Cryptocurrency: Toine Manders - Live Free in Unfree World - Startup Nations Conference

2020-02-23 Thread grarpamp
Toine Manders interviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzDUCb1WlEM RT interview - banks
counterfeit, privacy, competing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaVcra6VD28 WeAreChangeRotterdam
https://www.youtube.com/user/hjcbv/videos




625 Somewhat related videos...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQec2AlTGgctPwjndysDWzc6O3nJIFf6w
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWReY3ntOx_FcAtA6wtpgDoQLBwsQI2WK


Re: Tracing COVID-19 cases with Google Timeline?

2020-02-23 Thread jim bell
On Friday, February 21, 2020, 08:55:36 PM PST, grarpamp  
wrote: 


On 2/21/20, jim bell  wrote:
> I am surprised that when I do a Google search for 'COVID-19 "google
> timeline" ', I see essentially no results.

Maybe Google has the answer and wants to monetize it first, lol :)


  That may be right...

> I simply point out that there are a lot of people out there scared of this 
> virus

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.mp3

>Given growing worldwide distributions, and higher ~10% kill rate,

I've read it's about 2.3% in China, 0.6% elsewhere.  Not quite "Black Death" 
level, or Ebola, etc.  but still ominous.


>it's probably reasonable to start casually avoiding some needless
exposure to potential outgroups... travelers, barkeeps, attendants,
random new people, that sort of thing. Game the shopping and
work plans, etc. Or at least be able to do such survival thinking
now if needed later.

There is some indication of a vaccine in a few months.  


>> and probably be looking for a way to
> determine if their paths have crossed with a victim, even if that victim
> wasn't symptomatic for 1-2 weeks after the contact.  So at some point, I
> think there will be discussion of this possibility.

>> The data is already
> being collected, in all Android phones (is there an Apple equivalent?)

>The telcos already have the SIM and IMEI association to towers,
the triangulation, the SMS ability. Google and Apple and app
companies already collect tons of GPS data.

Yes, but I don't think that's accurate enough.  The accuracy needed is 
something like, "did a person go into that specific store, or the next one 30 
feet away".   Tower measurement isn't that accurate.  

> In principle, if a new infectee is identified, it would be technically 
> possible
> to work backwards, figure out where he has been over the relevant period,
> and find anybody who was close to him during a multi-week period.

The NSA GCHQ and AI gigacorps already have the bigdata tools
to sift the location combinatrics out of that, already running it
on their own non-bughunting tasks over similar datasets.

Wouldn't be too hard to create some matching tool
that users could use.

>> If epidemiologists were to ask a patient, "tell us where and
>> when you've been each minute over the last 15 days"  the vast majority of
>> these victims wouldn't have a prayer of providing that information.

>Companies and health systems are certainly already being
tasked on this, at least using those traditional methods and public
health data.

>If it gets really bloody, it's safe to presume there will be public calls
to open up the private / secret databanks. But will such calls succeed?
And would the data actually do any timely accurate good up
against a raging epidemic?

I think most infectees would be willing to have their information shared.  And 
many non-infectees would be willing to have their Timeline data compared with 
that of infectees.  


>That type of integration hasn't been done before
so it is likely to fail the first time around.

I feel certain that Google people are working on the capability.  They'd be 
flailed if they werent.


>>  Suppose you receive a text or email notification that you were in a small
> store, 5 days ago, with a person who just developed symptoms of COVID-19.
> You MIGHT be infected.  So, you MIGHT want to take
> ...
> you not get sick, maybe you'd be able to avoid transmitting the virus to
> many others.  (My speculation...)  And maybe you'll live, when you
> otherwise wouldn't.
>
> We Cypherpunks are SUPPOSED to be more concerned, than average, about the
> privacy and freedom implications of technologies.  What I have described,
> above, might be handled in a completely-voluntary fashion.  But, we want to
> ensure that this doesn't turn into a permanent form of tracking.  So we
> should debate the implications of all this, ideally before everyone else is
> talking about it.


>Privacy and voluntary options can actually help beat epidemics.
Suppose people could get the data of their contact history (or
maybe they were running their own distributed voluntary p2p
WiFi proximity contact loggers and messaging apps),
or get tested, or receive treatment, completely anonymously,
just give them a unique ID number, no real ID asked.

Somewhat like the HIV epidemic or any other illness,
sometimes people want to know first, so they can come
to terms with it in a minute, then do what they have to do.

Imagine some high society tabloid person, or anyone really,
fucked an infected whore, or was getting coked up with Trump,
whatever the deal... are they really going to volunteer that path.

Maybe people want to self-confine at home and order
food delivery, instead of risk catching MRSA in hospital.

