Re: Advice, please, any and all accepted
On 05/06/2017 10:58 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Sat, May 6, 2017, at 11:18 PM, Marina Brown > wrote: > >> Honestly - how many people are deeply and truly loyal to any state ? >> I think you mistake fear and resignation for loyalty. >> >> Oh - and take the anti-gay bigotry and shove it where the sun does not >> shine. > > Oh, Marina, my dear... I never have patience enough to read Mark's > messages, so they are solemnly ignored and considered spam, Well - i lost my spam filters - you know how thunderbird breaks sometimes. Now i get to plonk all these ignoramuses again ;-) >aff... > But after reading these stupid things, I can just say that he should > try to suck a c0ck. It's a gorgeous sensation and I sincerely > recommend it. > Right ! > Believe me, Mark, being a "c0cksucker" is pretty fun and there are a > lot of us in all the hackerspaces in all the countries of the whole > world. Being an intellectually limited guy is *not* an excuse for > being so full of stupid prejudices. Go to suck some c0cks or put them > where "the sun doesn't shine", please. > > Marina, thank you, it was pretty fun to learn that the expression > "where the sun doesn't shine" exists in English too. My mom's first > language isn't Portuguese and she innocently said sometimes that "her > daughter (moi!) lives where the sun doesn't shine" because I live in a > bit dark place, in the back of the building, where I receive less > sunlight than the other apartments, hahaha!! This place is > comfortable, but my mom and all my plants hate it. They sincerely > love the sun and avoid places where it doesn't shine, hihi... :D > > Love you and hope you're doing good. Be well, baby. <3 > As well as can be expected in the land of the orange faced wannabe tyrant. Big hugs ! --- Marina signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Fixed-state ciphers vulnerable to side channel analysis attacks
The simplest error correction code is a repetition code. This has escaped many peoples attention. https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/382 " The frequency at which a key should be changed in order to maintain an minimum level of protection depending on the number of unrolled rounds computed per cycle is explored." Here some attacks were made against Simon and Speck. In my lay opinion, RC4 is more secure for the internet of things. The greatest vulnerability for computers is memory bound errors, not... uh. Malicious javascript sending a DDOS on an 100 megabit uplink to a server so a passive adversary can collect ciphertexts and do statistical analysis. Naturally everyone says that no one was fired for using AES, but who was fired for not putting a password on a database? I think if the RC4 round function was applied key length bytes more times (128-bit key, 16 more key schedule rounds), the first few bytes will have less bias, and the only related key recovery attacks apply to the first few bytes. An additional xor to mask the output or input of a byte lookup may improve things. Or use an ARX cipher as a NLFSR, like the Lex cipher. In any case, don't use error correction codes in cryptography. This is some kinda multidimensional chess.
Re: Advice, please, any and all accepted
On Sat, May 6, 2017, at 11:18 PM, Marina Brown wrote: > Honestly - how many people are deeply and truly loyal to any state ? > I think you mistake fear and resignation for loyalty. > > Oh - and take the anti-gay bigotry and shove it where the sun does not > shine. Oh, Marina, my dear... I never have patience enough to read Mark's messages, so they are solemnly ignored and considered spam, aff... But after reading these stupid things, I can just say that he should try to suck a c0ck. It's a gorgeous sensation and I sincerely recommend it. Believe me, Mark, being a "c0cksucker" is pretty fun and there are a lot of us in all the hackerspaces in all the countries of the whole world. Being an intellectually limited guy is *not* an excuse for being so full of stupid prejudices. Go to suck some c0cks or put them where "the sun doesn't shine", please. Marina, thank you, it was pretty fun to learn that the expression "where the sun doesn't shine" exists in English too. My mom's first language isn't Portuguese and she innocently said sometimes that "her daughter (moi!) lives where the sun doesn't shine" because I live in a bit dark place, in the back of the building, where I receive less sunlight than the other apartments, hahaha!! This place is comfortable, but my mom and all my plants hate it. They sincerely love the sun and avoid places where it doesn't shine, hihi... :D Love you and hope you're doing good. Be well, baby. <3
Re: Uber faces criminal probe over Greyball s/w used to evade regulation
