Re: Why Fascists Have No Right To Free Speech Whatsoever [was - Re: free speech 'marches on' as they say]

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 07:47:11PM -0800, Razer wrote:
> On 01/05/2017 07:03 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > And ... "Razer" refuses to denounce the kidnapping, torture and
> > humiliation of a disabled man, cuz "muh fascists".
> >
> > In this brave new world, such dispicable acts are barely worthy
> > mentioning, but those whose hearts ache at such insanity, and
> > unfortunately let loose a few angry words online in response to
> > such abomination, such evil, must be "killed where you find them",
> > says "Razer", proudly using his real name.
> >
> > This one's actually official too:
> >
> >"The Ministry of Truth's daily award goes to: "Razer"
> > for transparency and insightful public debate, above
> > and beyond expectation."
> > 2017-01-06
> > Executive Director of Vice, Ministry of Truth
> >
> >
> > Zenaan
> 
> Get psychiatric help.
> 
> Rr

Thanks for the good example of Lesson 1.

"When on a losing streak, never speak to substance."

Lesson 1 from the Rules For Sophisticated Discussion, that is.

US Government Changes Russian Election Hack Lie

[Razer]

The Russian Hacking accusation changes:

Three *Unnamed* US officials now claim Russia gave hacked material from
DNC to WikiLeaks via some 'Third Party'. The only Third Party I know of
is a former UK ambassador who claims he delivered the DNC dox to
@Wikileaks from a disgruntled DNC worker. Will they claim that worker is
a Russian Mole? The Dems are already insinuating that the
president-elect is...

Standby, and never mind the Fascist behind the curtain who will soon be
your ruler... #DonaldTrump.

Not a Russian mole. The Ugly American

http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2017/01/new-twist-on-fake-news-russian-hacking.html


also see: @thegrugq @ Twitter

>
> "There’s been a lot of predictions that France and Germany are next
> due for Russian active measures targeting the elections."
>
https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/817185048642265089

Since they're totally under cyber-surveillance now, it WOULD be a great
time for Russia to Hack an election. Someone's full of shit.

The whole narrative is... How did Mark Twain put it?

>
> Why, the other pretext was thin enough, but this is thinner than ever;
> the other was tissue, tinfoil, fish-bladder, but this is gold-leaf...
>
PLYMOUTH ROCK AND THE PILGRIMS
ADDRESS AT THE FIRST ANNUAL DINNER, N. E. SOCIETY
PHILADELPHIA, DECEMBER 22, 1881

http://twain.lib.virginia.edu/onstage/pilgrims.html

The Lie of White Identity [Was: Why Fascists Have No Right To Free Speech Whatsoever]

[Razer]

