"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

[Ryan Carboni]

Stupidity still makes for one hell of a cover story.

Stupidity doesn't absolve one from responsibility though.

military lock down in 2 weeks, possibly/probably -- [gilma...@gmail.com: From a reliable friend]

[Zenaan Harkness]

Possibility of a military lock down ("Level 5" or whatever they call it) in 
about 2 weeks.

(I.e. scratch this morning's prediction of 6 or so weeks or more!  You might 
have 2 weeks to prepare for the following few weeks.)

Any cash balances in your bank accounts may disappear, or if your're super 
lucky may in some way be converted to the new semi-global currency on the way.
So probably better to spend any cash lying around.
Rum may well hold its value better than fiat currency cash, over the coming 
month or so.


 - New Zealand parliament today announced they too are going home, this for 6 
weeks (vs Australia at officially "6 months" for our federal parliament).
   Parliamentary suspensions all over the place - a quick Yandex.com will find 
some of them, e.g. Ottawa, Australia, New Zealand, Canada.
   e.g. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/parliament-suspended-1.5496469


  Coronavirus: Defence Force, police to patrol streets during New Zealand's 
Covid-19 Lockdown
  
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/03/coronavirus-defence-force-police-to-patrol-streets-during-new-zealand-s-covid-19-lockdown.html
Police officers and Defence Force personnel will patrol New Zealand's 
streets to ensure compliance with public health measures as the country goes 
into lockdown over the ... "I can understand that seeing an increase in 
presence by police and our military may not...


  Coronavirus live news: UK goes into lockdown as WHO...
  
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/23/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-italy-germany-europe-outbreak-cases-meetings-bans-update-latest-news?page=with%3Ablock-5e7913938f0887f6e2b5c345
UK: police to enforce lockdown. Heather Stewart and Rowena Mason report on 
the drastic new measures just announced that will take the UK into lockdown ... 
Coronavirus live updates Australia: national cabinet to consider lockdowns of 
Covid-19 hotspots – latest.


  COVID 19 Delhi Lockdown: Police to issue... | PINKVILLA
  
https://www.pinkvilla.com/trending/india/covid-19-delhi-lockdown-police-issue-curfew-passes-essential-services-inter-state-borders-sealed-518438
After imposing a lockdown in Delhi, the state police seals inter-state 
borders and will be issuing curfew ... According to media reports, after 
announcing the lockdown in Delhi, the government has decided to take strict 
actions against anyone violating the instructions.


  Doctor's plea to place Australia into lockdown due to...
  
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/coronavirus/video-2135832/Video-Doctors-plea-place-Australia-lockdown-COVID-19.html?ns_mchannel=rss=1490_campaign=1490
Australia's top doctors come together to beg Scott Morrison to place 
Australia into total lockdown NOW and say they are 'terrified' of the 
coronavirus. ... Robot designed in China could help save lives amid COVID-19 
crises.


endless articles/news/propaganda to this effect.

"Is my house in order?"

Good luck muh fellow Souls,



- Forwarded message from Gil May  -

From: Gil May 
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 13:07:47 +1000
Subject: From a reliable friend

*Just got a call from a friend works at Woolworths,they’ve been told
that a military lockdown is in place in a fortnight,...only one individual
per household can visit supermarket per day,...its all to be heavily
policed*

- End forwarded message -

Corona cash -- Fw: Aussie parliament: Hand out $84 billion in cash, then piss off for 5 months

[Zenaan Harkness]

Take notice:
---

OK, so with broad compliance (acceptance of the lock down) within our community 
obviating the "need" for a heavier "sanction against the unruly" such as 
electricity grid "lights out", and a steady ratcheting of the "don't panic" 
narrative so that folks are finally dawning with the awareness that 
"something's happening, may be I should buy some spare toilet paper and pasta", 
and finally the "Western" money reset on our doorstep, the Aussie parliament 
has done a sensible thing (from the point of view of TPTB) increasing welfare 
cheques by ~$250 per week.

Then, they packed up parliament for the next 5 months.  Literally.
  
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-23/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-passes-parliament/12080388

Yes, you read that right.


What does it mean?
---

It means that welfare recipients in Australia (those who tend to live week to 
week at subsistence level) are about to get some relevant cash to stock up on 
toilet paper, pasta and potatoes, starting nowish, and first arriving (per the 
normal dole cycle) over the coming two weeks - also, these additional payments 
might continue for a couple of months it seems.


