Re: Sustainable anarchist 'communities'

[\0xDynamite]

These problems are all solved over at the wiki of appropedia.org.
Check the "global village", by yours truly.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:13 PM Zig the N.g  wrote:
>
> Thank you again Cari.  Some thoughts:
>
> For anything to last, there must be relevence or perhaps "reality", for the 
> individual.
>
> Fear is one reality, along with love, and survival, and joy and much more.
>
> The survival imperative, gives rise to fear of the unknown (such as a virus) 
> as well as to action.
>
> Some actions are more grounded in reality than others.
>
> One foundation of sustainable anarchist communities, or families, or 
> individuals, is food and water.
>
> Sustaining ones body is a fundamental to survival.
>
> So too is protection from hail storms, and extremes of heat and cold, thus 
> the need for some form of shelter, be it a bridge, or a mansion.
>
> Many clamour for trappings (the mansions, cars etc) to Keep up with Jones's, 
> and without sufficient thought, enslave themselves for decades to usurious 
> banks.
>
> Since abundance is an engineering problem, wisdom might decree cooperation 
> with fellow humans to manifest abundance, without the enslavement of decades 
> of usurious interest payments.  Example - a barn raising, credit cooperatives 
> (before they get bought out by a bank), food growing cooperatives, barter.
>
> Abundance is "merely" an engineering problem... we should work together to 
> uplift, not enslave.
>
> For something to be real to the individual, pathways of action must be 
> cognized, and many also require social validation/reinforcement (thus, 
> pathetic virtue signalling).
>
> Trailblazers or "pioneers" (e.g. RMS) do not need social validation.
>

Sustainable anarchist 'communities'

[Zig the N.g]

Thank you again Cari.  Some thoughts:

For anything to last, there must be relevence or perhaps "reality", for the 
individual.

Fear is one reality, along with love, and survival, and joy and much more.

The survival imperative, gives rise to fear of the unknown (such as a virus) as 
well as to action.

Some actions are more grounded in reality than others.

One foundation of sustainable anarchist communities, or families, or 
individuals, is food and water.

Sustaining ones body is a fundamental to survival.

So too is protection from hail storms, and extremes of heat and cold, thus the 
need for some form of shelter, be it a bridge, or a mansion.

Many clamour for trappings (the mansions, cars etc) to Keep up with Jones's, 
and without sufficient thought, enslave themselves for decades to usurious 
banks.

Since abundance is an engineering problem, wisdom might decree cooperation with 
fellow humans to manifest abundance, without the enslavement of decades of 
usurious interest payments.  Example - a barn raising, credit cooperatives 
(before they get bought out by a bank), food growing cooperatives, barter.

Abundance is "merely" an engineering problem... we should work together to 
uplift, not enslave.

For something to be real to the individual, pathways of action must be 
cognized, and many also require social validation/reinforcement (thus, pathetic 
virtue signalling).

Trailblazers or "pioneers" (e.g. RMS) do not need social validation.

Re: KGP propaganda - Re: On the need for banks

[Cari Machet]

Thank you

Fear is a massive hook

Let me know if I can be of service as you go

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 11:40 PM Zig the N.g  wrote:

> On Sun, May 03, 2020 at 10:21:50PM -0500, Cari Machet wrote:
> > Transition is a false dichotomy
>
> Thank you - that's an interesting proposition.  I'm working on grokking
> this, will try to understand...
>
>
> > Paper Money was invented in China and they soon realized it could be
> faked
> > and banned it
> >
> > Life is a build
> >
> > The problem with bitcoin and blockchain is that the government can become
> > that also but we cannot let that deter the process
> >
> > We build a new structure as they are taking on our old structure
> >
> > Everything is always at play not in stasis
> >
> > Anarchist rule ? Wtvf anarchy is not about ruling and it’s so fucked
> up
> > to write that please clear your conditioning ASAP
>
> I guess my conditioning is more to the "anarchy = chaos" colloquial term
> ... yes, the "rule" of anarchy is no rules or "laws" whatsoever - just
> personal responsibility, private (party party) agreements.
>
> I struggle to escape the looming fear that "real anarchy", due to the
> present, say average state of consciousness of humans, would descend into
> survival of the fittest - so perhaps this "anarchist rule" phrase comes
> from a fear of "being ruled by thugs", which, irony of ironies, is what we
> to a real degree suffer under in today's fake-democracies of course ...
>
>
> I have much to work on internally (including fear), so really, thank you
> for the reminder!
>
>
>
> > On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 9:04 PM Zig the N.g  wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 10:15:52AM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
> > > > On Sun, May 03, 2020 at 03:29:14PM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 3 May 2020 21:03:22 +1000
> > > > > "Zig the N.g"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > One of the ways to reinforce a nation against such predatory
> > > oligarchical financial rule, is a state-run development bank,
> > > > >
> > > > > fascist spam, like the rest of Z.g's spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's a possible transition step, in the context of the existence of a
> > > government, rather than anarchist rule.
> > > >
> > > > Another possible step is printing your own currency rather than
> > > borrowing every dollar from private banks - JFK tried this, although
> it's
> > > not overly dissimilar to creating a federal development bank which
> issues
> > > its own "credit" - in Australia, this is even in our constitution at
> the
> > > state level, although prior to the thieves at Bretton Woods, we also
> did
> > > this with our Commonwealth Bank, and were thus the ONLY nation to come
> out
> > > of World War II with ZERO debt.
> > > >
> > > > Funny how printing your own money means you don't anyone shit.
> > >
> > > "... you don't -owe- anyone shit."
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, our real challenge is how to transition from the world we are
> > > actually in - we cannot begin from utopia, although it may be useful
> to lay
> > > out some of the parameters for your own version of utopia, as then we
> can
> > > think clearly about how to transition from here, to there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Rothschilds did not like that though, and so we Aussies were brought
> to
> > > heel at Bretton Woods.
> > > >
> > > > The technical term for this is "shit show".
> > >
> > --
> > <
> https://about.me/carimachet?promo=email_sig_source=product_medium=email_sig_campaign=gmail_api_content=thumb
> >
> > cari machet
> > about.me/carimachet
> > <
> https://about.me/carimachet?promo=email_sig_source=product_medium=email_sig_campaign=gmail_api_content=thumb
> >
>
-- 

cari machet
about.me/carimachet

NY rooftop dancing -- Re: Soleimani, another perspective -- was Re: Oddly silent

[Zig the N.g]

> [So it may well be that TPTB behind the scenes, and for a totally
>   random example, this one little known M.E., virulently tribal
>   tribe, successfully pushed for the murder of Soleimani in order
>   to keep the conflict alive;
>   Bibi:
>   "We stand fully by the United States in its just battle
> for security, peace and self-defense. ...
> Soleimani is responsible for the deaths of innocent US
> citizens and many others."
>   
> https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-lauds-trump-for-killing-of-irans-soleimani-says-israel-stands-by-us/
> ]
> 
> [Of course, once Iran cut right to the chase and promised to
>   level Israel's 3rd largest city, Haifa, should this war
>   escalate, Bibi backtracked with more stylish moves than Israelis
>   dancing on a New York roof in September;
>   Bibi:
>   “The assassination of Soleimani isn't an Israeli event
> but an American event. We were not involved and should
> not be dragged into it,”
>   https://www.rt.com/news/477604-netanyahu-distances-israel-soleimani-killing/
> ]



Israeli MoD's project to "bury the rooftop dancing Israeli 9/11 search results" 
has come unstuck:

   I Can't Dance: Israeli Military Shuts Down Its 'Dancer Initiative' as Viral 
Video Reportedly Upsets Top Brass
   
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202005051079206426-israeli-military-shuts-down-its-dancer-initiative-as-viral-video-reportedly-upsets-top-brass/
  .. "Senior officers did not like the sight of men dancing like that in 
military fatigues. Apparently, to them, it disgraced the military," the Army 
Radio reportedly said.

Re: Getting involved in crypto

[Karl]

Hey I am also a warlord that took over this man and wants to stay
anonymous.  I can speak to that directly if it helps.

