Re: Human Rights misnomers - Marxist communists - agreements/ contracts

[jamesd]

On 2020-01-15 10:04, Douglas Lucas wrote:

You can try to block all that and divvy it up into privatized parcels
with biz deals and right-wing verbiage, but reality doesn't care. Mortal
bodies die eventually, experience itself is a gift, sharing is what we
do with those we love. Love should extend everywhere, even past your
fiefdom of Trump-esque mine Ayn mine.


Whenever you guys try this you always murder millions.  One of Bernie 
Sander's well paid staffers was promising to murder millions, 
enthusiastically explaining that Stalin did it right, that fascists need 
violence, that everyone who supports Trump is a fascist, and Bernie 
Sanders failed to disown him or fire him.


And when Bernie Sanders talks, he does not promise to murder millions, 
but he neglects to explain that he is not planning to murder millions 
and neglects to explain why it will be different this time around.

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[jim bell]

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[jim bell]

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Re: Human Rights misnomers - Marxist communists - agreements/ contracts

[Douglas Lucas]

Hey cypherpunks,

See below.

On 2020-01-14 23:23, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> So the looney "liberal" lefties (commies) want everyone to -have-
> everything, including "free"

To borrow some lines from Fabiana Cecin, Everything already is free.
Paid for by a star.

You can try to block all that and divvy it up into privatized parcels
with biz deals and right-wing verbiage, but reality doesn't care. Mortal
bodies die eventually, experience itself is a gift, sharing is what we
do with those we love. Love should extend everywhere, even past your
fiefdom of Trump-esque mine Ayn mine. If you're worried about The Bad
People doing The Bad Things to your hoards of magic cryptocoin
abstractions, mebbe interact in different ways such that The Bad People
and The Bad Things fade away into nothingness, rather than fantasizing
about building bigger and bigger walls around your seasteading island
where all by your lonesome (and purchased caregivers) you count your
coin until it's finally time to go into your scam cryonics chamber.

Or just keep being Kruge, I guess, from Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.

KIRK: If we don't help each other, we'll die here!
KRUGE: Perfect!

Doug

Human Rights misnomers - Marxist communists - agreements/ contracts

[Zenaan Harkness]

So the looney "liberal" lefties (commies) want everyone to -have-
everything, including "free":

  - education

  - medical care

  - insurance

  - food

  - housing

  - legal aid

  - etc


  Labour's Richard Burgon Slams UK Government Cuts to
  Legal Aid as 'Depriving Human Rights'
  
https://sputniknews.com/uk/202001141078037104-labours-richard-burgon-slams-uk-government-cuts-to-legal-aid-as-depriving-human-rights/


Sadly this communist neo-Marxism is now being sold under the
deceptive lie of such gibs being "human rights".

Now listen up snowflakes (and all who missed the memo), human rights
are sanctions, not gibs.

And more particularly, a human right is a sanction which does not
infringe the human rights of other humans.

Resist being deceived.

What is a sanction?

A sanction is that action (arising from a power or ability) which you
can exercise independent of the authority, will or power of any other
human.

So a human right is one of those things arising from your own latent
(or natural) capacity and ability.

For example:

  - the right to move, walk, travel

  - the right to communicate

  - the right to survive - to do those things necessary for the
continuance of my physical body - grow food and plants for
medicine, farm animals, collect and use water

  - the right to breathe

  - the right to think and believe what one wills

  - the right to build a dwelling to protect you and your family from
the elements of nature


The reason gibs are not human rights, is that they are not sanctions
- instead, gibs is the imposition of your will (effectively, usually
by force of the state to "collect" tax) upon another human being.

Which is fundamentally evil.

Imposing your will on others, is to deny the other the right to
choose to do as he pleases in his own life, with his own body and his
own time.


The despotic "right" to free shit - free gibs - is a consent to
despotism.

Once we agree to one despotism, we have effectively agreed to all
despotisms.