Why is this is a "good thing"?
---

Those otherwise unable, are now able to do a little stockpiling.  If this is 
relevant to you, let's be grateful for how merciful this actually is.

Seriously, if you have not done so already, take the steps you need to, to be 
ready for a month long "full" lock down!

It may not be a full month, or it may end up being a little more. Some guess it 
should only need to be about two weeks.


What does this predict?
---

This tells us that folks should have two or three payment cycles (4 to six 
weeks) to get their house in order, set aside a few supplies for the Level 5 
"hard" lockdown which is evidently coming.

It also means we're perhaps about 3 months out from the global financial reset.

Russia at least has positioned herself extraordinarily well for a beautiful 
sovereign seat!  Thank you Putin!  We shall soon see the beginnings of the 
shape of the new, this time multi polar, world order.

Our gutless cowards in Canberra Australia have sold our nation out to the 
highest NWO bidder to the tune of about a trillion dollars, despite the fact we 
mine so much gold we could have fully backed our entire currency with about 10 
years of our sovereign gold output!

Alas, we are likely to repeat another "century of humiliation" as Rothschild's 
bitches.


As some might say, "you get what you f#@4ing deserve"; howso? well, the fine 
conspiracy theorists at cypherpunks, anti-empire, duran, russia-insider and 
even Donald Trump himself prior to being elected, have been diligently 
highlighting certain conspiracies^Bfacts, for many years now, but humans, the 
sheeple or plebes or plebles, in general "just wanna watch the footy, stop 
bugging me moron!"


Notwithstanding, again, let's be grateful for the reprieve right now, that 
almost everyone is being granted the means to stash some staples for the coming 
transition.




- Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness  -

From: Zenaan Harkness 
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 09:47:50 +1100
Subject: Aussie parliament: Hand out $84 billion in cash, then piss off for 5
 months

Hand out $84 billion in cash, then piss off for 5 months :)


  Coronavirus stimulus package worth $84 billion passed without objection by 
Parliament
  
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-23/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-passes-parliament/12080388


- End forwarded message -

How South Korea Flattened the Curve

[coderman]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/world/asia/coronavirus-south-korea-flatten-curve.html

THE INTERPRETER

How South Korea Flattened the Curve

The country showed that it is possible to contain the coronavirus without 
shutting down the economy, but experts are unsure whether its lessons can work 
abroad.

By [Max Fisher](https://www.nytimes.com/by/max-fisher) and [Choe 
Sang-Hun](https://www.nytimes.com/by/choe-sang-hun)

March 23, 2020Updated 6:38 p.m. ET

No matter how you look at the numbers, one country stands out from the rest: 
South Korea.

In late February and early March, the number of new coronavirus infections in 
the country exploded from a few dozen, to a few hundred, to several thousand.

At the peak, medical workers identified 909 new cases in a single day, Feb. 29, 
and the country of 50 million people appeared on the verge of being 
overwhelmed. But less than a week later, the number of new cases 
[halved](https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a3040200=0030=view_no=366446==4).
 Within four days, it [halved 
again](https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a3040200=0030=view_no=366493==3)
 — [and 
again](https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a3040200=0030=view_no=366512==3)
 the next day.

On Sunday, South Korea reported only [64 new 
cases](https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a3040200=0030), the 
fewest in nearly a month, even as infections in other countries continue to 
soar by the thousands daily, devastating health care systems and economies. 
Italy records several hundred deaths daily; South Korea has not had more than 
eight in a day.

South Korea is one of only two countries with large outbreaks, alongside China, 
to [flatten the 
curve](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/19/world/coronavirus-flatten-the-curve-countries.html)
 of new infections. And it has done so without China’s draconian restrictions 
on speech and movement, or economically damaging lockdowns like those in Europe 
and the United States.

As global deaths from the virus surge past 15,000, officials and experts 
worldwide are scrutinizing South Korea for lessons. And those lessons, while 
hardly easy, appear relatively straightforward and affordable: swift action, 
widespread testing and contact tracing, and critical support from citizens.

Yet other hard-hit nations did not follow South Korea’s lead. Some have began 
to show interest in emulating its methods — but only after the epidemic had 
accelerated to the point that they may not be able to control it any time soon.