On 05/06/2017 06:21 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 05/06/2017 08:11 PM, Razer wrote: >> It gave spotters for regulators in Portland 'false screens', essentially >> blackballing the uber user. >> >> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-tech-crime-exclusive-idUSKBN1802U1 >> >> >> In other news Uber's billionaire owners are running beg ads in the app >> for users to donate to a medical insurance fund for drivers (b/c they >> don't think it's their job... Like WalMart). > Is Lyft any better? Is zTrip any better? If not, what should we use instead? > A taxi? You can call them. Most will deliver a car at an appointed time if you want. (I used to go grocery shopping for less-than-ambulatory senior citizens with the meter running regularly and pick up whiskey for housebound drunks) If you use the same company often most DO allow "Personals"... driver of your choice, if available. Don't know about ztrip, but here's a good writeup on Lyft, and the whole "Sharing" biz in general by Marxist sociologist Darwin Bond-Graham Sharing Rides, Hoarding Profits How the SF Bay area's technology elite are destroying poor & people of color's incomes by 'Disruptive Innovation' The winners and losers in many cases of disruption are split along existing racial and class lines of inequality. Those with little economic or political power to defend themselves from the disruptors are seeing their livelihoods and communities turned upside down. Their small businesses are being destroyed. Their communities are becoming unaffordable… … “Disruption” is the zeitgeist of Silicon Valley’s tech industry, especially in the realm of startups. The mythos goes like this: small scrappy hackers with very little capital and a few computers can create new business models that will topple older fossilized companies, even whole industries. In the process the economy will become more efficient and everyone will have more choices. We all win thanks to the new Internet-enabled economy. That’s not at all what is happening in reality, however. The ideology of disruption goes back a long way in the annals theorizing capitalism, but the current ideology really owes more to Clayton Christensen, a Harvard Business School professor and devout Mormon who has built his academic career on case studies of disruptors. Christensen’s seminal 1998 article in the Harvard Business Review on disruption tells a story about dominant companies atop their industries —Firestone, Xerox, IBM— that were caught flat footed, and in several cases destroyed, by their smaller creative competitors. They failed to innovate and grow beyond their core markets. They failed to recognize the potential of a new technology that would make their existing products and services obsolete. This has fidelity with the actual history of American business. Christensen, along with his son Matthew, manages a hedge fund that purports to bet on disruptors and short the stock of bumbling giants. Christensen also sponsors a think tank he named after himself, the Christensen Institute, which, according to its web site is, “dedicated to improving the world through disruptive innovation.” California’s tech entrepreneurs have embraced Christensenian disruption. The big case studies in tech that seem to confirm Christensen’s theory are well known. Digital cameras destroyed film. Personal computers displaced mainframes as the core hardware business, and laptops have since eaten into a huge share of the personal computer market. Now mobile devices are eroding PC sales. None was ever seen as a threat to the existing dominant product and producer, but displacement happened nonetheless. Tapes replaced vinyl, CDs replaced tapes, but MP3s and iTunes-like services have replaced CDs. Cloud is displacing both the idea of storing your data on physical drives you own. Software as a service is chipping away at the idea of buying and owning software. And so on… In a lot of cases disruption ends up being a battle of big corporations for market share. Consumers and employees within the industry aren’t necessarily better or worse off when the smoke clears and a winner emerges with a new technology and business model. But the tech boom today is characterized by a another kind of disruption. It’s social disruption. New technologies and business models don’t just attack the existing dominant corporations; they attack social relations and transform non-business spheres of life into methodical instances of economic exchange from which the new tech innovators extract revenue. The tech boom is also characterized by disruption of smaller competitive markets by emergent tech monopolists backed ultimately by huge pools of private equity and giant, monopoly-seeking corporations
Re: [WAR] Duterte backs down "war on drugs" as "UN Special Rapporteur" Agnes Callamard surprise visits
On 05/06/2017 10:06 PM, Mirimir wrote: > On 05/06/2017 03:26 AM, John Newman wrote: >> >> >>> On May 6, 2017, at 6:39 AM, [some asshole] wrote: >>> >>> Probably shoulda CCed the list. >>> >>> Our middle "Western" ground of "The War on Drugs" is an absolute, >>> utter failure, if your intention is to reduce drug use and remove the >>> incentives from the drug market. >>> >>> If your intention is to maximise profits, and create as many problems >>> in society as possible so that people stay focused on shit, and don't >>> have time nor energy to unite behind real problems, like almost >>> completely undemocractic governments, extensive corporate violations >>> of our humans rights, and the private banks, then The War on Drugs is >>> the greatest invention since sliced bread. >>> >>> From this narrow perspective, almost ANYthing is better than the War >>> On Drugs - whether the extreme of Duterte, or the liberal "sanity" as >>> some view it of treating adults as adults, rather than treating all >>> of society as children, and allowing individual humans to do as they >>> choose, with regards to their own bodies (more below). >> >> Wrong, WRONG you goddamn hypocrite. The extreme of Duterte is NOT >> better than the "war on drugs", it's merely the logical extension of >> the entire absurdity, taken to a fucking horrific level. > > Obviously. > >> Obviously you understand drugs prohibition is an absurd outrage on >> human freedom and the cause of all the violence associated with >> "trafficking", as well as nearly all the problems associated with >> addiction, and everything that this spills down into. Why are you >> such an unabashed apologist for authoritarians? > > In a word, lulz :) > > Duterte is a disgrace. I would have loved to have visited the home of my anscestors but now while that homicidal tyrant and his followers are still in power. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Advice, please, any and all accepted
On 05/06/2017 08:29 PM, \0xDynamite wrote: >>> Given that hierarchal power structures enabled and enforced by the >>> State are the major cause of the greatest collective problems >>> faced by the human race, the solution to the greatest collective >>> problems faced by the human race is a bigger more powerful State! > > That is the solution for those who are enlightened. The masses are > truly the "major cause" of the greatest collective problems faces by > the human race". They are addicted, callous, so no empathy or > remorse, and destructive. I > > In short, they are clinically psychopathic. No need to blame the > state, they are already part of the "super state" through their blind > loyalty to the powers above. > >> seriously >> >> I was being sarcastic when I wrote that. I figured the clown nose >> smiley face would tip readers off. >> >> But if you find a way to implement a Global SuperState, by all means >> do so, as fast and as hard as possible. Nothing would accelerate the >> collapse of the industrial age global economy faster, > > Exactly. The way is already found. It was pregnant with possibilties > on the hackerspaces wiki under New World Order. The thing is, it's > miscarried due to the fight against religion by queer politics. Total > fuckups. Of all the problems in the world, cocksuckers getting tax > breaks for "gay marriage" wasn't on the fucking priority list. > > Truth is there were four prophesies and 4 secular reasons why dramatic > shift would occur or have to occur. The only hangup is that some > fucking damage has to happen to the secularists and Christians for > their complete failure. I mean Biblical level damage. > > Marxos > Honestly - how many people are deeply and truly loyal to any state ? I think you mistake fear and resignation for loyalty. Oh - and take the anti-gay bigotry and shove it where the sun does not shine. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [WAR] Duterte backs down "war on drugs" as "UN Special Rapporteur" Agnes Callamard surprise visits
On 05/06/2017 03:26 AM, John Newman wrote: > > >> On May 6, 2017, at 6:39 AM, [some asshole] wrote: >> >> Probably shoulda CCed the list. >> >> Our middle "Western" ground of "The War on Drugs" is an absolute, >> utter failure, if your intention is to reduce drug use and remove the >> incentives from the drug market. >> >> If your intention is to maximise profits, and create as many problems >> in society as possible so that people stay focused on shit, and don't >> have time nor energy to unite behind real problems, like almost >> completely undemocractic governments, extensive corporate violations >> of our humans rights, and the private banks, then The War on Drugs is >> the greatest invention since sliced bread. >> >> From this narrow perspective, almost ANYthing is better than the War >> On Drugs - whether the extreme of Duterte, or the liberal "sanity" as >> some view it of treating adults as adults, rather than treating all >> of society as children, and allowing individual humans to do as they >> choose, with regards to their own bodies (more below). > > Wrong, WRONG you goddamn hypocrite. The extreme of Duterte is NOT > better than the "war on drugs", it's merely the logical extension of > the entire absurdity, taken to a fucking horrific level. Obviously. > Obviously you understand drugs prohibition is an absurd outrage on > human freedom and the cause of all the violence associated with > "trafficking", as well as nearly all the problems associated with > addiction, and everything that this spills down into. Why are you > such an unabashed apologist for authoritarians? In a word, lulz :)
Re: Uber faces criminal probe over Greyball s/w used to evade regulation
On 05/06/2017 08:11 PM, Razer wrote: > It gave spotters for regulators in Portland 'false screens', essentially > blackballing the uber user. > > http://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-tech-crime-exclusive-idUSKBN1802U1 > > > In other news Uber's billionaire owners are running beg ads in the app > for users to donate to a medical insurance fund for drivers (b/c they > don't think it's their job... Like WalMart). Is Lyft any better? Is zTrip any better? If not, what should we use instead? -- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Advice, please, any and all accepted
Why am I sorry I dug this idiot's post out of my junkfiles? On 05/06/2017 05:29 PM, \0xDynamite wrote: > That is the solution for those who are enlightened.
