Re: Geek captcha
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:41:18 -0700 Mirimir wrote: > On 07/16/2018 01:48 PM, juan wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:19 -0700 > > Steven Schear wrote: > > > >> I'm not sure but think the completion option should have been, "if none > >> click SHIP". > > > > funnily enough that mock captcha (it's a joke Georgi...) may be more > > solvable than the garbage that googlepentagon actually 'serves'. Their > > current captchas are just a bunch of small, blurry, noisy collections of > > random pixels. > > Yeah, I've noticed that they've become far blurrier over the past year > or so. I wonder what's up with that. Maybe harder training sets for AIs? well that's the same technical explanation that first came to my mind. Anyway, to the state the obvious, those captchas are not used to block bots or 'turing test' people. I also wonder if the websites using the captcha 'service' are choosing a high difficulty setting for their own retarded reasons. > > >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 8:55 AM Georgi Guninski > >> wrote: > >> > >>> What is this code doing? > >>> Looks like obfuscated javascript, not fully shown. > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 04:50:15PM -0700, Steven Schear wrote: > > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > >
Re: Geek captcha
Cool! Good move. While I have often shared many ideas and improvements online and IRL, I would have been much better off had I shared every idea I had early and often. I try to be much more parsimonious about the things that I save back. At Collision 2018 in New Orleans recently, I made possibly valuable suggestions for improvements and new directions to several startup founders who were all very appreciative for things they hadn't thought of or been aware of. Doesn't pay the bills, but it's fun. My queue is always too long anyway. Stephen On 7/16/18 1:54 PM, Steven Schear wrote: I guess I was lucky I got credited, by mentioning online, early concepts for the Warrant Canary and (what became known as) The Street Performer Protocol before others. On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 1:36 PM Stephen D. Williams mailto:s...@lig.net>> wrote: Cool! That's a good idea. I may implement it and similar things soon. Just for posterity, I independently invented CAPTCHA, I think a year before the CMU kids thought of it. I even began filing a patent while at my startup in the late 1990's, but we ran out of money. I should have continued, although the situation was murky. Imagine my surprise a couple years later at the IJCAI AI conferences in Acapulco when the CMU team presented CAPTCHA at an extra presentation at the end of the conference. I went on a lark because the point of the presentation wasn't clear until I was sitting in it. Just one of the many things I've thought of / invented that I didn't capitalize on, or give away in a timely fashion. Par for the course; many people will have similar ideas at similar points in time. sdw On 7/14/18 4:50 PM, Steven Schear wrote:
Re: Geek captcha
On 07/16/2018 01:48 PM, juan wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:19 -0700 > Steven Schear wrote: > >> I'm not sure but think the completion option should have been, "if none >> click SHIP". > > funnily enough that mock captcha (it's a joke Georgi...) may be more > solvable than the garbage that googlepentagon actually 'serves'. Their > current captchas are just a bunch of small, blurry, noisy collections of > random pixels. Yeah, I've noticed that they've become far blurrier over the past year or so. I wonder what's up with that. Maybe harder training sets for AIs? >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 8:55 AM Georgi Guninski wrote: >> >>> What is this code doing? >>> Looks like obfuscated javascript, not fully shown. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 04:50:15PM -0700, Steven Schear wrote: >>> >>> >>> > >
Re: Earth: Growth Is Ending, You Fucked Yourselves, Haha
On 07/16/2018 06:53 AM, John Newman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 08:03:13PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: >> On 07/14/2018 03:25 PM, juan wrote: >>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 14:53:55 -0700 >>> Mirimir wrote: _Accelerando_ and the "Flower Prince" trilogy both explore virtual dystopias. _Accelerando_ is especially dark. There's lots of running away in _Diaspora_, through multiple levels of reality, but in the end it's painted as pointless. >>> >>> >>> Oh, OK. I'll check those out then =) >> >> As I recall, _Accelerando_ is unremittingly dark. Although one could say >> that the "Flower Prince" trilogy has a happy ending for some, everyone >> and everything else gets unhappened. It's a fun read, though. > > Yeah, the brief "utopia" on Mars gets utterly destroyed (i think the whole > planet gets destroyed), there is a war between like 7 people who > control planet-sized constructs made of "computronium", all of them > trying to accomplish the "Great Common Task" (which is uploading all > sentient beings, with or without their consent as I recall), and all > sorts of other dark shit in Hannu's stuff. Yeah, Rajaniemi's "Flower Prince" trilogy is awesome. It doesn't have quite the visceral punch of Abercrombie's stuff. Or Morgan's stuff. Or Stover's Caine stuff. But damn, Jean le Flambeur is a trip. He's a riff on Arsène Lupin, Maurice Leblanc's gentleman thief. And actually, "he" is inaccurate. Because the novels feature several copies of him. One copy, Jean le Roi, is a distinct character. And at the start of _The Quantum Thief_, millions of copies are undergoing selection for cooperation ... | As always, before the warmind and I shoot each other, I try to | make small talk. | | “Prisons are always the same, don’t you think?” | | ... | | “Prisons are like airports used to be on Earth. No one wants to | be here. No one really lives here. We’re just passing through.” | | ... | | A fiery wink: the black pupil of its gun, flashing. My trigger | finger jerks. There are two thunderclaps. And a bullet in my head. | | You never get used to the feeling of hot metal, entering your | skull and exiting through the back of your head. It’s simulated | in glorious detail. A burning train through your forehead, a warm | spray of blood and brain on your shoulders and back, the sudden | chill—and finally, the black, when things stop. The Archons of | the Dilemma Prison want you to feel it. It’s educational. | | The Prison is all about education. And game theory: the | mathematics of rational decision-making. When you are an immortal | mind like the Archons, you have time to be obsessed with such | things. And it is just like the Sobornost – the upload collective | that rules the Inner Solar System—to put them in charge of their | prisons. And going back further, Jean le Flambeur is a synthetic construct, created by Sobornost Founder (one of seven) Joséphine Pellegrini, to serve her. But various copies of him have rebelled and escaped. I gather that she's a riff on Countess of Cagliostro, from Maurice Leblanc's novels. Gotta read those. Mieli, the other main character, also serves Joséphine Pellegrini. She seems extremely naive, albeit a fierce warrior. But there's much more to her than that. There's a very deep game, which I won't ruin for y'all. > Same with the Alistair Reynolds books I recommended - they are *not* > utopian visions of the future, at all. Thanks. I need more new stuff. I've reread Stover's Caine novels _many_ times. Because I love the action! And also because the plot (if you can call it that) is extremely convoluted and branched. It's vaguely similar to Heinlein's _All You Zombies_, but no where near as obvious.