President Emmanuel Macron of France and Prime Minister Stefan Löfven of Sweden 
have both called South Korea’s president, Moon Jae-in, to request details on 
the country’s measures, according to Mr. Moon’s office.

The head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, has 
[hailed](https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---18-march-2020)
 South Korea as demonstrating that containing the virus, while difficult, “can 
be done.” He urged countries to “apply the lessons learned in Korea and 
elsewhere.”

South Korean officials caution that their successes are tentative. A risk of 
resurgence remains, particularly as epidemics continue raging beyond the 
country’s borders.

Still, Scott Gottlieb, a former commissioner of the Food and Drug 
Administration, has repeatedly raised South Korea as a model, [writing on 
Twitter](https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1239037491241537536), 
“South Korea is showing Covid-19 can be beat with smart, aggressive public 
health.”

Lesson 1: Intervene Fast, Before It’s a Crisis

Just one week after the country’s first case was diagnosed in late January, 
government officials met with representatives from several medical companies. 
They urged the companies to begin immediately developing coronavirus test kits 
for mass production, promising emergency approval.

Within two weeks, though South Korea’s confirmed cases remained in the double 
digits, thousands of test kits were shipping daily. The country now produces 
100,000 kits per day, and officials say they are in talks with 17 foreign 
governments about exporting them.

Officials also swiftly imposed emergency measures in Daegu, a city of 2.5 
million where contagion spread fast through [a local 
church](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/world/asia/south-korea-coronavirus-shincheonji.html).

“South Korea could deal with this without limiting the movement of people 
because we knew the main source of infection, the church congregation, pretty 
early on,” said Ki Mo-ran, an epidemiologist advising the government’s 
coronavirus response. “If we learned about it later than we did, things could 
have been far worse.”

South Koreans, unlike Europeans and Americans, were also primed to treat the 
coronavirus as a national emergency, after a 2015 outbreak of Middle East 
respiratory syndrome in the country killed 38.

The coronavirus is 

Re: Coronavirus: Thread

[jamesd]

On 2020-03-06 22:46, grarpamp wrote:

today: 100k cases, 3.4k dead another 2.3k to go


The disease is increasing by a factor of ten every two weeks or so.

At the time of your post, 248 dead in Italy.  Yesterday, sixteen days 
later, six thousand, which is probably a massive undercount because the 
hospital system has collapsed and people who die at home without having 
been tested are not being counted as China virus deaths.


It will stop when it has burned through most of the population, or when 
effective detection and treatment is applied.


South Korea instituted drive by testing with no appointment necessary, 
so that getting tested was as easy as picking up fast food, and brought 
the epidemic to a screaming halt.


The way it should work is that after the drive by, you get your test 
results, accompanied, if the test is positive, you get a stern message 
to self isolate, backed by the threat of punitive involuntary isolation, 
and a packet of medicine and the instruction to only show up at hospital 
if you have difficulty breathing.


The experience of South Korea shows that that works.

Note that people sometimes die within a few days of having difficulty 
breathing.

Re: detailed ICU first hand report / COVID-19 - it's really not "just the flu, bro" -- Re: global insanity - Re: Coronavirus: hysteria

[Razer]

This is not a description of the effect of Covid-19. The mucous in the lungs of 
the victim is thick, solidifies, and prevents respiration .


On March 23, 2020 12:30:33 AM PDT, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
>Not pretty:
>
>"Holy Shit, This Is Not The Flu": Medical Worker Describes Terrifying
>Lung Failure From COVID-19... Even In Young [<60 years old] Patients
>https://www.zerohedge.com/health/holy-shit-not-flu-medical-worker-describes-terrifying-lung-failure-covid-19-even-young
>
>   .. They suddenly become unresponsive or go into respiratory failure.
>
>.. “It’s called acute respiratory distress syndrome, ARDS. That means
>the lungs are filled with fluid. And it’s notable for the way the X-ray
>looks: The entire lung is basically whited out from fluid. Patients
>with ARDS are extremely difficult to oxygenate. It has a really high
>mortality rate, about 40%. The way to manage it is to put a patient on
>a ventilator. The additional pressure helps the oxygen go into the
>bloodstream.
>
>“Normally, ARDS is something that happens over time as the lungs get
>more and more inflamed. But with this virus, it seems like it happens
>overnight.
>
>...

Rr
Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice

Re: Recommend hackable tablet?

[Douglas Lucas]

Regarding external keyboard, ideally something wired, not wireless/radio
such as bluetooth. Thanks!

