Re: Cryptocurrency:

2020-05-23 Thread grarpamp
>> so where are the 'second generation coins'...?

Instead of being special asshole you can go search
and post some, make wiki compendium, or go create
some new generation.

> history record... blockchain... immutable

Immutability of value held in UTXO does not
necessarily depend on having any sort of rollable
tx log from genesis. That is indoctrinated ridgid
thinking imparted by old school first gen BTC.

If however way one does reach and accept consensus
over any set of facts, then all that led up to everyone's
knowledge of that or their own particular state in time
is irrelevant and can be discarded.

Yes there are many use cases for "blockchain" tech
where history preservation, view keys, nonprivacy,
industry, application integration, messaging, inventory,
voting, and all sorts of other memes may be useful.
The blockchain space is flooded with thousands
of examples of those projects.

But for cash/metal/chickens/etc, which in all of
history rightly has none of those memes... those
use cases are not relavant, and impede optimal
solutions to a minimalist pure digital cash. All one
ultimately needs to know is did their own nominal value
increase/decrease in relation to another's
by some mutually trusted mechanism [1],
be it hand to hand, or over digital distance.
1) That final entry, that UTXO, is all one needs.
2) And note very clearly that cash/etc even goes
further by its final UTXO not having any "inputs" record
at all... cash is a private ideal state of self existance
without reference to or dependence on anything else.

Any "cryptocurrency" project that does not implement
one of those two forms of UTXO, the second being
the highest form, is not absolutely not worthy of calling
itself a cryptocurrency version of cash/metal/chickens.
Instead, it is a crypto  intended to do a bunch of
random other bloated appfeature shit, that in some cases
might happen to have some tokenizable transferable value,
these days usually back to its GovCorp stock/stake holders.

[1] Including principles of known issuance,
nominal values and the transaction network both
within cost bounds of attack immunity, a network
capable of holding and/or honoring the consensus
over the UTXO state db it produces, etc, etc.


Far too many projects are simply blindly following the
"Satoshi" "Genesis -> blockchain stored forever" model,
they're assuming that's the only way the problems can be solved.
What most are not doing is enough research into discovering
other ways, or into proving that there is no other way.
Too little looking "beyond the now traditional blockchain".

This ongoing fundamental science research,
the calls for and support for it under recognition that
today's technology is very first gen and nowhere
near being a complete field of work, are what appears
to not being done enough.
Or in case it is being done, it's being drowned out in noise
from all the first gen Satoshi model self maximilism projects
trying to dominate the scene. That's nature, but will be
quite fun when further novel research catches and
embarrasses them all out of the scene for good.

That's another reason why cross-chain DEX
(distributed, anonymous, noncustodial, atomic, etc)
must be an absolute research development priority now today...
like the need to escape trap of GovCorp, you don't want to
be trapped in legacy coin models for 10, 100's, 1000's years.
Cross-chain DEX is the freedom oriented path out of those.


> Bitcoin_Satoshi_Vision-BSV ... for information preservation

That and all the rest of the Satoshi models do not then have the
minimal set of properties cash does, therefore they are something
different from cash, a message/storage/token net whatever, they are not
a minimal cash. They are clearly lacking its privacy, non-bloat-storage,
scaleability properties, among others.
BSV Craig Wright has even voiced and brought some things
into BSV and coinspace theory and talk that many people including
cryptoanarchists might find highly undesireable, and that Satoshi
never spoke. From patents, to attitude, to police state, regulation,
and more. All feel differently on BSV.
It's still a satoshi type coin, and like all launched coins is already
baked, can't evolve much or quickly, regardless if people
want them to or not.


Hardly such thing as a single cryptocurrency one can like,
only a set of evolving technologies, capabilities, simplicities.

Cryptocurrency technology still obviously very early days,
no coin considered sacred or special or guaranteed to
last to even 20 years out. Therefore...

The self maximalist single-coin insanity cults out there... must end.
The shilling of pointless shitcoins, getrichcoins, clonecoins,
metoocoins, scamcoins, partnercoins, foundercoins, corpcoins,
bankcoins, govcoins, governedcoins, taxedcoins, kyccoins,
votercoins, votedcoins, stablecoins, waroncashcoins, antiprivacycoins,
censorcoins, closedcoins, cabalcoins, preminedcoins, centralcoins...
all fiatcoins in general... must end.
Blocksize debate... is a 

Re: rights, nationalism, socialism, racism, authoritarianism, anarchism, and China's groupthink

2020-05-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 12:20:24PM -0700, Se7en wrote:
> My region of the county has reopened. It is still such a shocking
> thing. I have written the following blurb, which I seek resolution to.
> 
> How much longer are we going to pretend that 1) everything will return
> to normalcy,


Who's pretending everything will return to "normal"?