Uber faces criminal probe over Greyball s/w used to evade regulation
It gave spotters for regulators in Portland 'false screens', essentially blackballing the uber user. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-tech-crime-exclusive-idUSKBN1802U1 In other news Uber's billionaire owners are running beg ads in the app for users to donate to a medical insurance fund for drivers (b/c they don't think it's their job... Like WalMart). Rr
Re: Advice, please, any and all accepted
>> Given that hierarchal power structures enabled and enforced by the >> State are the major cause of the greatest collective problems >> faced by the human race, the solution to the greatest collective >> problems faced by the human race is a bigger more powerful State! That is the solution for those who are enlightened. The masses are truly the "major cause" of the greatest collective problems faces by the human race". They are addicted, callous, so no empathy or remorse, and destructive. I In short, they are clinically psychopathic. No need to blame the state, they are already part of the "super state" through their blind loyalty to the powers above. > seriously > > I was being sarcastic when I wrote that. I figured the clown nose > smiley face would tip readers off. > > But if you find a way to implement a Global SuperState, by all means > do so, as fast and as hard as possible. Nothing would accelerate the > collapse of the industrial age global economy faster, Exactly. The way is already found. It was pregnant with possibilties on the hackerspaces wiki under New World Order. The thing is, it's miscarried due to the fight against religion by queer politics. Total fuckups. Of all the problems in the world, cocksuckers getting tax breaks for "gay marriage" wasn't on the fucking priority list. Truth is there were four prophesies and 4 secular reasons why dramatic shift would occur or have to occur. The only hangup is that some fucking damage has to happen to the secularists and Christians for their complete failure. I mean Biblical level damage. Marxos
Re: Advice, please, any and all accepted
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The powerful cannot be condemned
The powerful cannot be condemned. The weak get crushed. Who gets crushed and who cannot be condemned? https://archive.is/ylBz9 Muckrock is clearly intimidated by John Young in this interview. They don't seem to be asking many follow up questions, it appears as if it is half scripted, with John Young free to troll them how they please. In fact it appears as if John Young lied... Recently Cryptome has become a non profit. Look at the Wau Holland Foundation. John Young is one of the most powerful men alive. Assange and anyone who genuinely supports him get crushed. Recently the media has condemned Trump's condemnation of the Deep State, but that hasn't occurred. What has occurred is several media personalities and a member of the opposing party confirming a conspiracy theory to appeal to the hopes of millions of overthrowing Trump. Strong responses to imaginary events because it is media that controls reality, not you or I. The ACLU protects the powerful by warping the definitions of power and weakness, thereby allowing the powerful to crush the weak. The obvious is right in front of you, if you dare look. If you dare listen. If you simply dared to defy the interests of the powerful. For the ACLU to think a certain kind of harassment is find is a pretty high bar to meet. I mean afterall, they think you should be wiretapped by the NSA, unless I have missed some repudiation of Jamal Jaffar's statements The ACLU is largely a criminal fraudulent organization, and the evidence is quite strong to support it. Speak out of both sides of their mouths if you will. The powerful have declared war on me, and I can, and will, single handedly destroy them all.