> WHITENESS began not as a racial or ethnic or national identity
> emerging from a people’s shared experience, but as a legal construct.
> Whiteness was designed to distinguish between poor English-speaking
> men brought to North America as indentured servants (after their
> communal lands were privatized by law and force) and people kidnapped
> from Africa and enslaved by the wealthy.
>
> Neither group could vote before or after the “American revolution,”
> but the former Englishmen (and English-speaking lowland Scots) could
> eventually “earn” their freedom, buying their way into citizenship by
> acquiring land after paying off their bond. On the other hand,
> abducted Africans were doomed to spend their whole lives in slavery;
> in the rare event they were “granted” freedom by their enslavers, they
> still would not be welcomed as participants in civil society.
>
> The intent and effect of legislating a new division of people was to
> create an overseer class, a class of poor “white” men who believed
> that they had an interest in enforcing the enslavement of Africans and
> their descendants.  Laws granted them a degree of privilege, the
> promise of greater wealth and freedom if they made society (including
> the torture of Black people and the eradiation of Indigenous people)
> continue to run smoothly.
>
> Whiteness has its antecedent in the British colonial policy in Ireland
> which put displaced lowland Scots in the position of enforcing British
> rule. Ireland’s long internal conflicts are religious only to the
> degree that the Irish brand of Catholicism maintains elements of
> indigenous relationship to the land, while the Presbyterianism of the
> ethnically Scottish inhabitants of Ireland is sparser, more
> conventionally monotheistic, and bears no association with holy places
> or Pagan festivals. Many of the poor European people conscripted into
> enforcing slavery were members of this English-speaking Scottish
> diaspora, displaced again from the first land they were used to
> colonize, relocated to the American south.
>
> FOR LATER generations of European immigrants, becoming white was a
> privilege granted only after passing through a painful process of
> assimilation, sacrificing identity, memory, custom, and language. They
> also had to agree to participate in the enforcement of white
> supremacism. James Baldwin wrote:
>
> “No one was white before he/she came to America.  It took
> generations, and a vast amount of coercion, before this became a white
> country.”
>
> My great-grandparents came from a colonized country where their
> language was outlawed and children were taken from their families to
> be indoctrinated in English.  My great-grandfather had taken up arms
> against the occuppiers.   My great-grandmother spoke no English even
> decades after the last other Irish speakers she knew had died.  They
> lived on the top of the highest hill in Lynn, MA, so they could always
> look down and see if anyone was coming for them.
>
> It was the Ku Klux Klan that did come, burning a cross at High Rock
> Tower to try to drive the Irish out.  My grandfather watched while my
> great-grandfather kept him quiet and still.  To the Klan, the Irish
> were not white. Nor were they white to the Anglo-American Christians,
> including the famously liberal Rev. Henry Ward Beecher, who vilified
> the Irish “race” a generation before.
>
> My grandfather spoke no Irish. He worked for General Electric. In his
> lifetime an Irish-American became President. And he cursed the first
> and second generation immigrants from Europe who were not yet white –
> the Jews whose whiteness remains contested among the alt-right now.
>
> So what is whiteness? 


Find out before the alt-right says you ain't white enough:
https://itsgoingdown.org/lie-white-identity/

Re: Why Fascists Have No Right To Free Speech Whatsoever [was - Re: free speech 'marches on' as they say]

[Razer]

On 01/05/2017 07:03 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> And ... "Razer" refuses to denounce the kidnapping, torture and
> humiliation of a disabled man, cuz "muh fascists".
>
> In this brave new world, such dispicable acts are barely worthy
> mentioning, but those whose hearts ache at such insanity, and
> unfortunately let loose a few angry words online in response to
> such abomination, such evil, must be "killed where you find them",
> says "Razer", proudly using his real name.
>
> This one's actually official too:
>
>"The Ministry of Truth's daily award goes to: "Razer"
> for transparency and insightful public debate, above
> and beyond expectation."
> 2017-01-06
> Executive Director of Vice, Ministry of Truth
>
>
> Zenaan

Get psychiatric help.

Rr

Re: Why Fascists Have No Right To Free Speech Whatsoever [was - Re: free speech 'marches on' as they say]

[Zenaan Harkness]

And ... "Razer" refuses to denounce the kidnapping, torture and
humiliation of a disabled man, cuz "muh fascists".

In this brave new world, such dispicable acts are barely worthy
mentioning, but those whose hearts ache at such insanity, and
unfortunately let loose a few angry words online in response to
such abomination, such evil, must be "killed where you find them",
says "Razer", proudly using his real name.

This one's actually official too:

   "The Ministry of Truth's daily award goes to: "Razer"
for transparency and insightful public debate, above
and beyond expectation."
2017-01-06
Executive Director of Vice, Ministry of Truth


Zenaan



On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 06:06:46PM -0800, Razer wrote:
> Because they don't debate your position.
> 
> They threaten your life instead.
> 
> They have no interest in your position. You have no rights.
> 
> Kill them when you find them.
> 
> They are the human societal cancer they accuse others of being.
> 
> It's always 'those other people'. Then one day you're 'those other people'.
> 
> Rr
> 
> 
> Shaun King at the New York Daily News:
> 
> > Have received over 40 death threats today after publishing this.
> 
> https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/817129762724384768
> 
> 
> > My Latest. The simple reason why I won't be fighting for justice for
> > the young man who was assaulted in Chicago.
> 
> https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/817033697627148288
> 
> 
> > In Chicago, at least four young black men and women did something
> > truly awful. On a damn Facebook Live video made public Wednesday, they
> > allegedly kidnapped a mentally challenged white man, beat him,
> > humiliated him, cut his hair, and yelled “f--k Donald Trump” and “f--k
> > white people” while filming it for the world to see.
> >
> > [...]


