At 01:27 AM 1/23/01 -0500, dmolnar wrote: >This suggests a tangent - If we look at works of fiction which were >politically or socially influential in their day, how many were >entertaining? how many were "good stories"? A lot of polemics end up >seeming transparent and thin today (I'm thinking in particular of >Bellamy's _Looking Backward_, but there are probably other examples). >They had to capture their audience somehow, which seems to say something >about the audience of the time (or maybe just about the tendency people >have to overlook faults in a book which agrees with them). There's always Ayn Rand - "The Fountainhead" has at least some depth of characters, as opposed to her later and more polemic <fnord>"Telemachus Sneezed", with the 600-page speech by John Guilt</fnord> "Atlas Shrugged", with its much thinner characters and increased preachiness. On the other hand, a lot of Frank Lloyd Wright's buildings haven't passed the physical tests of time, and I gather geodesic domes tend to leak even if they're not built as badly as those that Some Local Cypherpunks are living in - we'll see how geodesic economies do... Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639