy8EA7f9Sc3dOYZfNKNIRPxoKII7mg6JdhpRXaR DJTvGeWwC35xwJxpK5kEBh/MwypClMvarZp+ICUToj5YySe7Z99Ly9Go0yKuTmAu B1h8QZv8fgZ0cH+nqaQte+gqFkohXTzPNYj1zu5ytALr778HMAfoLA== =lXpG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
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