> and 2) there was no deviation from normalcy?


Who's pretending that?


> How many
> more weeks are we going to pretend that the Dollar has value, and is
> not dead? How long will it be after the election that the
> secessionists will take their action? How long until the Union
> declares war on China? How long until we charge "authorities" for
> lying to the people, and to the President? How long until we forcibly
> disbar members of the press for lying to the American Public about
> official remarks made by the President?
> 
> These are all pressing matters that no one is talking about.


In the minds of some, they might be - are you suggesting some action(s) for 
those willing?


Re: rights, nationalism, socialism, racism, authoritarianism, anarchism, and China's groupthink

2020-05-23 Thread Zig the N.g
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 04:44:21AM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Sat, 23 May 2020 17:28:09 +1000
> Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> > China's "nationalism" is not the same as we in the West imagine nationalism 
> > to be.
> > 
> > There is a group consciousness, and supreme tribalism within the Chinese 
> 
> 
>   you can't even find china on the map, fucktard.


Guessing you can find Kenya muh n.ggah :)


Re: rights, nationalism, socialism, racism, authoritarianism, anarchism, and China's groupthink

2020-05-23 Thread Se7en
My region of the county has reopened. It is still such a shocking
thing. I have written the following blurb, which I seek resolution to.

How much longer are we going to pretend that 1) everything will return
to normalcy, and 2) there was no deviation from normalcy? How many
more weeks are we going to pretend that the Dollar has value, and is
not dead? How long will it be after the election that the
secessionists will take their action? How long until the Union
declares war on China? How long until we charge "authorities" for
lying to the people, and to the President? How long until we forcibly
disbar members of the press for lying to the American Public about
official remarks made by the President?

These are all pressing matters that no one is talking about.

On 20-05-23 17:28:09, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> [Snip]

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Re: Cryptocurrency:

2020-05-23 Thread Karl
On Sat, May 23, 2020, 8:55 AM other.arkitech 
wrote:

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> Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.
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> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, May 23, 2020 12:39 PM, Karl  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 8:33 AM other.arkitech <
> other.arkit...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> On Saturday, May 23, 2020 12:21 PM, Karl  wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 8:05 AM other.arkitech <
>> other.arkit...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The solution for this problem doesn't fall into the blockchain platform.
>>> The platform will delete the information if evidence signed by the right
>>> private key is presented.
>>>
>>
>> BSV is a blockchain platform that has been working well for me for this
>> purpose of information preservation.
>>
>> If you want to protect a piece of information from "rubberhosing" you
>>> must follow a procedure to safeguard it. for instance :
>>> 1. break down your key into several parts, using the Shamir secret
>>> sharing squeme.
>>> 2 spread the parts acros a distributed group of people you trust
>>> 3 delete the key so nobody can force you to reveal
>>> 4 the attacker must have to coherce a number of people to reconstruct
>>> the private key
>>>
>>>
>> It is true "rubberhosing" is usually mentioned in the context of secrecy
>> and privacy, but it can also be used to force erasure and destruction of
>> information.  In such a case it does not matter whether it is encrypted or
>> not: the device that holds it can be destroyed.
>>
>> Additionally many can indeed coerce a large number of people.  The
>> network would need to preserve the information even if all parties purport
>> to want it removed.  Most blockchains have pulled that off, although I
>> imagine there are other solutions too.
>>
>>
>> storing in a single device is never secure. it must be distributed.
>> If you want the info never ever deleted by any means you just destroy de
>> private key used to store it.
>>
>
> It sounds like USPS can store things in this reliable way, spreading them
> among many devices?
>
> That really seems the biggest value of a blockchain to me.  It also
> attempts to prove when the data was created, as consensus time is included
> in the block confirmation algorithm, which shows that it was not fabricated
> after the fact.
>
>
> The 'registry' function is an important feature. To me, the most important
> feature is the ability to create a perceived macroeconomy based on all
> detailed microeconomies produced by millions of personal coins, which was a
> design feature of USPS.
> In USPS there is not a concept of 'block'. I changed the wording in the
> USPS context to avoid confusion. Instead there exist the homologous concept
> 'diff', representing the difference between the previous state and the next.
> A diif is used to be appplied to a base state producing the next state.
> The both the previous state and the diff can be forgotten or deleted
> because they are never needed again.
> That's way USPS is 'lean', lightweight, not bloated with past information,
> and that's why USPS is not immutable (as a positive trait) and for so it is
> very easy to upgrade the cypher suite without compromising past encrypted
> data.
> Immutability is a threat to privacy.
>

There is no such thing as privacy.  Only the shared respect of not looking
hard enough.


