Re: Maker: Drugs, Biomed, Etc

2016-11-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 01:39:34AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
> https://fourthievesvinegar.org/
> http://4thievzv3hh26qeh.onion/

> https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5fq5mu/for_us20_a_group_of_high_school_students_has/

An early reply slightly reworded. Lovely propaganda :)

 > With all due respect the use never has been ripping off the software.
 > It's been the r and d to develop it and the best minds to come up
 > with it. I can play the intro to simple man on the guitar. I'd have
 > never been able to write it though.

 > Likewise you don't see nationalized IT systems putting out break
 > through websites. Money is a hell of a motivator and while China and
 > the FSF can rip off our GUIs they aren't the ones making break
 > through software systems.

Do NOT under any circumstances develop or duplicate molecular software
at home peeps.


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Maker: Drugs, Biomed, Etc

2016-11-30 Thread grarpamp
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5fq5mu/for_us20_a_group_of_high_school_students_has/
https://fourthievesvinegar.org/
http://4thievzv3hh26qeh.onion/


Re: Rising carbon dioxide is greening the Earth - but it's not all good news

2016-11-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
It's not all bad news:  Global temperature plummets:

Global avg. temperatures down a very large 1 degree,
as at mid 2016:
https://conservativedailypost.com/nasa-drops-global-warming-bombshell-liberals-panic-mode-scam-exposed/


It's not all good news:  Arctic perennial ice plummets:

Arctic Changed Beyond Recognition: 95% of Perennial Ice
Since 1984 Vanished
https://sputniknews.com/world/201612011048034813-perennial-ice-melting-arctic/


Certainly Earth weather and temperature patterns are changing.


Re: Scientific basis: Ethnic diversity damages social cohesion

2016-11-30 Thread John Newman
Zen, master phrenologist, confronting the issues.

On November 30, 2016 9:36:18 PM EST, Zenaan Shitlord Harkness 
 wrote:
>Let's begin to confront this one head on:
>
>http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/ethnic-diversity-and-social-cohesion/
>"
>Summary: Research shows that people like those who are similar to them.
>Moreover, the more heritable a trait is the more important similarity
>in
>it is to friends and spouses. Thus, people enjoy the company of those
>who are genetically similar to them. This may explain why people to
>marry, befriend, and live near, members of their own race for more than
>randomness would predict. Moreover, a rich literature of correlational,
>longitudinal, and experimental, data shows that people get along better
>with members of their own race and that ethnic diversity damages social
>cohesion.
>
>...
>
>The experimental evidence is pretty straightforward: researchers
>measure
>various traits of individuals before they meet and then see whether pre
>meeting similarity predict who ends up liking who. The finding,
>repeated
>over dozens of studies, is that the more similar people are the more
>they end up liking each-other (Bryne, 1971; NewComb, 1961; Lee, 1996;
>Myers, 2008 pg 400
>[links in original article]
>).
>
>...
>In conclusion, the totality of evidence clearly shows that ethnic
>diversity damages how well people get along, how much they trust one
>another, and how satisfied they are with their lives. These findings
>should be kept in mind when thinking about any form of racial
>diversity,
>regardless of the races involved.
>"
>
>
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> Executive Director of Vice, Ministry of Winning
> Shilling for buxom Russian swastika clad minxes since 1488

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Re: Fwd: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit

2016-11-30 Thread John Newman
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/tor-browser-zero-day-exploit-targeted-dark-web-child-porn-site-giftbox


On November 30, 2016 4:23:58 PM EST, Mirimir  wrote:
>FYI
>
> Forwarded Message 
>Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit
>Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:39:26 -0500
>From: Roger Dingledine 
>Reply-To: tor-t...@lists.torproject.org
>To: tor-t...@lists.torproject.org
>
>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 02:28:52PM -0500, Roger Dingledine wrote:
>> * The blog post about the 6.0.7 Tor Browser update will go up any
>> moment. I see that the Tor Browser team has already put the packages
>in
>> https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/6.0.7/
>
>And there it is:
>https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-browser-607-released
>
>--Roger
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Re: Scientific basis: Ethnic diversity damages social cohesion

2016-11-30 Thread Razer
Well I must be an outlier then because I get on MUCH BETTER with Mexican
workers than American lazy bums and I DEFINITELY relate better to people
of Muslim background than my own religious background, Jewish. The slum
neighborhood I live at on the Lower East Side in the 60s and 70s had
community, and I WAS part of it. The nice white neighborhood I grew up
in had a 'community center', where no community was ever found.