On Tue, May 5, 2020, 7:08 AM Karl  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I used to be a hacker and I heard this group is a good path to being a
> real whitehat.
>
> Unfortunately like so many others I was enslaved by psyops for a while, so
> it might take me some time to get to the point of talking about extracting
> secret keys from hardware, making viruses that clean up after bl*ckhats,
> saying "social engineering" without vomiting, bantering scads of trolls
> away, or saying or doing anything at all that is chosen freely rather than
> negotiated with compromise.
>
> What is mostly going on in this group?  It seems to change sometimes?
>

Re: Listing of Parts of Life

[Karl]

-> Influencing the surrounding environment (a larger life) in a way other
life in that environment responds well to

On Tue, May 5, 2020, 1:33 PM Karl  wrote:

> -> Keep something similar to how it has been (body, environment, culture,
> home ...)
> -> Hold different approaches together and their merits (ways, cultures,
> genes, personalities, memes)
>
> Feel free to rewrite.
>

Listing of Parts of Life

[Karl]

-> Keep something similar to how it has been (body, environment, culture,
home ...)
-> Hold different approaches together and their merits (ways, cultures,
genes, personalities, memes)

Feel free to rewrite.

Deep Divers, there is no such thing as liberation tech

[grarpamp]

Technology is but an agnostic tool.
There is no such thing as a liberation tech,
only applied tech via paths toward something.
One cannot apply a tech toward liberation
without first considering what a state of being
of actual liberation might variously be about,
to know where to go, what to make with the tech.
Democracy being nothing more than a
decentralized form of the murderous dictators
many claim to be liberating themselves or people from,
both forms hardly a state of liberation at all,
yet worshipped and profferred by all too many,
we therefore continue this random series
on path choices...

How to be a tyrant. Sound Familiar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4LtEciQUF8

Deep Divers, let the balloon go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbX-Bvb2u_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U3lEc-IFr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWLntHoTgDA

Re: There is no automated hacking software that can control crowds of people

[Karl]

I was involved in OccupyMaine, one of the many branches of Occupy Wall
Street in Maine.  We were resisting control of the people by the media and
billionaires, by showing people we could talk and survive more safely and
better without them, in city parks, worldwide.

According to our local information, we were one of the last encampments to
shut down.  I've heard people from other encampments say that too, funny.

After the camp was disrupted by some of its own participants, I started a
small place for homeless folk in my apartment and tried to spread the
caring ethics I'd been inspired by in the movement.  I knew how to live
without shelter from courses in wilderness survival, and how to make money
from blockchains, so it wasn't hard at all to provide for those who didn't.

One of the funny things that happened was multiple women started
approaching me sometimes and seemed to make decisions that would heavily
occupy my time.  I was pretty scared of my own arousal because I had raped
someone once, so with me avoiding sex some of the interactions were kind of
strange.  It seemed obvious they were trying to be romantic with me but
didn't actually want to be, but nobody seemed able to verbally confirm this.

What's stranger stillis, through Facebook, a new language was pressured on
me, with a concept of "dogs" and "cats" implying control of humans.  It is
indescribably hard to remember, but it seemed like "cats" were woman forced
into sexual service via whatever means convenient, and "dogs" could have as
many as they wanted but were expected to never talk about that ability and
possibly spread harm or messages or decisions occasionally.  Some kind of
introduction to a rapist group is one possible explanation.  Women I seemed
interested in would actually approach me, _from_any_walk_of_life_.

One was willing to start nonsexually which seduced me and it quickly became
sexual somehow.  She expressed no memory of how we got together.  (she's
not the woman i mentioned to ceci)

I'll need to spend some time recovering my mind after posting this, now.  I
appreciate clear questions.

