Re: ATT signs bulk hosting contract with spammers
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote: BTW the first things the Feds are now saying when they speak in public (http://www.mccullagh.org/image/950-17/aba-netspionage-broadcast.html) is that they do not come in and cart off everything you own. At least that's the latest spin. :) Of course they don't. Carting stuff is a job for union workers, so that's done by the General Services Administration, unless there's some other local union contract that requires your city's workers to do it. And deciding whether you own things or not is a long legal process, as is identifying what things you might own that are somewhere else. So instead they just have the aforementioned union or city workers cart away everything you _have_, and cart back anything later determined to belong to someone else, unless it looks suspictious, of course. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639
Re: FW: BLOCK: ATT signs bulk hosting contract with spammers
Then, depending on your personal preferences and how valuable you think you are to prospective emailers, accept only email messages with $0.10, or $1.00, or $10.00... It's a market; you do the math. -Declan On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 08:14:34PM -0800, jim bell wrote: - Original Message - From: Alex B. Shepardsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kevin Elliott wrote: You know, I don't like spammers any more than the next guy, but come on. Unethical? we're not talking genocide and it's not like it We ought to be. If spammers feared death as a result of their actions, they would be a lot less likely to spam. I've got a solution to thatoh, never mind. If "spammers" attached a digi-nickel to each spam, you'd only have to get 300 such pieces per month (10 per day) to pay for the typical ISP account monthly cost. Jim Bell
Re: FW: BLOCK: ATT signs bulk hosting contract with spammers
At 07:40 -0800 11/1/00, James Wilson wrote: If any of you get services from ATT you might want to start looking for a more ethical carrier (if one exists) - ATT has been caught red handed hosting spammers and promising not to terminate their services. You know, I don't like spammers any more than the next guy, but come on. Unethical? we're not talking genocide and it's not like it cause significant (heck, even measurable) harm. -- "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." -- Justice William O. Douglas Kevin "The Cubbie" Elliott mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#23758827
Re: FW: BLOCK: ATT signs bulk hosting contract with spammers
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 07:40 -0800 11/1/00, James Wilson wrote: If any of you get services from ATT you might want to start looking for a more ethical carrier (if one exists) - ATT has been caught red handed hosting spammers and promising not to terminate their services. You know, I don't like spammers any more than the next guy, but come on. Unethical? we're not talking genocide and it's not like it cause significant (heck, even measurable) harm. As long as they are honest about where they are coming from. However, spammers have a nasty habit of lying about their return address. (And the sysadmin of that domain gets to wade through the mountains of shit-mail and hell caused by pissed off people.) Either that or they hijack open relays and cause those servers to crawl to their knees, as well as the above headaches for the site admins of the effected servers. I have had to clean up the mess from a couple of spammers doing the above. (As well as the problems caused by clueless sales people at a company I once worked for.) Not fun. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen| to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. "In the future, everything will have its 15 minutes of blame."
