biggest gov finance deception in USA history - "Fighting poverty is boring - moar war please" - [PEACE]

2018-12-08 Thread Zenaan Harkness
$21 TRILLION of Pentagon financial transactions “could not be
traced, documented, or explained.”


Not overly funny, but certainly a poignant episode of Redacted
Tonight:

 ‘Fighting poverty is boring, if Mexico's new president wants
  to be on CNN he should say racist s***’
 https://www.rt.com/news/445958-camp-redacted-tonight-oreos-pentagon/

 youtube-dl -f webm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrAdBYbXHZ8
 ~162MiB, ~1/2hr, Lee Camp



So what's a few "accounting errors" between deep state underground
city builders anyway?

A few we know about:

10 Most Epic Underground Cities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKUFtgcUlzY



On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 12:45:32AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 08:20:20AM -0500, John Newman wrote:
> > 
> > > On Dec 4, 2016, at 12:16 AM, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> > > 
> > >> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 11:33:47PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > >> Black TV Host Takes on David Duke with Incredible Interview
> > >> http://davidduke.com/black-tv-host-takes-on-david-duke-with-incredible-interview/
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki4izqElwaM
> > >> August 3, 2016
> > >> ~1 GiB ("best")
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Times are changin people ...
> > > 
> > > Classic stat:
> > > 
> > > The USA (private) Federal Reserve, doled out $27 billion to the
> > > "too big to fail" banks.
> > > 
> > > This year, the USA government "national / public debt" stands at
> > > $19 trillion.
> > > 
> > > So back in 2008, at a public debt of around say ~$17 trillion,
> > > if that $27 billion bailout "funds" had instead gone 100% to the
> > > government, and the banks had been allowed to simply fail / fall
> > > over, then the USA government would have done the following:
> > > 
> > >  - eliminated the USA's public debt, to $zero outstanding
> > >  - had a budget surplus of $10 trillion "just lying around" on top of
> > >that
> > > 
> > 
> > Math a bit off there, chum. Hint: trillion > billion.
> > 
> > Are you suffering from some neuro degenerative condition? Alt-dementia?
> 
> :D  Ho yeah!!
> 
> Nice one :)
> 
> 
> > Scratch that, don't really care, probably shouldn't have responded...
> 
> Oh come on - what's life if we can't have a chuckle, because, you know,
> I'd -never- trump on someone's pathetic parade. Nope. Not me. What choo
> lookin at? :scowl:
> 
> ;)
> 
> By the way, shame about those numbers, but thanks for the correction.
> Brown Paper Bag duly shoved on head.
> 
> 
> > > "Slaves, get back in your box and work!"
> > > 
> > > "Fricken humans, thinkin they can have freedom -
> > >  freedim's only for the banks you fool!"
> 
> -- 
> Certified  Deplorable  Fake  News  Nazi (TM)(C)(R)
>  Executive Director of Vice, Ministry of Winning
>  Shilling for buxom Russian swastika clad minxes since 1488


Re: Assange Journalism

2018-12-08 Thread juan
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 19:26:46 -0500
Steve Kinney  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 12/8/18 3:41 PM, juan wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 13:44:22 -0500
> > Steve Kinney  wrote:
> 
> >> Greenwald distributed the PRISM documents to several press outlets, at
> >> least one of which edited them before release per side by side
> >> comparison of published versions.  (Or, more than one version was
> >> distributed by Greenwald for whatever reason.)
> >>
> >> So it seems likely that Snowden got his information about how and where
> >> the documents were forwarded to news outlets from Greenwald himself.
> > 
> > I didn't see evidence for that. 
> 
> Because Snowden's tale includes how he failed to find a journalist, any
> journalist, who was interested in his materials /and/ capable of
> communicating via an encrypted channel. 


Yes but that doesn't add up. 


> So he had to settle for film
> maker Poitras, and attorney & partisan political talking head Greenwald
> - just because Poitras was willing/able to use TOR and/or GPG.


The story I remember is that he wanted to contact greenwald and that 
greenwald was too retarded to know how to use pgpg.