If I knew or thought I had some corona air/surface/touch
transmissible death plague, I'd immediately remove myself from
all such human contact, other than medical 

Re: Musica y Conversacion: De Libertad

2020-02-23 Thread rooty
Ty gramp for links luv rooty

 Original Message 
On Feb 23, 2020, 6:28 PM, grarpamp wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5m07B0Xdpk basilio - libertaria
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9v18BlgzSg basilio - pc visao ancap
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrI7MimwBKs basilio - imposto e roubo
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7VDQA5-xHM slammer og - anti-estado
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mxcSqP4qEo porto - me deixa viver em paz
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hsr_HiMmM anarcocapitalismo - ponde
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzpHaPyYS24 um papo ancap
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRw8E0dgXQY explicando
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFOFHjHhC5Y como viver sem um estado
>
> El anarquismo no es solo para los angloparlantes locos, jaja :)

Re: Lax measures to protecting against the virus

2020-02-23 Thread Ryan Carboni
There might have been multiple diseases with similar symptoms that
leaked out from Wuhan.

If true, there will be hell to pay.


Cryptocurrency: Toine Manders - Live Free in Unfree World - Startup Nations Conference

2020-02-23 Thread grarpamp
Toine Manders - How to live free in an unfree world - Startup Nations
Conference Sep 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtydOLr5S6M

Toine Manders - Libertarian Badass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYhrFjS7gRI pofc hearing short cc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UgOfPBuUg pofc hearing full raw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga5I4uFDAy8 talkshow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muftv3fOvE0 w disenthrall

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query="startup+nations+conference;


Musica y Conversacion: De Libertad

2020-02-23 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5m07B0Xdpk basilio - libertaria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9v18BlgzSg basilio - pc visao ancap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrI7MimwBKs basilio - imposto e roubo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7VDQA5-xHM slammer og - anti-estado
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mxcSqP4qEo porto - me deixa viver em paz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hsr_HiMmM anarcocapitalismo - ponde
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzpHaPyYS24 um papo ancap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRw8E0dgXQY explicando
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFOFHjHhC5Y como viver sem um estado

El anarquismo no es solo para los angloparlantes locos, jaja :)


Re: Radical hydrogen-boron reactor leapfrogs current nuclear fusion tech

2020-02-23 Thread Peter Fairbrother

On 22/02/2020 04:37, jim bell wrote:

 From Discover on Google 
https://newatlas.com/energy/hb11-hydrogen-boron-fusion-clean-energy/



Yawn.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneutronic_fusion

https://www.fusenet.eu/node/575

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je43p4jtumc


Re: Bernie Sanders is (literally, according to CNN) a Russian asset

2020-02-23 Thread Razer
There's only ONE choice then...

"Intelligence has revealed that Mr. Buttigieg is at this time the only
candidate who we can count on not to place our nation's interests square
in the hands of Vladimir Putin," an anonymous source in the Central
Intelligence Agency told NNC on Saturday.

In fact Mr. Buttigieg is the only candidate running with the skill, the
experience and the multilingual relatability needed to bridge our
nation's deep divisions and bring Americans together in this time of
uncontrolled hostility," the CIA source continued.

"Because in truth, the unity of our togetherness is in the freedom of
our democracy," added the source"

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/intelligence-sources-all-candidates-are-russian-agents-but-pete-buttigieg-73fa80b17ae5


Further, Ajamu Baraka, my favorite Commie Knee-Grow (Lenny Bruce's
vernacular) has a few words about the 2020 SELECTIONS (NOT 'elections'
... Mericans get to SELECT between public personas the billionaires who
own the media have preened for presentation)

"Liberals have gone mad. In this strange political world in the U.S. it
takes Tucker Carlson to question who is really undermining the U.S.
electoral system."

Tucker Carlson: Russia isn’t attacking our democratic system – our own
ruling class is

"The story of American decline is the story of an incompetent ruling
class. You'll hear many self-serving explanations for it. But the truth
is, it's that simple.

The people in charge inherited an industrial superpower with
unchallenged military dominance. In a little more than a generation,
they squandered all of it.

In exchange for short-term profits, bigger vacation homes and cheaper
household help they wrecked what they did not build.

They outsourced entire sectors of our economy to China. They imported a
serf class to drive down wages, and they crippled the middle class while
doing it.

They ran up trillions of dollars in unpayable debt. They turned the
finest universities in the world into a joke. They watched from their
decadent little bubbles of affluence as families, faith and public
decency died in this country and they laughed because they didn't care."

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-russia-isnt-attacking-our-democratic-system-our-own-ruling-class-is



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Bernie Sanders is (literally, according to CNN) a Russian asset -- Re: Putin: "Big problem - Hillary knows!" - [PEACE] [COMEDY]

2020-02-23 Thread Zig the N.g
Everybody who has a bone to pick with Hillary 'Cause You'd Be In Jail' Clinton, 
has either "mysteriously" died, or is literally (according to CNN) a Russian 
asset.