> On 01/05/2017 05:29 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > Daily Stormer March on Whitefish Moves Forward
> > January 5, 2017
> >
> > http://www.dailystormer.com/march-on-whitefish-moves-forward/
> >
> > http://bbs.dailystormer.com/t/march-on-whitefish-moves-forward/75165
> >
> > "a representative of Hamas will be in attendance, and will give a speech
> >  about the international threat of the Jews"
> >
> > "There was a time [the ACLU] would have been rushing out there to defend
> >  our rights in this situation"
> >
> >
> > Remember goys and gals - it's warm up there in the boondocks, so
> > remember to bring your parasol as you hail victory  :D
> >
> >
> > Thought 2016 was enlivening? Ain't seen nuthin yet whiggers...
> 

National University of Ireland schedules 3 day conference to debate that Israel has no right to exist

[Zenaan Harkness]

Interesting times to say the least:


National University of Ireland schedules 3 day conference to
debate that Israel has no right to exist
http://bbs.dailystormer.com/t/national-university-of-ireland-schedules-3-day-conference-to-debate-that-israel-has-no-right-to-exist/75323
https://rehmat1.com/2017/01/05/irish-university-israel-has-no-right-to-exist/
The conference is organized by Israel-born professor Oren Ben-Dor whose
earlier attempt to hold a similar conference at the Southampton
University was cancelled by then home secretary Theresa May under Jewish
Lobby pressure in March 2015.



http://bbs.dailystormer.com/t/tom-hanks-jigaboo-granddaughter-reminds-us-why-race-mixing-shouldnt-happen/73915/102
http://www.tradyouth.org/2015/07/jewish-baby-boom/
“There was a time in my 20s when everything I learned about the history
of racism made me hate myself, my Whiteness, my ancestors… and my
descendants,” squawked Ali Michael’s Huffpo act of contrition. “I
remember deciding that I couldn’t have biological children because I
didn’t want to propagate my privilege biologically.” Ali was writing in
defense of Rachel Dolezal, and to encourage the creators and maintainers
of Western civilization to forgo reproduction by pretending to be one of
us. “If I was going to pass on my privilege, I wanted to pass it on to
someone who doesn’t have racial privilege; so I planned to adopt” she
followed with anguish.
...
This isn’t a question of cognitive dissonance, as some have theorized.
It’s not misguided idealism from the notoriously materialistic tribe.
This is Jews when they’re 2%, and don’t have the numbers to treat us
like the people of Gaza. This is the passive-aggressive ideological
violence that misuses modern technology, weaponizes concentrated
capital, and employs blackmail and guilt to convince and compel targets
of Jewish venom to gradually thin themselves out.
That is, until Ali and friends figure out the logistics on how to do us
like they did the women and children of Cyprus and Cyrene in the Kitos
War.

Why Fascists Have No Right To Free Speech Whatsoever [was - Re: free speech 'marches on' as they say]

[Razer]

Because they don't debate your position.

They threaten your life instead.

They have no interest in your position. You have no rights.

Kill them when you find them.

They are the human societal cancer they accuse others of being.

It's always 'those other people'. Then one day you're 'those other people'.

Rr


Shaun King at the New York Daily News:

> Have received over 40 death threats today after publishing this.

https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/817129762724384768


> My Latest. The simple reason why I won't be fighting for justice for
> the young man who was assaulted in Chicago.