Re: Paul Carr leaves PandoDaily a note on the dresser and no cab fare...
Correction: PandoDaily has informed me Carr IS NOT leaving the filthy nest. The follow up he wrote sounded like he was going to be writing a "How to milk your llama, Back to the (Gentrified, Napa) Land" column as a freelancer. https://pando.com/2017/05/05/week-one-signal-and-noise/ On 05/06/2017 08:51 AM, Razer wrote: > > "For years, I've “called out” Silicon Valley's “bad apples”, but by the > start of 2017 it was impossible to distinguish maggot from apple from > the rotting barrel itself. My workdays were an endless perp walk of > sociopaths, psychopaths and criminals with names like (Pando investor) > Peter Thiel, Travis Kalanick, Emil Michael, Palmer Luckey, and Gurbaksh > Chahal – not to mention their enablers and co-conspirators like Paul > Graham and Sam Altman, Rachel Whetstone and Steve Hilton, Joe Lonsdale, > Arianna Huffington, Shervin Pishevar, and a thousand more like them. > > Never mind that actually writing about these clammy-palmed monsters > frequently made me want to punch a wall. Sometimes merely glancing at > tech headlines was enough to make me feel physically unwell. (As I was > writing that last sentence, Sarah called over to me: “Hey, did you hear > about this Memphis tech exec accused of multiple rapes?” I had not.) > > Please understand I'm not being hyperbolic when I say “physically > unwell.” Around the time America's tech royalty made its pilgrimage to > Trump Tower, I suddenly stopped sleeping through the night..." > > > In full with lottsa links: https://pando.com/2017/04/28/quitting-swamp/ > >
How to remote hijack computers using Intel's insecure chips: Just use an empty login string
How to remote hijack computers using Intel's insecure chips: Just use an empty login string https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/05/intel_amt_remote_exploit/
Paul Carr leaves PandoDaily a note on the dresser and no cab fare...
"For years, I've “called out” Silicon Valley's “bad apples”, but by the start of 2017 it was impossible to distinguish maggot from apple from the rotting barrel itself. My workdays were an endless perp walk of sociopaths, psychopaths and criminals with names like (Pando investor) Peter Thiel, Travis Kalanick, Emil Michael, Palmer Luckey, and Gurbaksh Chahal – not to mention their enablers and co-conspirators like Paul Graham and Sam Altman, Rachel Whetstone and Steve Hilton, Joe Lonsdale, Arianna Huffington, Shervin Pishevar, and a thousand more like them. Never mind that actually writing about these clammy-palmed monsters frequently made me want to punch a wall. Sometimes merely glancing at tech headlines was enough to make me feel physically unwell. (As I was writing that last sentence, Sarah called over to me: “Hey, did you hear about this Memphis tech exec accused of multiple rapes?” I had not.) Please understand I'm not being hyperbolic when I say “physically unwell.” Around the time America's tech royalty made its pilgrimage to Trump Tower, I suddenly stopped sleeping through the night..." In full with lottsa links: https://pando.com/2017/04/28/quitting-swamp/
Re: [WAR] Duterte backs down "war on drugs" as "UN Special Rapporteur" Agnes Callamard surprise visits
> On May 6, 2017, at 6:39 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>
> Probably shoulda CCed the list.
>
> Our middle "Western" ground of "The War on Drugs" is an absolute,
> utter failure, if your intention is to reduce drug use and remove the
> incentives from the drug market.
>
> If your intention is to maximise profits, and create as many problems
> in society as possible so that people stay focused on shit, and don't
> have time nor energy to unite behind real problems, like almost
> completely undemocractic governments, extensive corporate violations
> of our humans rights, and the private banks, then The War on Drugs is
> the greatest invention since sliced bread.
>
> From this narrow perspective, almost ANYthing is better than the War
> On Drugs - whether the extreme of Duterte, or the liberal "sanity" as
> some view it of treating adults as adults, rather than treating all
> of society as children, and allowing individual humans to do as they
> choose, with regards to their own bodies (more below).
Wrong, WRONG you goddamn hypocrite. The extreme of Duterte is NOT better than
the "war on drugs", it's merely the logical extension of the entire absurdity,
taken to a fucking horrific level.