  Clinton Body Count
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count
  https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php
  http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/THE%20CLINTON%20BODY%20COUNT.pdf
  https://www.conservapedia.com/Clinton_body_count

  ‘Totally sane’: Dems can't make up their minds about who is a supposed 
'Russian agent’. Trump? Bernie? Or… both?
  https://www.rt.com/usa/481479-bernie-russia-trump-swalwell/

  CDC: People With Dirt On Clintons Have 843% Greater Risk Of Suicide
  https://babylonbee.com/news/cdc-people-dirt-clintons-843-greater-risk-suicide

  Hillary Clinton Accidentally Posts Condolences For Tulsi Gabbard's Suicide 
One Day Early
  
https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-clinton-accidentally-posts-condolences-for-tulsi-gabbards-suicide-one-day-early


Everybody that is, except the BabylonBee, who have recently come to love 
Hillary Clinton:

  We Would Like To State For The Record That Hillary Clinton Is An Upstanding 
Citizen And A Fine Human Being
  
https://babylonbee.com/news/we-would-like-to-state-for-the-record-that-hillary-clinton-is-an-upstanding-citizen-and-a-fine-human-being


(BTW, the life-ending conspiracy theories surrounding Hillary Clinton (totally 
fake news - she's truly an angel loved by all) are the -real- reason Trump is 
keeping Assange in Belmarsh max-security jail - it's the only way to protect 
him from Hillary Rodham Clinton's love for Assange.)

  Hillary Clinton: 'The Only Crime I Ever Committed Was Stealing The Hearts Of 
The American People'
  
https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-clinton-the-only-crime-i-ever-committed-was-stealing-the-hearts-of-the-american-people



On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 09:54:05AM +1100, Zig the N.g wrote:
> Word "wow", in just now, from Moscow:
> 
>   "Wow! Big problem, Hillary has 'urge' - must be Tulsi time
>already !?#!"
> 
> 
>   Can Bernie And Tulsi Survive Hillary's "Urge" To Save The DNC?
>   
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/can-bernie-and-tulsi-survive-hillarys-urge-save-dnc
> 
> ...
>   "Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of
>   warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of
>   the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long,
>   have finally come out from behind the curtain.
>   ...
>   It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t
>   cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly."
> 
>  — Tulsi Gabbard  (@TulsiGabbard) October 18, 2019
>  
> https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1185289626409406464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
> 
> Gabbard throws down the gauntlet here outing Hillary as the
> mastermind behind the DNC strategy of allowing the current crop
> of future losers to fall all over themselves to alienate as many
> centrist voters as possible.
> 
> This paves the way for Hillary to swoop in on her broom, pointed
> hat in hand, and declare herself the savior of the Democratic
> Party’s chances to defeat Donald Trump next November.
> 
> 
> Surely Hillary wouldn't be running on an urge to keep outta jail?
> 
> As the number of Hillary Clinton body doubles increases (see photo in
> original article for one double - there are at least 3 Hillarys doing
> the rounds - I guess since she struggles to remain conscious and not
> trip over smooth floors...), Hillary's "urge" grows.
> 
> The amount of money being spent for Hillary is truly impressive -
> especially the latest alleged 'hat in the ring' from Mini Mike B -
> all just to try to keep Bernie at bay and provide a viable pathway
> for  Hillary "'Cause You'd Be In Jail" Clinton.
> 
> You've heard of Breaking Bad, now have a laugh with Barking Mad, the
> true tale of Hillary Clinton's dozens of attempts to avoid legal
> service, arrest and jail, her subsequent commitment (she's a very
> committed woman) to the Brokensaw Psychiatric Quantannimoh Bae
> Facility, and be sure to stay tuned for Season 2 - Hillary's
> over a dozen thrilling Quantannimoh Bae escape attempts.
> 
> Rumour has it the finalé grants her Quantannimoh laundry privileges,
> in no small part due to her animated uncontrolled flailing being put
> to effective use to wash the orange man bad linen for her fellow
> inmates.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 09:42:35PM +1100, some N.g wrote:
> > Well well well, an absolutely UNredacted Trump-Putin telephone
> > transcript.
> > 
> > In non Soviet Russia, phone transcribe you!
> > 
> > On problem below, subject line postulate with "If".
> > 
> > 
> >   What If Hillary Clinton Was Right...
> >   https://www.zerohedge.com/political/what-if-hillary-clinton-was-right
> >   https://www.libertynation.com/hillary-clinton-was-right-a-satire/
> > 
> >   The following is a transcript of what Russian President Vladimir
> >   Putin 

In Surprise Move, Pope Francis Shills For Renewed Connection With God

2020-02-23 Thread Zig the N.g
In a surprise move today, the beloved [by Juan] Pope Francis made an 
international call for renewed devotion to God and prayer to Christ.