https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/817033697627148288


> In Chicago, at least four young black men and women did something
> truly awful. On a damn Facebook Live video made public Wednesday, they
> allegedly kidnapped a mentally challenged white man, beat him,
> humiliated him, cut his hair, and yelled “f--k Donald Trump” and “f--k
> white people” while filming it for the world to see.
>
> [...]
>
>  I hate violence. Nearly 100 people are killed with guns per day in
> this country. Every 98 seconds someone is sexually assaulted in this
> country. Hate crimes are on the rise from coast to coast. Our incoming
> President of the United States admitted that he sexually assaults
> women. Women all over the country came forward to allegedly confirm
> it. His first wife, in a sworn deposition, said that he raped and
> brutally assaulted her. Ivana Trump later said she didn’t want the
> allegation to be considered in a literal or criminal sense.
>
> This country is sick.
>
> However, I see thousands of white folk online asking me why I’m not
> speaking out about it.
>
> Beyond the fact that I literally just got back in the country a few
> hours ago with my wife and five kids, my answer is simple. As soon as
> I clicked on the first official story about the incident, I saw that
> four people had already been arrested for it. If more people were
> involved, whether it was two more black folk or 20, guess what,
> they’ll be charged and arrested, and convicted, and sentenced, and
> jailed for it as well. We will see their mugshots and videos of them
> walking into court with jail clothes any minute now. That’s how
> justice works in America.
>
> This country does not need me to speak out on crimes committed by
> black folk because nobody in this country is held more responsible for
> the crimes they commit, and even the crimes they don’t commit, than
> black folk in America. Right now, young black men in America are
> incarcerated at a rate higher than South Africans were at the height
> of Apartheid.
>
> I speak out on injustice. What happened to this man in Chicago was
> terrible. It was criminal. I hate it, but guess what — justice was
> swift. It was miraculously swift.
>
>
> Justice is always swift and easy when black folk mess up, but you know
> who’s not in jail right now? George Zimmerman.
>
> You know who’s not in jail right now? The officers who fired 41 shots
> at and killed Amadou Diallo on the doorstep of his Bronx home.
>
> You know who’s not in jail right now? The officers who killed Eric
> Garner and Rekia Boyd.
>
> You know who’s not in jail? The men who murdered Emmett Till.
>
> Neither are the two white men who recently lured a mentally challenged
> black student into a locker room and rammed a hanger up his rectum.
>
> We march for them. We protest for them. I write about them and
> Facebook and tweet about them — because justice has not been served in
> those cases. It almost never is.
>
> Just Tuesday, a video surfaced of a police officer in a North Carolina
> high school slamming a petite 15-year-old black girl so hard on her
> head that he gave her a concussion.
>
> Do you think he’s in jail? Nah. He’s on paid leave.
>
> That’s always the story. These are the people and families I spend my
> limited time advocating for.
>
> So no, I won’t be writing angry tweets about what these folk did in
> Chicago. They are already in jail. They will be punished, I am sure,
> to the fullest extent of the law, but I’ve written about case after
> case after case of drug offenses and incidents of sexual assault and
> even murders committed by white folk where the system gave them a
> helping hand. The Stanford swimmer, Brock Turner, who was caught in
> the act of raping a woman, but spent a summer in jail for it instead
> of the 10 to 20 years he deserved, comes to mind.
>
> Black folk and white folk both use and sell drugs at almost identical
> rates, with the rates for whites actually being slightly higher in
> both categories, but African-Americans are sent to prison at four to
> 10 times the rates of whites for various drug offenses.
>
> Black folk are held super-responsible for every mistake and criminal
> offense made. We rarely have to march for justice in our communities.
> American prisons are full of black folk who are being held responsible
> for every mistake they’ve ever made.
>
> I have a childhood friend 

Re: Call for Cypherpunks historians

[putnam]

Bruce Fenton:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm working on a book about blockchain tech and one chapter covers some of 
> the earlier discussions which originated from this list.
> 
> Anyone who'd be willing to be interviewed on 1) the earlier days of this list 
> 2) thoughts on blockchain tech, Bitcoin and overlap between that tech and 
> Cypherpunks -- your help would be appreciated 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Bruce Fenton 
> 
I'm sure you're book will be as good as everything else you do. Seems to
me the only thing you do well is cut off Andreas so you can make sure
the audience knows that you paid for his appearance.