Re: Geek captcha
I guess I was lucky I got credited, by mentioning online, early concepts for the Warrant Canary and (what became known as) The Street Performer Protocol before others. On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 1:36 PM Stephen D. Williams wrote: > Cool! That's a good idea. I may implement it and similar things soon. > Just for posterity, I independently invented CAPTCHA, I think a year before > the CMU kids thought of it. I even began filing a patent while at my > startup in the late 1990's, but we ran out of money. I should have > continued, although the situation was murky. Imagine my surprise a couple > years later at the IJCAI AI conferences in Acapulco when the CMU team > presented CAPTCHA at an extra presentation at the end of the conference. I > went on a lark because the point of the presentation wasn't clear until I > was sitting in it. Just one of the many things I've thought of / invented > that I didn't capitalize on, or give away in a timely fashion. Par for the > course; many people will have similar ideas at similar points in time. > > sdw > > On 7/14/18 4:50 PM, Steven Schear wrote: > > >
Re: Geek captcha
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:19 -0700 Steven Schear wrote: > I'm not sure but think the completion option should have been, "if none > click SHIP". funnily enough that mock captcha (it's a joke Georgi...) may be more solvable than the garbage that googlepentagon actually 'serves'. Their current captchas are just a bunch of small, blurry, noisy collections of random pixels. > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 8:55 AM Georgi Guninski wrote: > > > What is this code doing? > > Looks like obfuscated javascript, not fully shown. > > > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 04:50:15PM -0700, Steven Schear wrote: > > > > > > > > >
Re: Geek captcha
Cool! That's a good idea. I may implement it and similar things soon. Just for posterity, I independently invented CAPTCHA, I think a year before the CMU kids thought of it. I even began filing a patent while at my startup in the late 1990's, but we ran out of money. I should have continued, although the situation was murky. Imagine my surprise a couple years later at the IJCAI AI conferences in Acapulco when the CMU team presented CAPTCHA at an extra presentation at the end of the conference. I went on a lark because the point of the presentation wasn't clear until I was sitting in it. Just one of the many things I've thought of / invented that I didn't capitalize on, or give away in a timely fashion. Par for the course; many people will have similar ideas at similar points in time. sdw On 7/14/18 4:50 PM, Steven Schear wrote:
Re: Geek captcha
I'm not sure but think the completion option should have been, "if none click SHIP". On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 8:55 AM Georgi Guninski wrote: > What is this code doing? > Looks like obfuscated javascript, not fully shown. > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 04:50:15PM -0700, Steven Schear wrote: > > > > >
Re: Geek captcha
What is this code doing? Looks like obfuscated javascript, not fully shown. On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 04:50:15PM -0700, Steven Schear wrote: >
Re: Earth: Growth Is Ending, You Fucked Yourselves, Haha
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 07:49:47PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > On 07/13/2018 02:38 PM, Steven Schear wrote: > > No problem. The elites always have their solutions: World War and survival > > bunkers. > > And escape to space, and/or virtual reality in hardened server farms. > > Check out: > > _Diaspora_, by Greg Egan > > _The Last Trumpet Project_, by Kevin MacArdry > https://anarplex.net/hosted/files/last_trumpet/LTP.pdf > > _Accelerando_, by Charles Stross > http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/accelerando/accelerando-intro.html > > "Flower Prince" trilogy, by Hannu Rajaniemi Those are all terrific choices. Lately I've been reading the "Revelation Space" series by Alistair Reynolds - they have a bit more of a space opera thing going on (although there is no FTL, the science tries to be grounded).. It doesn't really matter which book you start with, although I really liked "Chasm City", which I think was one of the early ones. It has lots of violence :) (although not to levels of RKM or Joe Abercrombie) It is important to remember that these are all pieces of fiction :) In the real world, we are destroying the planet so that shareholder prices keep going up, short term profits in exchange for long term existential crisis, and it will only be the ultra wealthy who come out the other end after "the Jackpot" (as William Gibson coined how he sees it playing out over a 40-50 year period of humanity adjusting and losing like 2/3 of its population, in the book "The Peripheral"). > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 11:35 AM grarpamp wrote: > > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Zw0_4CH1A > >> > >> Fucked 1.7 times over, and growing... > >> https://www.overshootday.org/ > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overshoot_(population) > >> > > -- GPG fingerprint: 17FD 615A D20D AFE8 B3E4 C9D2 E324 20BE D47A 78C7 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
