Re: Ministers told to plan for e-nightmare

2000-08-02 Thread petro

At 10:51 AM +0100 8/1/00, Ken Brown wrote:

The Times
   July 31 2000  BRITAIN

Ministers told to plan for e-nightmare

In one of them, called "Gangland", a failure by Government to secure
   electronic
   transactions leads to the nation being held to ransom by hackers. Society
   reaches the verge of meltdown as a bankrupt Government is unable 
to pay for
   public services. With gangsters running the electronic economy, people
   return in
   desperation to an antiquated form of exchange - cash.

One wonders how "gangsters" control an electronic medium where 
transactions are largely voluntary, where untraceability is 
possible, and where meatspace coercion is essentially impossible. 
(Perhaps those doing the study were of the belief--common amongst 
liberals--that Amazon is a 'coercive monopoly" which "forces" people 
to buy from them. Or that those who devised Mojo Nation will become 
the new underworld bosses.)

Simple. Anyone participating in such things is ipso facto a gangster.

In short, the report is a mishmash of mutually contradictory situations.

Only from the perspective of someone who believes that people 
should be free to make their own choices and live their lives as they 
see fit. From the perspective of someone who feels that everyone 
should be beholden to, and regulated by "society", it makes perfect 
sense.


As for the "meltdown" part, that part is true.

Crypto anarchy means tens of millions of welfare breeders told to 
either go out and start doing something others will voluntarily pay 
money for, or to start starving. To paraphrase Red in "Shawshank," 
"Get busy working, or get busy dying."

Let's hope so.
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Re: Ministers told to plan for e-nightmare

2000-08-01 Thread Tim May

At 10:51 AM +0100 8/1/00, Ken Brown wrote:

   The Times
  July 31 2000  BRITAIN

   Ministers told to plan for e-nightmare

   In one of them, called "Gangland", a failure by Government to secure
  electronic
  transactions leads to the nation being held to ransom by hackers. Society
  reaches the verge of meltdown as a bankrupt Government is unable to pay for
  public services. With gangsters running the electronic economy, people
  return in
  desperation to an antiquated form of exchange - cash.

One wonders how "gangsters" control an electronic medium where 
transactions are largely voluntary, where untraceability is possible, 
and where meatspace coercion is essentially impossible. (Perhaps 
those doing the study were of the belief--common amongst 
liberals--that Amazon is a 'coercive monopoly" which "forces" people 
to buy from them. Or that those who devised Mojo Nation will become 
the new underworld bosses.)

And if "gangsters" are "running" and electronic economy, why would 
"cash" be the choice for consumers? Either consumers are using the 
electronic economy, voluntarily, or they're not. If they are not, 
then the gangsters clearly are not running a successful economy. If 
they are using the economy, then they won't be using traditional cash.

In short, the report is a mishmash of mutually contradictory situations.

As for the "meltdown" part, that part is true.

Crypto anarchy means tens of millions of welfare breeders told to 
either go out and start doing something others will voluntarily pay 
money for, or to start starving. To paraphrase Red in "Shawshank," 
"Get busy working, or get busy dying."

Crypto anarchy also means the undermining of central states, both 
through apathy and through enabling of active measures to sabotage 
political and military operations.


--Tim May
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