Re: Coronavirus: Thread

2020-05-23 Thread grarpamp
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-guidance-management-patients.html
https://www.nih.gov/health-information/coronavirus
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/
https://files.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/guidelines/covid19treatmentguidelines.pdf
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_membrane_oxygenation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_Life_Support_Organization
https://www.elso.org/COVID19.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_hospital_beds


Those sitting on $Millions in excess crypto with nothing
better to do and who prefer capital over consumables could
donate ECMO or other machines.
Others donate CPU time to corona compute projects.
Or buy food for neighborhoods.


Or Frankenstein yourself with incomplete used gear...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Medtronic-Bio-Medicus-Bio-Cal-370-550-Bio-console-ECMO-Low-Worldwide-Postage/164192903584


rights, nationalism, socialism, racism, authoritarianism, anarchism, and China's groupthink

2020-05-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
China's "nationalism" is not the same as we in the West imagine nationalism to 
be.

There is a group consciousness, and supreme tribalism within the Chinese where 
(almost the complete majority of) Chinese nationals do in fact live for the 
party, the motherland, and most importantly, for all Chinese.

Remember Bruce Lee screaming "I am Chinese!".

Observe how the Chinese in Western lands are aware and watching all around them 
in a way that is quite foreign to most Westerners, as they clamour for 
opportunity.

But this "opportunity" that Chinese people seek is not for the individual (the 
glorious penultimate "individual" direction the Westerner is taught to seek), 
but for his family and his entire (1.5 billion in number) tribe.

Remember the definition of "business" in Chinese: it means "take advantage".

The Northern/Nordic tribes necessarily - i.e. for their/our very survival - had 
to work collectively, or the winter had a way of ending your and or your 
family's lives.  For the Chinese it's been a few thousand years of "who can 
grow more rice" than his neighbour, and with ~1.5 billion people, competition 
for very survival.

So a Chinaman abroad is literally seeking resources - new land, food, energy 
etc - for his family and for a billion other people.

   Watch: China Expert Warns Communist Regime Unlike Anything "Since The Third 
Reich"
Cabot Phillips via Campus Reform
   
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-china-expert-warns-communist-regime-unlike-anything-third-reich
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcD3cD8uFUM

  .. Pointing first to China’s response to COVID-19, Chang called out the 
attempt to place blame on other nations, saying “What we are seeing with the 
coronavirus is an attempt by the Chinese Communist Party to change the 
narrative around the entire world… the virus has an origin in Wuhan. Beijing 
has tried to change that, at times suggesting it came from the United States.”

  .. Xi believes China is the world’s only sovereign state.

  .. Chang detailed how their Confucius Institutes “report in reality to 
the Communist Party’s United Front Work Department. That means these are 
attempts to subvert other countries. Why would China spend so much money on 
U.S. campuses? It’s not just because they want to teach the Chinese language. 
They want to put forth narratives and restrict what is said about China on 
American campuses.”

  Pointing out the lack of reciprocity, he noted, “The U.S. is not 
permitted to have institutes like this in China. You don’t have a Lincoln 
Center or Roosevelt Institute… we know that propaganda is absolutely critical 
to totalitarian regimes.” In closing, Chang noted the impact political 
correctness has had on the failure of American colleges and universities to 
call out China’s infiltration efforts.

  “What we’ve seen in the U.S. is political correctness gone wild in 
connection with coronavirus.. where any criticism of China is deemed to be 
xenophobic or creating racism against Chinese Americans. That’s absolutely 
wrong.

  You’ve got to remember that the Chinese regime is deeply racist with its 
Han nationalist ideology. This is something we haven’t quite seen since The 
Third Reich.

  To say criticism of a racist regime is racist is absolutely wrong. People 
have serious concerns about China and we have to have the right to have open 
discussions about it without the name calling.”




Also note that the lack of reciprocity between China and the rest of the world 
extends to many many aspects of our "modern industrialized societies", for 
example land ownership - China has for decades (and still to this day) been 
given an incredibly unfair advantage by our own governments (Labour Party in 
Australia, Democrats in the USA etc) to buy any and all land, businesses, 
buildings etc in our countries, whilst we cannot buy "even one matchbox full" 
of "Chinese" dirt!

A litany of such plainly unfair imbalances exist.