On 2020-03-23 02:26, Douglas Lucas wrote:
> Hey cypherpunks,
> 
> I have never really used a tablet before. When I say "tablet" I, like
> many, picture in my head an iPad.
> 
> I would like to order a tablet or two online. My six criteria are:
>  
> 1) Hackable. So that I could put some generic Linux thing on it, the way
> an everyday smart user, who is not employed by the Free Software
> Foundation, puts Ubuntu on their laptop or Cyanogenmod/LineageOS on
> their smartphone. Without spending my life trying to get it to work, but
> some struggle is okay, around the struggle required to get
> Cyanogenmod/LineageOS working on a typical USian smartphone, etc
> 
> 2) Durable/rugged.
> 
> 3) Fairly convenient. Maybe a few more ports than usual, a few more
> options than usual, maybe some extra power sources or something like
> that.
> 
> 4) Certified refurb would be nice
> 
> 5) Price range around idk $250-$300 or something per tablet. Amazon.com
> says "New Apple iPad (10.2-Inch, Wi-Fi, 32GB) - Space Gray (Latest
> Model)" costs around $280:
> https://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPad-10-2-Inch-Wi-Fi-32GB/dp/B07XL7G4H6/
> But of course surge pricing and out-of-stock is happening everywhere
> because it's corona time. So maybe something in stock would be great,
> older or whatever
>  
> 6) External keyboard accessory would be nice and perhaps mandatory, link
> to this also p|0x?
> 
> Planned use:
> 
> 1) Hook it up to SDR to scan the local security forces -- cops, fire,
> etc -- leave it set up in home that way doing that
> 
> 2) Backup / travel / bug out bag
> 
> If more than one, perhaps identical/similar in different colors for ease
> of telling them apart quickly or sharing them with other human beings
> 
> If anyone can offer some recommendations, I will say something mean
> about a so-called Great Man aspirant soon on my twitter feed
> 
> Thanks <3
> 
> Doug

Cpunk Carl Johnson "CJ" "Toto": Listen To Me, Or Don't. *I* Am Listening To Me...

[John Young]

From: PerformanceArt PerformanceArt 
Subject: Listen To Me, Or Don't.  *I* Am Listening To Me...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dollar-dips-early-trading-kiwi-204656151.html

It was a few weeks ago, when I was incrementally buying small 
quantities of food, silver and gold, and sanitizing supplies---while 
being laughed at---that I saved, as a reminder, a couple of articles 
that basically said, "WTF?  This Financial/Medical Crisis Is 
***DIFFERENT*** than the ones that have come before."
Over a decade ago I bought five gallon buckets of 'survival' 
supplies and a quantity of precious metals and then stored them.  I 
didn't 'warn' anyone to do the same, or proclaim that I was 
particularly more astute or smarter than those who didn't do so.  In 
fact, I didn't particularly think that was the case.  I merely 
thought it was a good move, like financial advisers who suggest that 
one 'diversify' their risk between competing markets.
In the recent 'ascent' of the current 'crisis' I have been ahead of 
the curve in getting out in front of it and the actions I have taken 
have, so far, proven to have increased the survival and 
sustainability of myself and those I love.

Maybe I have just been 'lucky' or maybe I have been 'right'...
It doesn't matter, because my sole purpose for this missive is to 
urge my friends and family to give serious, rational thought to the 
events that are currently taking place and to realize that they have 
to take *responsibility* for their future and their ability to care 
for those they love and humanity in general.
The article I have shared, above, is the 'first sign' of the US 
dollar 'weakening' and beginning to stumble.  Just like the 'first 
signs' that the coronavirus was going to cause some problems.  The 
Russians purposefully abandoned the OPEC alliance in order to throw 
a monkey wrench into the current state of our non-renewable 
resources economy.  Not because they have *bad* intentions, but 
because they are looking for the best forward path for their own 
country, economy and people.  Saudi Arabia then took further 
actions, in retaliation, because they are MORONS who don't fully 
understand that they are playing into the hands of other countries, 
like Russia and China, that are jockeying for position in replacing 
the US as the go-to safe haven investment/currency source. Many 
things are 'happening' and 'changing' behind the scenes that you and 
I aren't privy to.
Do you want my *prediction* about how it is all going to play 
out?  Sorry, don't have a clue...
All I want to communicate to my friends and family is that things 
are 'different' than they have been up to this point in time.  I 
have two copies of 'The Black Swan' so current events haven't 'surprised' me.
Stock up on whatever you need to carry you through uncertain 
times.  Get yourself some precious metals, some CryptoCurrency and a 
supply...dare I say 'hoard'?...of good, old-fashioned fiat 
currency.  If any of the foregoing 'hits the skids' the others will 
vastly increase in value.  Have you ever had anyone tell you they 
wouldn't accept a pound of gold for a loaf of bread?  Me neither...