"Free" gibs, imposed by the force of the state upon productive
individuals, is:

  - the surrender of individual responsibility (for one's own actions
and choices in life)

  - the consent to all despotisms of the state

  - the consent to the financial enslavement of your people, your
community, your councils and governments


If "free shit" is to be couched as a "human right", then at best it
is nothing other than a predatorial right of the ignorant and of the
predatorial, upon the productive and the responsible.


The primary challenge to the fable of the grasshopper and the ant, is
"charity".

Imposed charity, tends strongly to despotism and descent into madness.


  https://www.yandex.com/search/?text=grasshopper%20and%20the%20ant=21265


  The Ant and the Grasshopper
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ant_and_the_Grasshopper

The Ant and the Grasshopper, alternatively titled The Grasshopper
and the Ant (or Ants), is one of Aesop's Fables, numbered 373 in
the Perry Index.[1] The fable describes how a hungry grasshopper
begs for food from an ant when winter comes and is refused. The
situation sums up moral lessons about the virtues of hard work
and planning for the future.[2]

Even in Classical times, however, the advice was mistrusted and
an alternative story represented the ant's industry as mean and
self-serving. Jean de la Fontaine's delicately ironical retelling
in French later widened the debate to cover the themes of
compassion and charity. Since the 18th century the grasshopper
has been seen as the type of the artist and the question of the
place of culture in society has also been included. Argument over
the fable's ambivalent meaning has generally been conducted
through adaptation or reinterpretation of the fable in
literature, arts, and music.

...

Re: RE: My blog post re: letters supporting Reality Winner's clemency petition

[Ryan Carboni]

Real whistleblowers are prosecuted under a sealed case.

https://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/sealed-cases.pdf

Re: My blog post re: letters supporting Reality Winner's clemency petition

[Zigga da Bigga Trigga N.gga]

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 04:07:22PM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:50:43 +
> Douglas Lucas  wrote:
> 
> > Hi cypherpunks,
> > 
> > Last month or so I mentioned doing some FOIAs, including ones related to
> > this email list, but I haven't done them yet. Apologies. Trying to do
> > them this month.
> > 
> > I want to mention a fancy blog post I wrote yesterday for letters
> > supporting Russiagate whistleblower Reality Winner's clemency petition.
> 
> 
>   "Winner was awarded the Air Force Commendation Medal for "aiding in 650 
> enemy captures, 600 enemies killed in action and identifying 900 high[-]value 
> targets."[19]" 
> 
>   the only thing that murdering cunt deserves is death, not 'clemency'.


"identifying 900 high-value targets"

Of course, high value brown skins are just a google click for
confirmation away.

Followed by some other MIC schmuck making another click to drone,
drone them away.


  Identifying 900 high-value brown skins?
  A Google click.

  Bombing that brown skin wedding to the stone age?
  A $2.5 million, Google-triangulated, "patriot" missle - bombs away!

  For every other form of death, Google Is Your Friend.

Re: My blog post re: letters supporting Reality Winner's clemency petition

[Mirimir]

On 01/14/2020 12:24 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 14:12:54 -0500
> grarpamp  wrote:
> 
>> Like all the other leakers, journos, activists
>> up against ridiculous gov and evil corp, she
>> should never have been arrested/prosecuted
>> in the first place. Thx for your work.
> 
>   and here we have 'grarpamp' defending a mass murdering animal.
> 
>   it takes infinite retardation to regard the US military winner cunt as 
> being 'against gov and evil corp'

People do change.

Leaking didn't absolve her guilt for all the assisted kills.

But at least she decided to stop.

It's a lot like Snowden. He was quite the jerk in his early 20s.

Re: Oz army rescues Drop Bear -- Fwd: Journalist falls for Australian drop bear prank while covering Kangaroo Island bushfires - [PEACE]

[Ryan Carboni]

Hmmm? What's this?

"I knew once she got all the way through that, I knew there weren't
too many people who have fallen for that one, especially at a level of
her intelligence and international status."

Oz army rescues Drop Bear -- Fwd: Journalist falls for Australian drop bear prank while covering Kangaroo Island bushfires - [PEACE]

[Zigga da Bigga Trigga N.gga]

Australian army gets into Drop Bear for some reason.