But I guess it all depends on whether you looking to LIKE people and be
liked (in other words looking to USE them and be used)  or COMMUNICATE
with like minds (collaborate).

OFC Libertarians are in the former category...

If you look at the chart at Wonkblog's post, for Asians, you'll see they
have almost zero Black 'friends'. It's well known asians are about the
most racist people on the planet. So these charts, ESPECIALLY THE
WONKBLOG CHARTS, which I saw months ago along with the statement of
intent to match what I'm about to say, in my estimation, indicate
degrees of racism in given ethnic groups, not who LIKES who.

The article was written by a guy who writes single-sided garbage like this:

"Many people like to imagine that Islamic terrorism is supported by
almost no one in the Muslim world. That is not the reality of the
situation. Surveys done in Germany, England, France, and Spain, suggest
that about 1 in 4 Muslims think that violence against civilians in the
name of Islam can be justified. "

http://therightstuff.biz/2016/06/13/the-orlando-shooting-and-islam/

Of COURSE he doesn't mention the fact that almost every christian in the
industrialized world would allow the wiping out of muslims in a
heartbeat. They do. Right now. It's not a hypothetical.

Tag: Racialists, Racist science, Methodology Fail.

Lookin' pretty right wing racist there Zen... But I know NZ is SERIOUSLY
racist, so I wouldn't expect otherwise from you. You were indoctrinated
badly but you're grown up now and should know better.

Rr



On 11/30/2016 06:36 PM, Zenaan Shitlord Harkness wrote:
> Let's begin to confront this one head on:
>
> http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/ethnic-diversity-and-social-cohesion/
> "
> Summary: Research shows that people like those who are similar to them.
> Moreover, the more heritable a trait is the more important similarity in
> it is to friends and spouses. Thus, people enjoy the company of those
> who are genetically similar to them. This may explain why people to
> marry, befriend, and live near, members of their own race for more than
> randomness would predict. Moreover, a rich literature of correlational,
> longitudinal, and experimental, data shows that people get along better
> with members of their own race and that ethnic diversity damages social
> cohesion.
>
> ...
>
> The experimental evidence is pretty straightforward: researchers measure
> various traits of individuals before they meet and then see whether pre
> meeting similarity predict who ends up liking who. The finding, repeated
> over dozens of studies, is that the more similar people are the more
> they end up liking each-other (Bryne, 1971; NewComb, 1961; Lee, 1996;
> Myers, 2008 pg 400
> [links in original article]
> ).
>
> ...
> In conclusion, the totality of evidence clearly shows that ethnic
> diversity damages how well people get along, how much they trust one
> another, and how satisfied they are with their lives. These findings
> should be kept in mind when thinking about any form of racial diversity,
> regardless of the races involved.
> "
>
>



Scientific basis: Ethnic diversity damages social cohesion

2016-11-30 Thread Zenaan Shitlord Harkness
Let's begin to confront this one head on:

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/ethnic-diversity-and-social-cohesion/
"
Summary: Research shows that people like those who are similar to them.
Moreover, the more heritable a trait is the more important similarity in
it is to friends and spouses. Thus, people enjoy the company of those
who are genetically similar to them. This may explain why people to
marry, befriend, and live near, members of their own race for more than
randomness would predict. Moreover, a rich literature of correlational,
longitudinal, and experimental, data shows that people get along better
with members of their own race and that ethnic diversity damages social
cohesion.

...

The experimental evidence is pretty straightforward: researchers measure
various traits of individuals before they meet and then see whether pre
meeting similarity predict who ends up liking who. The finding, repeated
over dozens of studies, is that the more similar people are the more
they end up liking each-other (Bryne, 1971; NewComb, 1961; Lee, 1996;
Myers, 2008 pg 400
[links in original article]
).

...
In conclusion, the totality of evidence clearly shows that ethnic
diversity damages how well people get along, how much they trust one
another, and how satisfied they are with their lives. These findings
should be kept in mind when thinking about any form of racial diversity,
regardless of the races involved.
"


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FBI hacking powers expanded to, well, everyone...

2016-11-30 Thread Razer
DailyDot:

"An effort to block expansion of government hacking powers failed on
Wednesday, ushering in a new era of uncertainty for digital privacy.

Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and John Cornyn (R-Texas) attempted to block
changes to Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, approved
by the Supreme Court in April, that will allow judges to issue search
warrants that give the FBI authority to remotely access devices in any
jurisdiction, or even outside the United States. Ordinarily, magistrate
judges may only issue warrants for cases within their jurisdiction.