Breaking News:  Science Has Proven That If You Plant A Garden You 
Are Less Likely To Go Hungry!
All I am saying, is that the only thing you can 'hoard' that has the 
possibility of 'saving' you is...common sense.  If you are receiving 
this email, it is because I love you and that is what I want you to know.


Your government may send you a check for a thousand dollars, to help 
you out.  Or a million, and coupons for a thousand loaves of 
bread.  The coronavirus may kill millions and totally destroy our 
financial structure or it may just go away tomorrow.  It has 
happened before.  The last 'crisis' came to the point where 
everybody, those in power and the common citizen, wondered if 
everything was going to 'implode' and destroy civilization as we 
know it.  It was avoided and we all went, "Whew!" and continued on 
as if nothing had happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_economic_crises?fbclid=IwAR1l1qqua4SDLDohsb_E0LmLie0mybBSd1SU41QyjIxO3ookxsSJezvjEY0
If you want to PANIC!!!

1st century
The Financial Panic of AD 33.
The result of the mass issuance of unsecured loans by main Roman 
banking houses.

Well, it's been done before...many times...and we're still here.

So, here's the deal...
What should you be doing in 'a time of crisis?'  You should be doing 
what you should have been doing all along.  And you *know* what that 
is...for you.  I can't give you any advice, because I know what is 
right for me, and you know what is right for you.  Saint Peter 
denied Christ three times, then picked himself up and did what he 
knew he needed to do.  Buddha sat under a tree until he 'figured it 
out' 

China flu a win win - Re: more flu propaganda to fuel global insanity

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 05:25:56AM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 18:30:33 +1100
> Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> > Not pretty:
> > 
> >   "Holy Shit, This Is Not The Flu":
> 
>   OK - another flu hysteria fucktard added to the list. Then again what 
> else can be expected from a zerohedge-KBG bot. 


For the wall-builder in chief, this virus is quite a gift - from a) decades of 
economic entanglement with the Chinese, and b) the Chinese are (like the West) 
about to experience a mother of a recession, yet now c) the US dollar is 
sky-high, it is a -prime- opportunity for Chinese to sell sell sell (e.g. the 
American pork industry), and convert their dollars back into Yuan! Yuge China 
profits for Chinese, and help to settle the international books whilst we're at 
it - win, win and win.

Trump's nationalist agenda appears to be in full swing.

Sometimes, walls are good.

Re: Trump Tests Positive For Coronavirus

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 01:53 billstew...@pobox.com 
wrote:

> Fortunately, we're all working from home these days, so things being NSFW
are much less of a problem :-)

I was thinking about sharing a list with 50 p0rn sites received yesterday,
but I don't know who made the compilation, it seems a teenager thing, and
don't wanna to feel ashamed because another disastrous email, hahaha!!!  ;D

Re: Coronavirus: Thread

[grarpamp]

Deaths resolved: 12.9%
Active load: +14.9% per day
Death load: +14.3% per day
Total cases: +11.2% per day
Population relevance: 0.00433% case 0.00019% dead

Re: Tracing COVID-19 cases with Google Timeline?

[jim bell]

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/18/israel-passes-emergency-law-to-use-mobile-data-for-covid-19-contact-tracing/

Israel passes emergency law to use mobile data for COVID-19 contact tracing
Natasha Lomas@riptari / 3:25 am PDT • March 18, 2020

Israel has passed an emergency law to use mobile phone data for tracking people 
infected with COVID-19 including to identify and quarantine others they have 
come into contact with and may have infected.
The BBC reports that the emergency law was passed during an overnight sitting 
of the cabinet, bypassing parliamentary approval.
Israel also said it will step up testing substantially as part of its respond 
to the pandemic crisis.