> 
> Before delivering docs to Greenwald, nobody in the news biz would talk
> to Snowden, at least not on his terms.  After, he had no opportunity to
> do any more handoffs.
> 
> Snowden's tale of how "journalists" should decide what to release
> strikes me as a cover story, explaining away his failure to send the
> docs to Wikileaks 


by 'failure' you mean he just didn't want to send them to wikileaks 
because wilileaks would actually publish the stuff?

I guess in the end it doesn't matter if he gave the docs only to 
greenwald or to a couple more journos. But granted, if only greenwald got them 
in the first place then yes, that's even more suspect. 



> and have done with them, vs. throwing away his entire
> life, more or less, via contrived-looking cloak and dagger bullshit.
> 

You mean he could have leaked the docs without being detected? Maybe, I 
guess.


> :o/
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: Assange Journalism

2018-12-08 Thread Steve Kinney


On 12/8/18 3:41 PM, juan wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 13:44:22 -0500
> Steve Kinney  wrote:

>> Greenwald distributed the PRISM documents to several press outlets, at
>> least one of which edited them before release per side by side
>> comparison of published versions.  (Or, more than one version was
>> distributed by Greenwald for whatever reason.)
>>
>> So it seems likely that Snowden got his information about how and where
>> the documents were forwarded to news outlets from Greenwald himself.
> 
>   I didn't see evidence for that. 

Because Snowden's tale includes how he failed to find a journalist, any
journalist, who was interested in his materials /and/ capable of
communicating via an encrypted channel.  So he had to settle for film
maker Poitras, and attorney & partisan political talking head Greenwald
- just because Poitras was willing/able to use TOR and/or GPG.

Before delivering docs to Greenwald, nobody in the news biz would talk
to Snowden, at least not on his terms.  After, he had no opportunity to
do any more handoffs.

Snowden's tale of how "journalists" should decide what to release
strikes me as a cover story, explaining away his failure to send the
docs to Wikileaks and have done with them, vs. throwing away his entire
life, more or less, via contrived-looking cloak and dagger bullshit.

:o/






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Re: Are You Ready for the 'Inevitable' Clampdown on Tech and the Media? - shared from Reason.com

2018-12-08 Thread juan
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 21:37:07 + (UTC)
jim bell  wrote:


> If you are asking whether America has a "free market", I think the answer is 
> obvious:  "No".   Does it NEED a "free market".  My answer is, "Yes".  Will 
> it get a "free market", at least by listening to Tim Cook?   My answer, "No.".

Agreed. 

> As for the comment, "Apple's CEO Tim Cook says "the free market is not 
> working,"", my answer is:  The "free market isn't being tried", or "the free 
> market isn't being allowed".  

That is true as well. 


> And, to the extent that Tim Cook is implying that "the free market" is 
> failing, yes, he is clearly a biased fool. 

No, he's not a biased fool. He is a self-serving liar. And not an 
ordinary liar either but a very high ranking criminal in the US 
government-corporate hiearchy. I would describe him as anything but a fool.



> I think it is most commonly true that when some market in America is claimed 
> to fail (and possibly the world) that is because it ISN'T a "free market".  
> Generally, as markets become more free, they become more successful.  


you would have to define 'successful' - As a libertarian I of course 
don't care about markets being 'succesful' anyway. The only thing that matters 
is people being free. 



> But, generally, I like Reason magazine.  I don't know about your criticism of 
> this specific author, however.  Can you cite an article with which you 
> disagree?


Did you read my message? 

My previous message was about pointing out that gillespie and reason 
magazine are anti-free-market corporatist shills.

If crapple and the rest of the silicon mafia isn't the result of the 
free market then gillespie has to admit  either 

1) that the obscene profits of crapple and co. are ilegitimate

2)  or go the randroid nutcase route and describe them as "poor 
oppressed minorities" and further conclude than in a 'real' free market  
crapple would be an even bigger toxic monopoly. 


Of course gillespie would never admit 1) so...


Do you want me to analyze gillespie's fascist propaganda paragraph by 
paragraph? I though that's something you would do since you linked the article 
in the first place =) 





>                     Jim Bell
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Saker; Stephen Cohen: USA ←→ Russia, what can be done? (book spruke) - [PEACE]

2018-12-08 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Stephen Cohen lays out the bullet points of the possibility of war
with Russia, spruking his newly released book War With Russia?