We the White race are literally the minority on this planet - although to many 
it may not seem so.  And in the face of the raging dragon, we have lost much, 
possibly most, of our previous competitive advantages on the world stage - 
namely manufacturing and commerce, which China nowadays utterly dominates, and 
note well, this is "the real economy" which NO amount of financialization can 
ever compensate for in the long term!

We have a right as voluntarily joining collectives under the banner of 
families, states and nations, to protect our culture, and to have conversations 
around all of this - it is not racist to talk about what we as individuals 
(individually and/or collectively) want!

It is not racist to have personal preferences in relation to culture, 
association, and political preferences.

It is not racist to want to maintain a majority of our own race of people IN 
OUR OWN COUNTRY!

The angry dissenters of the world decry every reasonable preference by 
reasonable people as 

God is real: Lady Luscious in -epic- burn to USA press corps: "maybe we're visual learners"

2020-05-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
The heavens smile today as our new White House press secretary Ms Kayleigh 
"Lady Luscious" McEnany delivers an epic burn to the USA press corps:

   McEnany: "Did anyone take it upon themselves to pose any questions about 
Michael Flynn and unmasking to President Obama's spokesperson?" she asked.

   Rando journalist: "but buh but Flynn's name wasn't mas--"

   McEnany: "So I would like to lay out a series of questions and perhaps, if I 
write them out in a slide format - maybe we're visual learners and you guys 
will follow up with journalistic curiosity."


Oohh.  Ouch.  Aargh!  Epic  mic  drop !!   Absolutely burned!

Go you sweet thang :D

Yes, CNN and co. are most definitely in the slow class and must be treated as 
"visual learners".  We have no doubt about that m'lady :D

She then literally played four (that's the number "4" for the visual 
learners...) slides each with four simple questions to ask:

  - "Why did the Obama Admin use opposition research, funded by a political 
organization and filled with foreign dirt to SPY ON MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP 
CAMPAIGN?"

  - "Why was Lt. Gen. Micahel Flynn UNMASKED by Obama's Chief of Staff, Joe 
Biden, Susan Rice, and others?"

  - "Why was Flynn's identity leaked - A CRIMINAL ACT - to the press?"

  - "Why did the DOJ learn about the FBI's interest in Flynn's 
conversations with the Russian Amb. from a CONVERSATION WITH OBAMA in the Oval 
Office?"



Now, in an even more epic moment, even for the atheists amogst our ranks, this 
happed shortly before Trump wrapped up his Friday (just gone) press conference, 
which he called

only 13 minutes in advance!

Now that must be important - so why was it important?

   Trump: "Some governors have deemed liquor stores and abortion clinics as 
essential, but have left out churches and other houses of worship. It's not 
right."

   Update (1400ET): President Trump on Friday declared churches to be 
'essential', and says he will 'overrule' governors who don't allow them to open 
"right now."

So why is this such awesome news (for those who don't quite get it)?

Because this is  OUR RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE !!

Human rights baby!  Yee haw!

You have the right to assemble, the right to communicate - and while you're at 
it, uphold with others your great 2nd amendment too!

And for the be-subjugated men amongst us: you can't let a woman Salon hair 
stylist put you to shame now can you?

Live it muffas!


   Trump Declares Houses Of Worship Essential, Says Governors Must Allow 
Services Or 'I Will Overrule Them'
   
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/watch-live-trump-announces-surprise-press-conference


   "We're Gonna Do It God's Way!" - Baltimore Pastor Rips Up Cease-And-Desist 
Letter
   
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/were-gonna-do-it-gods-way-baltimore-pastor-rips-cease-and-desist-letter
  A Baltimore County pastor ripped up a cease-and-desist order mid-sermon 
Wednesday evening after county officials threatened him with a fine earlier in 
the week for holding in-person services.
  Calvary Baptist Church's pastor, Stacey Shiflett, tweeted a video clip of 
the sermon, where he was seen ripping up the cease-and-desist order that 
informed him if the church continued to conduct services, a $5,000 fine would 
be applied.
  https://t.co/klOrD2Bgn7
  .. Shiflett's fight with county officials is outlined in our latest piece 
titled ""Land Of The Free?" - The Polarizing Politics Of A Pandemic Exposed."
  https://www.zerohedge.com/political/polarizing-politics-pandemic-exposed


   White House Press Secretary Stuns Journos With Interactive 'Obamagate' 
Presentation On How To Do Their Jobs
   
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-house-press-secretary-stuns-journos-interactive-obamagate-presentation-how-do-their
  .. https://t.co/FQ475dZOJt
  White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany point-blank asked all the 
journalist at the press conference if they had contacted Obama‘s press 
secretary about the unmasking of general Flynn.
  Pure silence.
  .. https://t.co/XakC89gzYz



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