In a statement posted to Facebook, prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu wrote: “We 
will dramatically increase the ability to locate and quarantine those who have 
been infected. Today, we started using digital technology to locate people who 
have been in contact with those stricken by the Corona. We will inform these 
people that they must go into quarantine for 14 days. These are expected to be 
large – even very large – numbers and we will announce this in the coming days. 
Going into quarantine will not be a recommendation but a requirement and we 
will enforce it without compromise. This is a critical step in slowing the 
spread of the epidemic.”




   
The Prime Minister of Israel
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made the following remarks this evening, at 
the joint statements with Health M...   








On Sunday, March 15, 2020, 11:46:22 PM PDT, jim bell  
wrote: 


https://apnews.com/97dbcb6d4ef71a48d15a7ec5dd7b4c48

[partial quote follows]
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel has long been known for its use of technology to track 
the movements of Palestinian militants. Now, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu 
wants to use similar technology to stop the movement of the coronavirus.
Netanyahu’s Cabinet on Sunday authorized the Shin Bet security agency to use 
its phone-snooping tactics on coronavirus patients, an official confirmed, 
despite concerns from civil-liberties advocates that the practice would raise 
serious privacy issues. The official spoke on condition of anonymity pending an 
official announcement.
Netanyahu announced his plan in a televised address late Saturday, telling the 
nation that the drastic steps would protect the public’s health, though it 
would also “entail a certain degree of violation of privacy.”

Israel has identified more than 200 cases of the coronavirus. Based on 
interviews with these patients about their movements, health officials have put 
out public advisories ordering tens of thousands of people who may have come 
into contact with them into protective home quarantine.
The new plan would use mobile-phone tracking technology to give a far more 
precise history of an infected person’s movements before they were diagnosed 
and identify people who might have been exposed.
In his address, Netanyahu acknowledged the technology had never been used on 
civilians. But he said the unprecedented health threat posed by the virus 
justified its use. For most people, the coronavirus causes only mild or 
moderate symptoms. But for some, especially older adults and people with 
existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness.
“They are not minor measures. They entail a certain degree of violation of the 
privacy of those same people, who we will check to see whom they came into 
contact with while sick and what preceded that. This is an effective tool for 
locating the virus,” Netanyahu said.
The proposal sparked a heated debate over the use of sensitive security 
technology, who would have access to the information and what exactly would be 
done with it.
Nitzan Horowitz, leader of the liberal opposition party Meretz, said that 
tracking citizens “using databases and sophisticated technological means are 
liable to result in a severe violation of privacy and basic civil liberties.” 
He said any use of the technology must be supervised, with “clear rules” for 
the use of the information.
Netanyahu led a series of discussions Sunday with security and health officials 
to discuss the matter. Responding to privacy concerns, he said late Sunday he 
had ordered a number of changes in the plan, including reducing the scope of 
data that would be gathered and limiting the number of people who could see the 
information, to protect against misuse.
[end of partial quote]






On Friday, February 21, 2020, 04:45:16 PM PST, jim bell  
wrote: 





I am surprised that when I do a Google search for 'COVID-19 "google timeline" 
', I see essentially no results.

We all know now what COVID-19 (nCov, Coronavirus) is.  From the reports I see, 
this virus has the unusual characteristic of being very contageous for up to 
periods of weeks prior to a person's feeling symptoms.  That is presumably how 
a large fraction of a cruise ship became infected.  This is quite ominous.  If 
epidemiologists were to ask a patient, "tell 

detailed ICU first hand report / COVID-19 - it's really not "just the flu, bro" -- Re: global insanity - Re: Coronavirus: hysteria

[Zenaan Harkness]

Not pretty:

  "Holy Shit, This Is Not The Flu": Medical Worker Describes Terrifying Lung 
Failure From COVID-19... Even In Young [<60 years old] Patients
  
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/holy-shit-not-flu-medical-worker-describes-terrifying-lung-failure-covid-19-even-young

.. They suddenly become unresponsive or go into respiratory failure.

.. “It’s called acute respiratory distress syndrome, ARDS. That means the 
lungs are filled with fluid. And it’s notable for the way the X-ray looks: The 
entire lung is basically whited out from fluid. Patients with ARDS are 
extremely difficult to oxygenate. It has a really high mortality rate, about 
40%. The way to manage it is to put a patient on a ventilator. The additional 
pressure helps the oxygen go into the bloodstream.

“Normally, ARDS is something that happens over time as the lungs get more 
and more inflamed. But with this virus, it seems like it happens overnight.