Obviously you understand drugs prohibition is an absurd outrage on human
freedom and the cause of all the violence associated with "trafficking", as
well as nearly all the problems associated with addiction, and everything that
this spills down into. Why are you such an unabashed apologist for
authoritarians?
> Of course I do not condone extra judicial killing but as I mentioned
> below, the illegality of something rarely stopped those in power from
> abusing their ability to do illegal things.
>
> I don't expect nuance from TLA shills, but I'm greatful for the
> nuance and insight from others on the list.
>
> Regards,
> Zenaan
> - Forwarded message from 'Zenaan Harkness' -
> From: 'Zenaan Harkness'
> To: Jim
> Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 20:32:25 +1000
> Subject: Re: [WAR] Duterte backs down "war on drugs" as "UN Special
> Rapporteur" Agnes Callamard surprise visits
>
>> On Sat, May 06, 2017 at 06:57:12PM +1000, Jim wrote:
>> Zen,
>>
>> Do you consider Duterte to be a good and honourable president
>> because I view him as an egotistical, self-righteous mass murderer
>> with warped moral values. He ignores his own country's constitution
>> and legal due process because it interferes with his murderous
>> crusade against drug addicts and dealers.
>
> We don't know what he has faced, nor why he has made the decisions/
> followed the pathway he has chosen.
>
> It's very easy from our Western Ivory Castles ("main stream media and
> "democracy is king" programming), to think that others are simply
> wrong, immoral or even evil.
>
> Perhaps Duterte is an evil man.
>
> But I don't know whether he is or not. I won't say he is evil at this
> point.
>
> Although I am not a drug taker except for a cider at Christmas time,
> I believe that any "war on drugs" is merely a pretext for state
> control of what should be individual decisions - my body is mine, and
> it is my right to choose what I put in it.
>
> So, on principle, I think any "war on drugs" is against human rights.
> But I would balance that with some serious education too...
>
>
> Duterte? I hope he writes a book before he dies, to tell his side of
> his story, as I am very interested in it. If he is "evil like we
> imagine Adolf Hitler" was evil, then any book would be nothing but a
> whitewash. But we in the West very much think (and communicate) in
> dichotomies - black and white, good vs evil.
>
> What I do wonder is why Duterte has such stratospheric popularity in
> his own country.
>
> If he has handled "the drug problem", perhaps this has something to
> do with it. I think liberalisation/ individual personal autonomy is
> the preferred route to "solving the drug problem", and that's about
> as much as I can say, as I do not know any significant facts around
> Duterte except for the headlines.
>
> Fundamentally, any extra-judicial killing process is highly
> problematic - but that never stopped the Rothschilds or Hillary
> Clinton now did it?
>
> Also, glorifying extra-judicial killing would be highly problematic -
> we should certainly not do that.
>
>
> But Duterte? I think there's a lot more to the story that we get to
> hear. Perhaps. Hopefully one day we learn more of his story.
>
>
>> I hope Duterte is eventually prosecuted and imprisoned for his
>> appalling crimes and human rights violations. Drug dealers deserve
>> to be punished with long prison sentences instead of summary
>> executions, and how can he justify murdering drug addicts who need
>> help with their addiction and associated mental health issues?
>
> The Western approach, at least as we see it in Australia, is really
> messed up - just enough punishment to cause untold follow-on crime,
> mostly theft to fund addiction, with punishments which, evidently, do
99% of PGP-encrypted security reports to secur...@golang.org are bogus
Some sanity comedy for the bored: "99% of the PGP-encrypted emails we get to secur...@golang.org are bogus security reports. Whereas "cleartext" security reports are only about 5-10% bogus. Getting a PGP-encrypted email to secur...@golang.org has basically become a reliable signal that the report is going to be bogus, so I stopped caring about spending the 5 minutes decrypting the damn thing (logging in to the key server to get the key, remembering how to use gpg)." — Brad Fitzpatrick Quote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14123388 courtesy this week's LWN briefs https://lwn.net/Articles/721184/
Re: [WAR] Duterte backs down "war on drugs" as "UN Special Rapporteur" Agnes Callamard surprise visits
Probably shoulda CCed the list.