POWER-SUPPLaY: Leaking Data from Air-Gapped Systems by Turning the Power-Supplies Into Speakers

[grarpamp]

POWER-SUPPLaY: Leaking Data from Air-Gapped Systems by Turning the
Power-Supplies Into Speakers
https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.00395

LED-it-Go - exfiltrate data from air-gapped systems via an HDD's activity LED
USBee - force a USB connector's data bus give out electromagnetic
emissions that can be used to exfiltrate data
AirHopper - use the local GPU card to emit electromagnetic signals to
a nearby mobile phone, also used to steal data
Fansmitter - steal data from air-gapped PCs using sounds emanated by a
computer's GPU fan
DiskFiltration - use controlled read/write HDD operations to steal
data via sound waves
BitWhisper - exfiltrate data from non-networked computers using heat emanations
Unnamed attack - uses flatbed scanners to relay commands to malware
infested PCs or to exfiltrate data from compromised systems
GSMem - steal data from air-gapped systems using GSM cellular frequencies
xLED - use router or switch LEDs to exfiltrate data
aIR-Jumper - use a security camera's infrared capabilities to steal
data from air-gapped networks
HVACKer - use HVAC systems to control malware on air-gapped systems
MAGNETO & ODINI - steal data from Faraday cage-protected systems
MOSQUITO - steal data from PCs using attached speakers and headphones
PowerHammer - steal data from air-gapped systems using power lines
CTRL-ALT-LED - steal data from air-gapped systems using keyboard LEDs
BRIGHTNESS - steal data from air-gapped systems using screen
brightness variations
AiR-ViBeR - steal data using a computer's fan vibrations

Re: [liberationtech] Using Passport NFC Chip To Do Proof-of-Work

[grarpamp]

> From: Jan Lindemann 
> via Perry the Censors Cryptography Mailing List 

> https://medium.com/@janmoritz_48488/using-the-nfc-chip-of-the-passport-to-do-proof-of-work-b77e1a5343a1

>  I came up with a funny idea on how to create an
> egalitarian

In this socialist doctrine (fix: s/let/enforce/ intention) a...

> ... POW mechanism that would let everyone have the same or a very
> similar "hashing rate".
> SHA256 or Scrypt hashing algorithms.

Typical POW cryptocurrency generally doesn't require this sameness.
Only enough well distributed unique, thereby oddswise noncolluding
participants, such that cost of attack by [colluding] adversaries is
too high. Some debates expose ASIC issues therein more than CPU.


In the equal civil rights doctrine...
Well tx mining not necessarily just about freedom right to making
money therein...

Tx mining also known to be a willful rational and necessary
self contribution as needed to support the security and operation
of the blockchain networks one has adopted, therein their interests
held on them preserved, else fail.


> This feature consists in having a private key contained within the chip
> signing a challenge to prove that it hasn't been cloned.

Not without both a [central] key registry, and location, accounts, or
other anal probe tracking to discriminate discard such clones work units.

And without, then loading 1k unique privkeys to 1k blank chips
to run a 1k advantage.

> Passports have likely a similar singing rate

1k custom asci passport chip emulators don't.

> people are likely to only have one passport.

Only sub n%, the elite, of population afford or have
reason to cross "borders" or even have passport.
This in conflict with cryptocurrency empowerment for
minority world to route around ignore and level elite
impediments such as the State.

"Passports" are for sale since forever, and dual or more is a thing.
And printable for $1 each by governments attacking the coin.

Then the idea that one should and must enter themselves into total
submission to the State via the biometric fully doxxed surveilled
databased lightswitch control path to a nightmare papers please
upon demand to do anything world... just to have access to use
or mine or support a bit of such equally corrupted and infected money...
That people should just submit themselves and their NFC ID to
crossreferencing with the pools, the State Departments,
retail stores, logging, etc...

All of that just disgustingly offensive to the entire nature
of cryptocurrency born infused with cryptoanarchy cypherpunk.

Those who want that monetary controlfreak surveillance censorship
lack of freedom in their lives just go stick with their beloved
Gov Fed Corp POS Libra central bank fiat shitcoin.
That's all 99+% of the wannabe cryptocurrencies being
shilled out there amount to anyways.


Far more people own a commodity computing device,
including phone cpu's, they can contribute spare software
cycles to a coin as desired, no State required.


And if really wanted the NFC DSC function (another word for a CA)
asserting over human or device or key (address), for some reason
like smart contracts, this can just as easily be done via
traditional distributed P2P PKI WoT keysigning on the
blockchain, no GovCorp required.