The changes allow investigators to access devices whose locations are
“concealed through technological means”—such as the Tor anonymity
network or virtual private networks (VPNs)—or devices that are used in
botnets.

The DOJ argues that it needs these powers to investigate modern internet
criminals, like pedophiles who conceal their identities to trade in
sexualized images of children or discuss their abuse, and hackers'
botnets that have become powerful cyberweapons.

In short, the rule changes free federal investigators from geography to
match the global nature of the internet itself..."

More, and links:
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/rule-41-fbi-hacking-powers-expansion/



Fwd: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit

2016-11-30 Thread Mirimir
FYI

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:28:52 -0500
From: Roger Dingledine 
Reply-To: tor-t...@lists.torproject.org
To: tor-t...@lists.torproject.org

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:08:00PM +, Georg Koppen wrote:
> FWIW: We plan to release 6.0.7 with the patch Mozilla developed in a
> couple of hours. Updates to the alpha and hardened series will we
> provided as well thereafter.

Update:

* The blog post about the 6.0.7 Tor Browser update will go up any
moment. I see that the Tor Browser team has already put the packages in
https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/6.0.7/

* It looks like the vulnerability was in Firefox's SVG animation, so the
exploit does not work unless you have both svg and javascript enabled.
The "high" setting of Tor Browser's security slider disables both of
these pieces of the browser.

* It looks like the exploit code went up on pastebin on Monday morning,
and Mozilla worked on a patch yesterday, and updates to Firefox and
Tor Browser and Tails are coming out today. The exploit only worked on
Windows, but the vulnerability exists for Windows, OS X, and Linux.

In the meantime, if you slide your security slider to high, you won't
be vulnerable to this issue.

--Roger

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Fwd: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit

2016-11-30 Thread Mirimir
FYI

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Javascript exploit
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:39:26 -0500
From: Roger Dingledine 
Reply-To: tor-t...@lists.torproject.org
To: tor-t...@lists.torproject.org

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 02:28:52PM -0500, Roger Dingledine wrote:
> * The blog post about the 6.0.7 Tor Browser update will go up any
> moment. I see that the Tor Browser team has already put the packages in
> https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/6.0.7/

And there it is:
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-browser-607-released

--Roger

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Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread juan
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:42:13 +
Eugen Leitl  wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +, oshwm wrote:
> 
> > I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if
> > you want to only see what a particular individual thinks is
> > acceptable :D
> 
> I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike
> this list.
> 
> I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
> 
> If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.



Well, Comrade Leitl is just another member of the list,
collection, group, set, hashset, vector, array  of American
Fascists posing as 'cypherpunks'. Hardly surprising of course.






Re: New Firefox/TorBrowser 0day in the wild

2016-11-30 Thread Mirimir
On 11/30/2016 08:20 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:16:44PM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>>> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2016-November/042639.html
>>
>> Does this do anything against non-Windows systems?
>>
> The exploit appears windoze only, but likely the bug is alive on other
> OSes, so the sploit can be ported. It appears "use after free":
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/30/possible_tor_browser_decloak_zero_day_dropped_patch_in_works/

In , schoen noted:

| The underlying vulnerability has to do with a memory corruption
| of some sort in Firefox's SVG rendering, which is a code base
| that is shared across platforms. So probably an analogous memory
| corruption exists on other platforms, because it's compiled from
| the same C++. While it's possible that it's not exploitable
| outside of Windows, there is no specific reason to assume it
| won't be.
|
| But the exploit here with the ROP chain, calling Windows APIs,
| etc., is apparently Win32-specific and doesn't have binary code
| that could run successfully on other platforms.
|
| The setup for the exploit is apparently primarily in the
| Javascript function craftDOM() which makes some SVG objects and
| modifies some of their properties, presumably in a way that
| triggers an underlying bug in Firefox's SVG support. There is
| also a Win32 object code payload in the string object thecode,
| which would not be able to run unmodified on another platform.
| Also, the ROP chain code is likely to be Windows-specific in
| several respects. Indeed, the statement
|
|   throw"Bad NT Signature";
|
| seems to be actively giving up the attack if it detects a
| non-Win32 environment.



Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread juan
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 09:45:47 +0100
Tom  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 09:50:52PM -0300, juan wrote:
> > Anyway, why should I bother getting the spelling of your
> > fucking, imperial, nazi langauge right? 
> 
> Die Nazisprache ist immer noch Deutsch, Du Vollhonk.