...

Re: global insanity - Re: Coronavirus: hysteria

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 04:01:37PM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 14:43:32 -0300
> Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Oh, my holy FSM, how I wish it was January again and all we had to worry
> > about was only a nuclear war...  :((
> 
> 
>   well now we have to worry about worldwide martial law...partly thanks 
> to ignorant cowardly fucktards who believe what their masters tell them to 
> believe. There are quite a few in this fine mailing list. 
> 
>   on the other hand, we can take a look at japan's case where the flu 
> allegedly killed 30 people, most of them older than 90. 
> 
>   
> https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/01/national/japan-coronavirus-outbreak
> 
>   "Can the government order city lockdowns to deal with the coronavirus 
> outbreak?
>   ...the short answer is no"
> 
>   "Has a city lockdown ever been employed in postwar Japan?
>   Nagai said he is not aware of any such instance."
> 
>   "Can the government close or curtail public transport to deal with the 
> outbreak?
>   Transport ministry officials in charge of trains and buses said it 
> can’t"
> 
>   "Can the government force public and private schools to be closed?
>   No."
> 
>   "Can the government order private events to be canceled or postponed?
>   Lawyer Nagai says such a step would be inconceivable as that would be a 
> direct violation of the free choice of employment as is defined by the 
> Constitution""
> 
>   "The “state of emergency” declaration issued Friday by Hokkaido Gov. 
> Naomichi Suzuki, for example, requested that residents stay indoors as much 
> as possible this weekend but is not legally binding" 
> 
> 
>   et cetera 


Sure glad I'm not living in China right now .. totalitarianism just a wee bit 
worse than what we have here in Australia at least:

  Famed Dissident: China Welding People Shut in Their Homes to Fight Coronavirus
  
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/02/11/famed-dissident-china-welding-people-shut-in-their-homes-to-fight-coronavirus/

Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng, a blind scholar and Nobel Peace Prize 
nominee who escaped from house arrest and found asylum with the United States 
in 2012, wrote about China’s authoritarian response to the Wuhan coronavirus 
outbreak at the Washington Post last week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/06/warning-chinese-authoritarianism-is-hazardous-your-health/

One of the charges he leveled in the article is that people suspected of 
infection in Wuhan are being welded into their homes by the authorities, their 
doors and windows sealed with metal bars so they cannot escape.
...



Sometimes, walls are good.  With an extreme of "no walls, no distinctions, mega 
equality of each and all", we are bound to set aside conscience and discernment 
(that which we used to name discrimination).

In this world of humans, "we" humans shall forever be learning - re-learning 
history, re-learning about cause and reaction, actions and consequences, 
comfort and totalitarian dictatorships.

'Tis the way of things.

Corona-hysteria and global lock down is one hell of a powerful demonstration of 
globabl power, 'at's fer Surely!

Might as well continue to do one's best to stay ahead of the curve, be 
prepared, care for loved ones.

May y'all sleep well in troubled times.


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If this be the global financial reset (and I can't imagine letting a global 
state of emergency such as it is, go to waste), I is mighty pleased to see it 
done with nary a bullet fired.  That be (though arguably) a good thing.

(FTR, right now with Munchkin's, I mean Manukin's, $4 trillion money scramble 
handout, a little trough feeding is gonna happen first - though one can imagine 
this will only take a few weeks; then we'll likely see national "Level 5" 
lockdowns (no leaving home except for food and medical emergencies, possibly 
not even that) for a few days, perhaps a week, officially "as a tough 
precautionary measure", as our traitorous "leaders" sign up our respective 
nations into a new era of debt creation and short term $$ stability - "it has 
to be done", "we have no choice", "these are tough decisions in difficult 
times", "it's for the good of us all" (in particular, for the Rothschilds).)

At least we're returning to a little more sane walls - nationalism and its 
natural virulogical benefits.  'Dis n.gger be quite impressed.  Impressed with 
the potential results, impressed with the "stably escalating" lock down, 
impressed with the stable and increadibly broad compliance - TPTB have such 
impressive global compliance on this one, there is no need to pull the 
metaphorical trigger (e.g. cut electricity, fuel and/or food) and deliver a 
lesson to the global sheeple "infidel", as we well know where a lack of food 
rapidly descends.

So, I am grateful.

Within most likely weeks, a new regime shall present itself, so now is a great 
time to contemplate