-- 
putnam | 0xE910A14357F33056

Re: Call for Cypherpunks historians

[Steve Kinney]

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On 01/05/2017 12:47 PM, Bruce Fenton wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm working on a book about blockchain tech and one chapter covers
> some of the earlier discussions which originated from this list.
> 
> Anyone who'd be willing to be interviewed on 1) the earlier days of
> this list 2) thoughts on blockchain tech, Bitcoin and overlap
> between that tech and Cypherpunks -- your help would be appreciated
> 
Archives of the list are available, providing the primary vs. only
source relevant to "discussions from this list."  Context, opinions
and subjective impressions from relevant parties can be solicited from
people identified in those records.  The ones who used their True
Names, that is.

:)


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Re: Call for Cypherpunks historians

[oshwm]

On 5 January 2017 19:26:59 GMT+00:00, MARK GORE  wrote:
>Maybe Satoshi N is reading list as he released white paper here. _Mg
>
>Communicator...
>
>> On Jan 5, 2017, at 12:47, Bruce Fenton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm working on a book about blockchain tech and one chapter covers
>some of the earlier discussions which originated from this list.
>> 
>> Anyone who'd be willing to be interviewed on 1) the earlier days of
>this list 2) thoughts on blockchain tech, Bitcoin and overlap between
>that tech and Cypherpunks -- your help would be appreciated 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Bruce Fenton 

He (or she) would be an idiot to respond tho :)

Re: Call for Cypherpunks historians

[MARK GORE]

Maybe Satoshi N is reading list as he released white paper here. _Mg

Communicator...

> On Jan 5, 2017, at 12:47, Bruce Fenton  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm working on a book about blockchain tech and one chapter covers some of 
> the earlier discussions which originated from this list.
> 
> Anyone who'd be willing to be interviewed on 1) the earlier days of this list 
> 2) thoughts on blockchain tech, Bitcoin and overlap between that tech and 
> Cypherpunks -- your help would be appreciated 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Bruce Fenton 

Re: Cryptocat -vs- PGP (https://crypto.cat/)

[Razer]

AFAICT this is not available for 32 bit computers, which means only
people with access to newer machines can use it. Tails will soon do the
same. Essentially abandoning people in dictatorial 3rd world countries
(and poor people in the 1st and 2nd ones) who don't have mucho buckos.
Cutsey cat logo though...

Moral. SOME PEOPLE think only affluent people who can afford newer
computers are entitled to internet security. I'll stick with qTox and
Telegram. Signal requires one expose their phone number and THAT is
utter idiocy, unless, again, you're affluent enough to have the money to
spend on a phone used solely for that purpose.

Rr

Call for Cypherpunks historians

[Bruce Fenton]

Hi all,

I'm working on a book about blockchain tech and one chapter covers some of the 
earlier discussions which originated from this list.

Anyone who'd be willing to be interviewed on 1) the earlier days of this list 
2) thoughts on blockchain tech, Bitcoin and overlap between that tech and 
Cypherpunks -- your help would be appreciated 

Thanks!

Bruce Fenton 

Re: "right" vs permission, to immigrate - "Japan: No Muslims, no terrorists"

[Razer]

On 01/04/2017 10:00 PM, juan wrote:
> \
>> Much as Neonazis are leeches on
>> whatever host society they infest.
>   
>   speaking of leeeches...
>

Classic example. Tail-ending with absofuckinglutely nothing to add.

Rr

free speech 'marches on' as they say

[Zenaan Harkness]

Daily Stormer March on Whitefish Moves Forward
January 5, 2017

http://www.dailystormer.com/march-on-whitefish-moves-forward/

http://bbs.dailystormer.com/t/march-on-whitefish-moves-forward/75165

"a representative of Hamas will be in attendance, and will give a speech
 about the international threat of the Jews"

"There was a time [the ACLU] would have been rushing out there to defend
 our rights in this situation"


Remember goys and gals - it's warm up there in the boondocks, so
remember to bring your parasol as you hail victory  :D


Thought 2016 was enlivening? Ain't seen nuthin yet whiggers...

FBI at least partially owned

[Georgi Guninski]

FBI at least partially owned

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/05/hacker_claims_fbi_cms_zero_day_hack_dumps_155_purported_logins/


Hacker claims FBI CMS zero day hack, dumps 155 purported logins