The Pope has repeatedly ... hey wait, it looks like there's a new sin, literary:

  Pope Francis The Taxman
  https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pope-francis-taxman
  https://antoniusaquinas.com/2020/02/18/pope-francis-the-taxman/

On the heels of calling for a Marxist economic conference this coming March 
(“Economy of Francesco”), Jorge Bergoglio (a.k.a. “Pope Francis”) has once 
again opined on financial matters.  The purported head of the Catholic Church 
has now designated “tax cuts” as sinful behavior on a par, apparently, with 
stealing, lying, and adultery:

Today’s structures of sin include repeated tax cuts for the richest 
people, often justified in the name of investment and development.

Bergoglio did not mention what category of sin advocacy for tax cuts falls 
under – venial or mortal. 

Maybe the details of how such a policy ranks in offending Divine Justice 
will be hammered out at the upcoming Economy of Francesco Commie confab!

In Bergoglio’s collectivist mind, those who try and keep their wealth from 
the ravenous demands of the State are somehow denying the poor their just due:

Every year hundreds of billions of dollars, which should be paid in 
taxes to fund health care and education, accumulate in tax haven accounts, thus 
impeding the possibility of the dignified and sustained development of all 
social agents.
...


Glad we cleared that up.

Ahem ...  in a surprise move today, the beloved [by Juan] Pope Francis made an 
international declaration that repeated tax cuts for the rich is a sin, either 
mortal or venal (as yet undetermined - Not Sure (TM)(C)(R)).

This literal papal declaration is considered by many as an indirect declaration 
of support for Bernie Sanders' presidency run.

Undisclosed sources from the Vatican assured Bernie campaign staffers that 
Indulgences may be sold until the conclusion of the primaries, with all 
proceeds going to the Bernie campaign.


Re: on the pain rebuilding US industry - MishTalk snowflake decries lack of USA industrial steel production "instant rebuild/restart"

2020-02-23 Thread Zig the N.g
On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 12:53:55PM +1100, Zig the N.g wrote:
> Classic, pathetic snowflakery!
> 
>   "Oh gee, in 18 months we didn't get (FAILED!) multi grades bulk steel slab 
> industrial production -competition- started just yet, let's immediately give 
> up on rebuilding USA steel industry!"
> 
> Carry on, Mish, carry on like the snowflake you are..

s/you are/you are sounding like with the words you used in your recent article/

It's far too easy to play the man - gotta remember to play the ball, not the 
man.  Playing the man is mean and rapidly descends, where playing the ball is 
what we desperately need.


Re: Radical hydrogen-boron reactor leapfrogs current nuclear fusion tech

2020-02-23 Thread Zig the N.g
On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 04:23:36AM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 16:40:52 +1100
> "Zig the N.g"  wrote:
> 
> >   Tune in Mondays, 3pm, for all the election meddling you can handle!
> 
>   there wasn't any 'election meddling'. Trumpo and putin are 'partners' 
> because the US and russian governments are 'partners'. And they've been 
> 'partners' for a long while 
> 
>   
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Tehran_Conference%2C_1943.jpg
> 
>   notice that the non-human abortion sir churchill was half americunt.


Ack.

I'm not sure how we' s'posed to get this comedy show on the road whilst being 
so dry - I mean don't get me wrong, the Z.g loves dry humour, but at some point 
it's so dry there's no humour left.

I'll leave it to yer ma and pa to bring you back to Jeebus hey? Just email your 
phone # to cont...@sputniknews.com and they'll hook up the 'Lection Meddlin' 
Triple N Show :D

Aww sheiiit .. too much joke repetition already perhaps?

Let's try this again:

>   there wasn't any 'election meddling'. Trumpo and putin are 'partners' 
> because the US and russian governments are 'partners'. And they've been 
> 'partners' for a long while 

Not, so, fast.

Ya must ave missed the memo bruh, there's a shirt tonne o' lection meddlin goin 
on - even an old song about it "There[s A Whole Lotta Meddlin Goin On"!

Did ya ever see a politician NOT meddling in the election? HA! Didnt think so!

  Ball.

  Outta the park!

Your mission, should you choose to double team it bruh, is to meddle in the US 
elections by sewing turmoil by shilling for Greta Thunberg being ridden into 
the desert sunset by Jeremy Clarkson, sorry I mean shill for Jesus, bruh :D -- 
actually, shill for anarchism.

Can you shill for anarchism and remain an anarchist?


Re: Lax measures to protecting against the virus

2020-02-23 Thread Ryan Carboni
"You've heard of animals chewing off a leg to escape a trap? There's
an animal kind of trick. A human would remain in the trap, endure the
pain, feigning death that he might kill the trapper and remove a
threat to his kind."