Re: Ralph Nader sends privacy survey to Bush and Gore campaigns

2000-10-11 Thread Tim May

At 10:44 PM -0700 10/10/00, Ray Dillinger wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, petro wrote:

  I get the same impression--They seem like National (as
opposed to International) Socialists.


Ah.  I see that, in accordance with ancient usenet and
mailing-list tradition, the discussion is now over.

   Bear

May's Corollary to Godwin's Law: At least 97% of all invocations of 
Godwin's Law are done so to squelch debate.


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Re: Warrantless Searches, S.2516

2000-10-11 Thread Bill Stewart

At 07:48 PM 10/10/00 +0100, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 11:24 AM -0700 on 10/10/00, Michael Motyka wrote:
 Get with the program Bob, they're not "warrantless searches", they're
 searches (AKA fishing expeditions) conducted pursuant to an
 "Administrative Subpoena."

Sorry.
My mistake. :-).

Cops at Door:  Open Up! Bang! Thud! Thud! Th...
Person inside opens door 
Cops in Room: thud! Trip! *)(!*$#E)! 
Person inside: Let's see your warrant:
Cops in Room:  We don't need no stinkin' Warrants, we got ourselves
an "Administrative Subpoena".  In good faith, even!
Person inside: OK, then.  Let's see your fishing license.



Thanks! 
Bill
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Re: Ralph Nader sends privacy survey to Bush and Gore campaigns

2000-10-11 Thread Bill Stewart


On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:
  At 23:38 10/9/2000 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
  I seem to remember Etzioni being tied into the Communitarian
  movement as well.

  Right. In fact, that's an understatement.

  He's essentially the anti-cypherpunk: Regulate corporations' data
  collection practices strictly, but don't regulate the governments'
  practices.

  -Declan

Could someone cogently explain the difference between communitarians
and communists?
...
I get the impression that communitarians were sort of a communist/fascist
hybrid, but I'm sure someone has a more elegant explanation.

The Commies could always recognize the FBI plants in their groups
because they were the ones who paid their organization dues



Thanks! 
Bill
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