Yes...that's right...according to Official Doctrinewhich is
itself wrong =)

Vollhonk. I learned some german slang today =P

> 
> However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became
> yet another spam list.
> 
> 
> 
> - Tom



Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread John Newman

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Eugen Leitl  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +, oshwm wrote:
>> 
>> I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want 
>> to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D
> 
> I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike this list.
> 
> I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
> 
> If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.

Different lists , different purposes.

If you (understandably) can't handle the muck, unsubscribe.

John


Re: CCs being stripped from some list messages - policy?

2016-11-30 Thread rooty
Please no bother Raid - he out sick due new presidential elect




 Original Message 
On Nov 29, 2016, 6:40 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Anyone know whos CCs get through, and whos don't?

Evidently some (or all) of mine do not come through, such as my CC to
Mirimir on the email below.

Riad, what's the status (I've also CCed you on this email)?

Thanks,
Zenaan



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:57:06PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:52:59PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> > On 11/29/2016 05:38 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 11/29/2016 10:26 AM, John Newman wrote:
> > >>> BLAH BLAH BLAH
> > >>>
> > >>> TL Did not fucking read
> > >>
> > >> Yes, he is totally full of shit. I wish that people wouldn't reply to
> > >> him. Then I wouldn't even know that it was there ;)
> > >>
> > >
> > > ​I created a lovely, gorgeous, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious​
> > >
> > > ​filter to send Zzz's garbage directly to my trash​, but all the times 
> > > when
> > > someone replies to him, my poor inbox feels sad... Snif, snif! :(
> >
> > I'm filtering now on both From and Body :)
>
> How? Can this be done with procmail?
>
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Re: New Firefox/TorBrowser 0day in the wild

2016-11-30 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:16:44PM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2016-November/042639.html
> 
> Does this do anything against non-Windows systems?
>
The exploit appears windoze only, but likely the bug is alive on other
OSes, so the sploit can be ported. It appears "use after free":

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/30/possible_tor_browser_decloak_zero_day_dropped_patch_in_works/


Re: CCs being stripped from some list messages - policy?

2016-11-30 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Riad is a extremely correct and fair person.  He does certainly _not_ have
anything with this new drama and, being sincere, contacting him, when you
are polite, rational and logical, is pretty easy.  But, please, do _not_
waste his time pretending to be a 'poor innocent victim', with crazy
conspiration theories.

Few months ago, Zzz made a huge drama saying that he was kicked out of the
CypherPunks list and cc Alexander and Juan, asking for help.  The problem
was  -- d'oh! --  Zzz simply typed the wrong e-mail address and his message
was rejected.  Should I send his hilarious dramatic message and respective
answers to the list again, just for the lulz?  hihi...  ;)

Maybe the problem is simply that my little hamsters, Turing and Tesla, are
smarter and better cypherpunks than some paranoic people here.  C'est la
vie!  ;)

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say it."

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Razer  wrote:

> Email relay blackhole gotcha? Tsk... Tsk.
>
> Good luck finding out which one... even better luck actually making
> contact with the op to get off their list.
> Rr
>
> On 11/29/2016 06:40 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>
> Anyone know whos CCs get through, and whos don't?
>
> Evidently some (or all) of mine do not come through, such as my CC to
> Mirimir on the email below.
>
> Riad, what's the status (I've also CCed you on this email)?
>
> Thanks,
> Zenaan
>
>


Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread Razer


On 11/30/2016 04:53 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> Don't recall seeing your name back then.

The good ol' days and the good ol' boys...

Most of the people you knew back then in bangpath days are probably dead.

Get over yourself.


Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread Razer


On 11/30/2016 03:42 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +, oshwm wrote:
>
>> I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want 
>> to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D
> I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike this list.
>
> I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
>
> If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.

It really depends on what you're looking for in the way of lists. All
code and (lets say) no "Robot escapes and injures human" make lists
dull, and dull minds stick together.

Otoh, having participated in other lists that seriously degenerated I'd
say this one is pretty bad right. I might not be a state of the art
coder but I do have interest in the topic and wouldn't stick around for
alist that was all bot-spew (aff... cece) and medicated rants (Fucking
nazi commie blah blah)..

Use filters. I'm sure there a few people here who don't like my
anti-libertard statements and I have a few semi-autonomous bots on
mine,. Easy to do, and save reading people's whines... Which are, btw,
another kind of spam

Rr


Re: CCs being stripped from some list messages - policy?

2016-11-30 Thread Razer
Email relay blackhole gotcha? Tsk... Tsk.

Good luck finding out which one... even better luck actually making
contact with the op to get off their list.