Getting involved in crypto

[Karl]

Hey all,

I used to be a hacker and I heard this group is a good path to being a real
whitehat.

Unfortunately like so many others I was enslaved by psyops for a while, so
it might take me some time to get to the point of talking about extracting
secret keys from hardware, making viruses that clean up after bl*ckhats,
saying "social engineering" without vomiting, bantering scads of trolls
away, or saying or doing anything at all that is chosen freely rather than
negotiated with compromise.

What is mostly going on in this group?  It seems to change sometimes?

Re: There is another automated system that can control crowds of people.

[Karl]

It's so funny to be so scared of this thread and how it talks about things
I've been exposed to =)

Cecilia Tanaka

> You didn't embarrass me in any sense.  I only laugh a bit, sorry!  ;)
>

Haha, I am thinking of how things respond to what is urgent and make cute
errors when they are exposed to too much at once =)  I want to nurture
everyone to be well.

Sorry, nobody understands me better than myself.  I am who I am, just it.
> :)
>

Wow =)  It sounds like there are a lot of things you know that nobody else
in the universe does?  That's so incredibly cool.

I know stuff that only me knows, but I think it's different kind of stuff.

You're living for so long with sorry it is hard for me to phrase this as
>> always, severe persistent violent repeated ongoing breaking of your body
>> that is incredibly incredibly empowering?  It sounds so interesting.
>>
>
> Oh, I always heal pretty well after my accidents, don't worry so much.
> Time, patience and a bit of care and - tcharan! - awesomely new again!  :D
>

I look a little badass because part of my face is permanently paralyzed.  I
had a bad surgery.  Yours sounds to be much better.

Badass means cool: feels like action movie hero
Cool means cute: getting strength and respect (^_^ for me)
^_^ for me means hahaha: nurturing

I don't know what feelings are in the words of your languages.

It sounds like we are alone, I guess.  I found this do you like it?  Se
estiver acordada no fim da tarde a gente passa aí pra te dar oi <3

Well, Karl, sorry for taking so many naps and also my "beauty sleep", but
> these medicines make me painless, but sick and pretty sleepy.
>

Do you like questions?  I like questions but am basically satisfied with
how many I have.  Here are some more for you if you like them:

You look beautiful.  Is this what you mean by "beauty sleep" being
different from naps?

Personally, I don't feel severe pain at all anymore, and often even bump my
cute head because I don't feel the pain of bumping it!  So, personally, I
only take pain meds because I want the people who worry about me to be more
okay.  Is this the kind of medicine you mean or am I totally off base?

I need to sleep while I can.  After the surgery it will be very very hard
> to sleep in the first days and I will take three months for healing.
>

I am so happy and relieved to slowly realize that you must have the needed
experience with the surprising permanent changes of surgery.

Wolverine comics - muuuch better than all the Marvel movies! - always
> teached me to have sleep, food, and water while I can, because we don't
> know what will happen in the next minutes.  So I do it since my early
> childhood.
>

The skunk bear who runs so much they can never stop running and isn't in
this community are they? =)  I have different kinds of friends who can
rapidly heal their body with their mind, the way such animals seem to.  I
love them and I am hurting them. It is nice to think of them =)

There are so many different ways to hack healing.  Really I used to be a
computer hacker who lived in the wilderness without food or medicine.  It
was so peaceful and freeing.  I liked to practice not ever touching the
ground, which really honestly felt like flying.

Hack means to understand the inside workings so much that you can make
anything you want, happen.  This email community is a group of computer
hackers.  We talk badass but are caring and hardworking people.  Personally
I am not a member of this community at this time ^_^

Do you prefer hacking with electric nerve stimulation, wild poultices ...?

Once I climbed to the very top of a tree and the tip broke off with me
clinging to it!  So I angled the whole tree by yanking with my body, to
control the direction of break, and ended up on a nearby tree.  Neurons
were amazing things haha

Peaceful and freeing ... maybe I should reread your replies a little.