Despite being relatively concise, it takes Cohen a good few pages to
summarize the state of things - useful for those who want a regroup,
not particularly new to anyone following the "elite's" ratbaggery
over the last few years.

** War With Russia?
http://theduran.com/war-with-russia/?mc_cid=05957c06ba_eid=[UNIQID]
** By Stephen Cohen on Dec 08, 2018 01:10 pm


** Why Russia won’t invade the Ukraine, the Baltic statelets or
anybody else
https://thesaker.is/why-russia-wont-invade-the-ukraine-the-baltic-statelets-or-anybody-else/?mc_cid=05957c06ba_eid=[UNIQID]



Re: Assange Journalism

2018-12-08 Thread juan
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 13:44:22 -0500
Steve Kinney  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 12/7/18 11:53 PM, juan wrote:
> > 
> > To Steve K.
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUhFf6K-SU8
> > 
> > minute 55:10 snowden says that the jew york times, der spiegel, 
> > washington post and the intercept all have many unpublished documents from 
> > his 'stash'(not sure if that's the word he uses)
> > 
> > anyway, at this point nothing of what snowden says is 100% to be 
> > trusted, but at any rate that matches what I remembered about the documents 
> > being sort of 'distributed'among a bunch of journo scumbags. For what 
> > it's worth.
> 
> I recall Snowden saying that he gave all the documents he had to
> Greenwald, explaining that he did not consider himself qualified to
> determine 


yes, the bit about snowden kowtowing to the enlightened authority of 
journos is something he constantly parrots. As to who originally got the 
documents, I'm not sure, but in that video snowden  says that other people 
apart from greenwald have them now. 

I don't think that makes much of a difference either way, except 
perhaps to illustrate the kinda obvious fact that the 'mainstream media' are 
part of any conspiracy there may be. 


> which were of "legitimate" public interest, or where to send
> them for publication.
> 
> Greenwald distributed the PRISM documents to several press outlets, at
> least one of which edited them before release per side by side
> comparison of published versions.  (Or, more than one version was
> distributed by Greenwald for whatever reason.)
> 
> So it seems likely that Snowden got his information about how and where
> the documents were forwarded to news outlets from Greenwald himself.


I didn't see evidence for that. 


> Given The Intercept's track record, I know that Greenwald can not be
> trusted (check how The Intercept deliberately burned Reality Winner),


'burning' that murderous cunt is the only good thing the intercept ever 
did. Regardless, I don't think that would be the main evidence of greenwald 
being completely untrustworthy.

What actually gives greenwald's game away is the fact that the 
intercept is nothing but a mouthpiece for the worst factions of the 
'democratic' party.



> and his changing stories early in the Snowden Affair indicate either
> incompetence or lies.
> 
> This leaves us to speculate about what documents were sent where, based
> on information filtered through one (Greenwald > Public) or two
> (Greenwald > Snowden > Public) unreliable sources.


Well, if we are going to speculate (which is kinda pointless I guess), 
then snowden's sayings should be taken into account?


Anyway, if judged by its results the Snowden Affair is pretty much a 
farce played while  the US govcorp (hello reason.com!) continues on its 
glorious march to world enslavement. 




> 
> :o/
> 
> 
> 



Re: BCH finally hit the fan

2018-12-08 Thread jim bell
 On Saturday, December 8, 2018, 7:37:50 AM PST, John Newman  
wrote:
 

> On Dec 7, 2018, at 12:37 PM, furrier  wrote:
> 
>> I will disagree with you here. Craig may be an idiot and
>> the fact that he holds patents makes him dangerous but he
>> does not have the network effect that the BCH "community" has.
>> They are all over the place when it comes to fake
>> libertarianism. I attended Anarchapulco last February, these


>Did you get to watch Jim Bell speak ?  :P

My speech at Anarchapulco 2018 was punctuated by two memorable things:  One, an 
audio artifact "gunshot", which they informed me that had occurred with at 
least one previous speaker as well.  The second, about 5 minutes before my 
speech was intended to end, was an earthquake, maybe it was magnitude 7, but 
the epicenter was a hundred or so miles south of Acapulco, so it was only a 
mild shaking locally.  
Still, it was quite memorable.  
                      Jim Bell  