Our middle "Western" ground of "The War on Drugs" is an absolute,
utter failure, if your intention is to reduce drug use and remove the
incentives from the drug market.
If your intention is to maximise profits, and create as many problems
in society as possible so that people stay focused on shit, and don't
have time nor energy to unite behind real problems, like almost
completely undemocractic governments, extensive corporate violations
of our humans rights, and the private banks, then The War on Drugs is
the greatest invention since sliced bread.
>From this narrow perspective, almost ANYthing is better than the War
On Drugs - whether the extreme of Duterte, or the liberal "sanity" as
some view it of treating adults as adults, rather than treating all
of society as children, and allowing individual humans to do as they
choose, with regards to their own bodies (more below).
Of course I do not condone extra judicial killing but as I mentioned
below, the illegality of something rarely stopped those in power from
abusing their ability to do illegal things.
I don't expect nuance from TLA shills, but I'm greatful for the
nuance and insight from others on the list.
Regards,
Zenaan
- Forwarded message from 'Zenaan Harkness' -
From: 'Zenaan Harkness'
To: Jim
Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 20:32:25 +1000
Subject: Re: [WAR] Duterte backs down "war on drugs" as "UN Special Rapporteur"
Agnes Callamard surprise visits
On Sat, May 06, 2017 at 06:57:12PM +1000, Jim wrote:
> Zen,
>
> Do you consider Duterte to be a good and honourable president
> because I view him as an egotistical, self-righteous mass murderer
> with warped moral values. He ignores his own country's constitution
> and legal due process because it interferes with his murderous
> crusade against drug addicts and dealers.
We don't know what he has faced, nor why he has made the decisions/
followed the pathway he has chosen.
It's very easy from our Western Ivory Castles ("main stream media and
"democracy is king" programming), to think that others are simply
wrong, immoral or even evil.
Perhaps Duterte is an evil man.
But I don't know whether he is or not. I won't say he is evil at this
point.
Although I am not a drug taker except for a cider at Christmas time,
I believe that any "war on drugs" is merely a pretext for state
control of what should be individual decisions - my body is mine, and
it is my right to choose what I put in it.
So, on principle, I think any "war on drugs" is against human rights.
But I would balance that with some serious education too...
Duterte? I hope he writes a book before he dies, to tell his side of
his story, as I am very interested in it. If he is "evil like we
imagine Adolf Hitler" was evil, then any book would be nothing but a
whitewash. But we in the West very much think (and communicate) in
dichotomies - black and white, good vs evil.
What I do wonder is why Duterte has such stratospheric popularity in
his own country.
If he has handled "the drug problem", perhaps this has something to
do with it. I think liberalisation/ individual personal autonomy is
the preferred route to "solving the drug problem", and that's about
as much as I can say, as I do not know any significant facts around
Duterte except for the headlines.
Fundamentally, any extra-judicial killing process is highly
problematic - but that never stopped the Rothschilds or Hillary
Clinton now did it?
Also, glorifying extra-judicial killing would be highly problematic -
we should certainly not do that.
But Duterte? I think there's a lot more to the story that we get to
hear. Perhaps. Hopefully one day we learn more of his story.
> I hope Duterte is eventually prosecuted and imprisoned for his
> appalling crimes and human rights violations. Drug dealers deserve
> to be punished with long prison sentences instead of summary
> executions, and how can he justify murdering drug addicts who need
> help with their addiction and associated mental health issues?
The Western approach, at least as we see it in Australia, is really
messed up - just enough punishment to cause untold follow-on crime,
mostly theft to fund addiction, with punishments which, evidently, do
not stop people from becoming addicts, or from using at parties and
dying from overdoses (so many teenage lives cut short), or clogging
the courts, consuming incredible amounts of public resources ... the
list of problems does not end.
So, our "war on drugs" in Australia is absolutely, damned appalling!
Frankly, I am utterly convicted of the opinion that the 'war on
drugs' fuels the black market, maximises profits, disenchants the
youth (late teens - we don't treat them like adults capable of making
their own decisions, and neither do we treat adults like adults) and
keeps the bulk of society focused on "the drug problem" without
realising that most of that problem is created by the very rules of
the game ... arbitrary rules which try to treat adu