Rr

On 11/29/2016 06:40 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Anyone know whos CCs get through, and whos don't?
>
> Evidently some (or all) of mine do not come through, such as my CC to
> Mirimir on the email below.
>
> Riad, what's the status (I've also CCed you on this email)?
>
> Thanks,
> Zenaan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:57:06PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:52:59PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
>>> On 11/29/2016 05:38 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Mirimir  wrote:

> On 11/29/2016 10:26 AM, John Newman wrote:
>> BLAH BLAH BLAH
>>
>> TL Did not fucking read
> Yes, he is totally full of shit. I wish that people wouldn't reply to
> him. Then I wouldn't even know that it was there ;)
>
 ​I created a lovely, gorgeous, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious​

 ​filter to send Zzz's garbage directly to my trash​, but all the times when
 someone replies to him, my poor inbox feels sad...  Snif, snif!  :(
>>> I'm filtering now on both From and Body :)
>> How? Can this be done with procmail?
>>
>> -- 
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Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread oshwm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

Or you moderate it until the only opinions allowed are ones you agree with.

And with regards to the past, I didn't exist back then and may not exist in the 
future either :)


On 30 November 2016 12:53:54 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl  wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:50:49AM +, oshwm wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA512
>>
>> If you are already part of functional censored lists why would you be
>interested in this despicable, dysfunctional, uncensored list?
>
>That's because it has been a very useful list for a very long time.
>
>Don't recall seeing your name back then.
>
>> Surely you have all you need elsewhere?
>
>How do you kill an unmoderated list? By flooding it with shit.

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Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:50:49AM +, oshwm wrote:
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> If you are already part of functional censored lists why would you be 
> interested in this despicable, dysfunctional, uncensored list?

That's because it has been a very useful list for a very long time.

Don't recall seeing your name back then.
 
> Surely you have all you need elsewhere?

How do you kill an unmoderated list? By flooding it with shit.


Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Nov 30, 2016 5:53 AM, "Tom"  wrote:
>
> However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became yet
another spam list.

Sorry for the spam, I am an eternal OT walking around the list.  I will try
to be more useful.  :)

- c.t.


Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread Steve Kinney
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On 11/30/2016 02:28 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> This thread illustrates my point.  CPunks has a whole ecosystem.
> 
> One might see some interesting political content, somewhat
> informed commentary on how State policy interacts with network
> security IRL, even (when the stars come 'round right and eldrich
> horrors stalk the night) a proper argument or two.  But bring
> hiking boots, binoculars and a compass.
> 
> :o)

Postscript:  A constructive suggestion.

Set up a shiny new list accessible only through the i2p network.  Go
there and look around; Eternal September has not arrived, because the
setup and normal operation of an i2p router are barriers to the
technically illiterate.

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Re: New Firefox/TorBrowser 0day in the wild

2016-11-30 Thread Ben Mezger
I guess not, I am not sure, but it looks like it's a Windows only
exploit. Wait for Firefox to release an update and prevent using Firefox
for any activity meanwhile.

On 29/11/16 22:16, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> On 11/29/2016 04:57 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
>> "This is an Javascript exploit actively used against TorBrowser NOW. It
>> consists of one HTML and one CSS file, both pasted below and also
>> de-obscured. The exact functionality is unknown but it's getting access to
>> "VirtualAlloc" in "kernel32.dll" and goes from there. Please fix ASAP. I
>> had to break the "thecode" line in two in order to post, remove ' + ' in
>> the middle to restore it."
>>
>> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2016-November/042639.html
> 
> Does this do anything against non-Windows systems?
> 
> 

-- 
Kind regards,
Ben Mezger


Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread oshwm
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If you are already part of functional censored lists why would you be 
interested in this despicable, dysfunctional, uncensored list?

Surely you have all you need elsewhere?


On 30 November 2016 11:42:13 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl  wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +, oshwm wrote:
>
>> I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if
>you want to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable
>:D
>
>I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike this
>list.
>
>I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
>
>If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.

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Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +, oshwm wrote:

> I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want 
> to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D

I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike this list.

I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.

If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.


Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread oshwm
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I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want to 
only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D


On 30 November 2016 10:57:14 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl  wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 09:45:47AM +0100, Tom wrote:
>
>> However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became
>> yet another spam list.
>
>Indeed. Anyone care to volunteer for moderation duty?

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Re: Are there crypto discussions on this forum

2016-11-30 Thread Tom
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 09:50:52PM -0300, juan wrote:
>   Anyway, why should I bother getting the spelling of your
>   fucking, imperial, nazi langauge right? 

Die Nazisprache ist immer noch Deutsch, Du Vollhonk.

However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became
yet another spam list.



- Tom