Re: BCH finally hit the fan

2018-12-08 Thread John Newman



> On Dec 7, 2018, at 12:37 PM, furrier  wrote:
> 
> I will disagree with you here. Craig may be an idiot and
> the fact that he holds patents makes him dangerous but he
> does not have the network effect that the BCH "community" has.
> They are all over the place when it comes to fake
> libertarianism. I attended Anarchapulco last February, these


Did you get to watch Jim Bell speak ?  :P


> guys are FAR MORE DANGEROUS than Faketoshi. Both of these
> shitcoins are meant to go down.
> 
> 
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Monday, December 3, 2018 12:49 AM, juan  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 02 Dec 2018 23:25:52 +
>> furrier furr...@protonmail.ch wrote:
>> 
>>> FYI I don't give a flying fuck about BSV and I consider
>>> Faketoshi an idiot and dangerous scammer but I really
>>> enjoyed this guy's breakdown of the BCH problems that
>>> were made apparent after the split. Instead of making
>>> assumptions, you could just ask.
>> 
>>My mistake, I apologize then.
>> 
>> 
>> However, the article is unimpressive because the author tries to present 
>> himself as "politically unbiased" while in reality he's a partisan for the 
>> worst bitcoin faction, that of wright. All 3 bitcoin factions are less than 
>> ideal but wright's is by far the worst.
> 
> 



unlike drugs, debt can be written off with the stroke of a digital pen...

2018-12-08 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 09:44:37PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-30/treasury-s-488-billion-in-borrowing-sets-a-first-quarter-record
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8g7izp/the_us_treasury_department_says_that_the/
> https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/8g26mb/the_us_just_borrowed_488_billion_a_record_high/
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/8g2oa0/the_us_just_borrowed_488_billion_a_record_high/
> https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/8g4g76/the_us_just_borrowed_488_billion_a_record_high/

Bah ... what's $5.4 billion a day between globalists?

It's a drug, that's what it is:

Historic Debt Is At The Core Of Our Decline
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-07/historic-debt-core-our-decline

Unlike drugs, debt can be written off with the stroke of a digital
pen... which pen our Russkie exemplar President Vlad has made rather
significant use of.

UNfortunately for the USA, there's a group of swamp cretins who keep
a check on "your" president, and so the encumbering of "the taxpayer"
(somewhat like "Florida Man") shall continue for a period.

I wonder who, they, could be?


Re: Cypherpunk University by JW Weatherman

2018-12-08 Thread Michalis Kargakis
He has no idea about economics and he is selling crap to his followers. By his 
own terms, he is a functional scammer.

 Original Message 
On Dec 8, 2018, 07:46, grarpamp wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbIPKm3inWU
> https://jwweatherman.com/class
> http://www.cypherpunku.com/index.php?threads/so-what-is-cypherpunk-university-about-heres-the-juicy-details.33/
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9OML5D8RMo
> https://archive.org/details/youtube-wrAtsQrs7dY
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa87kudAVFs

Re: ROTF! Cloudflare CEO: “I woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them (DailyStr0mer) off the Internet.”

2018-12-08 Thread Zenaan Harkness
If an Aryan faux is a sock puppet, would a Jewish sock puppet be
called a schnozz puppet?



On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 02:09:39PM +0100, Kd M wrote:
> this mailing list has turned into total trash.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 1:37 AM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> > The mirror is still on the wall, Razer :)
> >
> >  "Oh, muh 6 million - oy vey, we grumbled a little too soon, in fact
> >   many years prior to World War 2 - we better shut it down!"
> >
> > Seriously, this is the foundational fact that makes you go "hmmm".
> > (NO more humming tunes in your head, goy :)
> >
> > Here's the link again, which was censored for about 6 months, and has
> > since been allowed back online by Jewgle, as I and many others simply
> > re-uploaded this video to compensate, so the censors have relented
> > and begrudgingly allowed the original (without comments and without
> > view counts etc) back online:
> >
> > >   SIX MILLION JEWS 1915-1938 HD
> > >   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
> >
> > Incredible that such a (literally) factual and brief vid was censored
> > at all…
> >
> > Trigger a Marxist today - speak a fact to their face yo!
> >
> > :)
> >
> > And here's a choice video comment to the above video, which of course
> > went into Google's censorship black hole:
...