Heartwarming rescues.

We're going to feed a bear.




- Forwarded message from Gil May  -

From: Gil May 
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:25:39 +1000
Subject: Fwd: Journalist falls for Australian drop bear prank while covering
 Kangaroo Island bushfires

: Journalist falls for Australian drop bear prank while covering Kangaroo
Island bushfires
>


*Journalist falls for Australian drop bear prank while covering Kangaroo
Island bushfires*

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-13/uk-journalist-pranked-into-holding-a-drop-bear-during-bushfires/11863942

- End forwarded message -

Re: Only one possible solution

[Ryan Carboni]

As I was saying earlier...

>I may only have a passing familiarity with the concept of American
>democracy limited to what I've read in my school textbooks and
>wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure having sex with the right people does
>not mean you get a get out of jail free card for ... well


https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21063591/modest-proposal-to-save-american-democracy-pack-the-union-harvard-law-review

An unsigned note, entitled “Pack the Union: A Proposal to Admit New
States for the Purpose of Amending the Constitution to Ensure Equal
Representation” and published in the Harvard Law Review, offers an
entirely constitutional way out of this dilemma: Add new states — a
lot of new states — then use this bloc of states to rewrite the
Constitution so that the United States has an election system “where
every vote counts equally.”

Re: Stop Breaking Proper Fucking Email Threading

[Ryan Carboni]

i use this mailing list as a bulletin board, so I go to :
https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-January/date.html

I don't pay attention to threading, since discussions don't always diverge.

Cryptocurrency: Storm Coming

[grarpamp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD_sgwaVk6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8hP3lhuzdw

SecureDNS Web Cookies

[Se7en]

Mr. Lahaye,

I have been using your SecureDNS DNSCrypt service for a few months
now. Only recently have I made the discovery that a web cookie exists
on all pages originating from SecureDNS. I do not see any infomration
reguarding this cookie, and consider cookie behavior like this to be
malicous. Do you have an explanation?

Further, upon whois-ing your two websites  and
 I have discovered that one is a Google
Domain (and thus Google Hosted???) and one is a Godaddy domain hosted
on Cloudflare servers. The latter has been down with error 526 since I
last attempted to try. "Invalid SSL certificate" is the stated name of
the error from the Cloudflare side.

Should this be innocent behavior, I would highly suggest to you to 1)
avoid google, 2) prevent any tracking cookie injection, 3) avoid
cloudflare at /all/ costs, and 4) ensure that you have a reasonable
method of secure monitoring of status of web pages.

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Re: My blog post re: letters supporting Reality Winner's clemency petition

[grarpamp]

Like all the other leakers, journos, activists
up against ridiculous gov and evil corp, she
should never have been arrested/prosecuted
in the first place. Thx for your work.

Stop Breaking Proper Fucking Email Threading

[grarpamp]

Ryan

The Grim Logic of Power

[Ryan Carboni]

Sadly no successful society selects their leaders by a hugging
competition. Although one could say that by making promotions or
appointments exclusive to people you meet at any orgy that is a sort
of hugging competition, but only a hugging competition to select those
who order people who certainly do not hug to maintain their power.

This may be why Epstein asked so many to befriend predatory animals, a
massive long-term sociological experiment to achieve world peace...

But isn't hugging discouraged as potentially being sexual harassment?

Re: This is the Opportunity-cost of NOT implementing my AP idea

[Razer]

On 1/13/20 9:25 AM, John Young wrote:
> Complaints about list processing is a venerable troll of public
> masturbation.
>
>

I've never noticed any problems with Cypherpunks mailing operations and
I never in my life expected any listserv, newsgroup, blogging site,
anywhere, to be responsible for the maintenance of my posts over time.
There are cloud services that do that. Anyone who expects anyone except
an operation that claims to do that as a business ... expects someone
else to take care of their shit, is a mentally deficient child-adult. A
spoiled brat mentally-deficient child-adult.

Rr




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