Usually, I almost don't sleep and my body hates it.  Always is harder for
> healing and I need patience, but this time I think I will sleep and, with
> some luck, having no nightmares.
>
> Relax, please.  You are more anxious than me when I am having a hardcore
> insomnia crisis.  Listen to some music.
>

Wonderful.  The things you tell me to do will likely help you.  Please try
to continue doing them.  It is such a relief that I get more anxious than
you.

Oh, I love the ocean...  But will never try to have sex in the sea again.
> Almost died trying it.  You know, I love breathing, hahahahaha!!!  ;D
>

It's so cool that you hate drowning and such.  We call fun rides like that
"rape" in english, some talk like it's good and it's quicker to say, do you
know of it?  I might enjoy being drowned while fucked myself.  Kinda
kinky?  I'd need loving preparation for it though or I wouldn't be
expecting my death ^_^

Good night, boy.  Sweet dreams.
>
> Ceci
>

I am filled with love at your feet.

Bliss

>

nationalism vs globalism - urgent need for national tarriffs and bilateral arrangements - Australia, America, Japan, USA - possible false dichotomies

[Zig the N.g]

As false a dichotomy as it may be, on a choice between globalism and 
nationalism, I choose not globalism.

Australians - all ~13 million whites - simply cannot compete against ~1.4 
billion Chinese willing to work for literally a few dollars a day.

Globalism means no tarriffs in Australia protecting Australian jobs.

Jobs for Aussies, rather than enslaving and entraining government "dole" 
handouts and the consequent DGAF population that results, requires what we may 
term "reindustrialization".

Whilst we have a government, and prior versions of this government 
deindustrialized Australia by literally exporting almost our entire 
manufacturing sector to China, and removed all tarriffs, and therefore we lost 
most of our jobs, it is right that the present version of our government is 
getting behind MAGA, which may as well be an alias for reindustrialization.

Previous government caused the problem (deindustrialization) so the present 
government appears to now be allowed to fix the problem, in the face of the 
China virus and Wuhan Health Organisation.

The situation applies in America.


To speed up this reindustrialization, our respective governments have no choice 
but to reintroduce significant import tarriffs, possibly up to 100% or more.

We in Australia, and I believe also the USA, simply cannot compete against the 
will of the Chinese to work for peanuts.

So in the context of all this, and in the face of a lack of viable options 
(sorry about the dichotomy, feel free to suggest better moves forward), I 
choose and support nationalism over globalism.

We have the right to act "collectively" by proxy of our government, at least to 
the extent this is possible/a reality.

To the extent it helps return Australian jobs to Australia, and Australian land 
and the fruits thereof to Australians, and whilst we have a government and are 
awaiting the promised anarchist utopia, our government can even use targetted 
export taxes where appropriate, e.g. on beef, or land sale by foreigners etc., 
in order to get this renationalisation show on the road...



[
Interestingly, there are shimmers of a simmering discontent, some of which may 
well be putting a rocket boosted shiver up the spine of the Rothschilds:

   Italian Town Creates New Currency To Cope With COVID-19
   
https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/italian-town-creates-new-currency-cope-covid-19
   Authored by Joshua Mapperson via CoinTelegraph.com,
   
https://cointelegraph.com/news/italian-town-creates-new-currency-to-cope-with-covid-19

   The Italian town of Bisaccia is the latest to offer homes for $1, and this 
time there's no minimum you have to spend on renovations
   https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/bisaccia-italy-one-dollar-homes
   Two Italian Towns Are Selling Homes for $1—Here’s How to Get One
   https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/579621/italian-homes-selling-one-dollar

   Italian town prints own currency to help locals and businesses
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3kzgCGwW-Y

   Italian Town Prints Its Own Currency to Fight Austerity Measures
   
https://business.time.com/2011/08/30/italian-town-prints-its-own-currency-to-fight-austerity-measures/
   https://www.rt.com/news/italy-town-new-currency-303/
   
https://www.infowars.com/italian-town-prints-its-own-currency-to-fight-austerity-measures/

]

Re: Coronavirus: Thread

[grarpamp]

Larken on Corona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4LtEciQUF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1kAfYeLNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW6C6SgYY2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyJhA5Zp-qc