Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...

2020-07-27 Thread Mirimir
On 07/27/2020 04:24 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 00:29 Mirimir  wrote:
> 
>>
>> I don't trust surgeons.
>>
> 
> My dearest love, may you tell me the reasons why you don't you trust
> surgeons, please?

Because, for the most part, what they know is anatomy and surgery, and
so they tend to see surgery as the best option. They're also more full
of themselves than other doctors.

The history of spinal surgery, in particular, is replete with all sorts
of disastrous operations. See
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=malpractice+spinal+surgery=ffnt=web for
examples.

> In this specific moment, your answer will probably be very interesting for
> me.
> 
> Do you appreciate or, at least, trust doctors in general or not?  Some
> specifically medical area?

I generally don't trust doctors. In the US anyway, they're generally
driven too much by greed for money and status. And far too manipulated
by the pharmaceutical and device industries. But there are many who are
truly caring and competent, of course.

> I trust only a few surgeons.  And I would give my life for only one of them
> because he saved me a few months ago.  Not in a surgery, he explained me
> very important subjects about my body, trusting in my capacity of
> processing informations rationally...  wow...  The human body and its
> anatomy are fascinating, an astonishing beauty even when is damaged, hurt
> like mine...

OK, so _he_ sounds like a _good_ surgeon :)

And yes, we are very complicated machines. But fortunately, we're also
amazingly good at self-repairing. Although it can take a _long_ time :(

Be well <3



Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...

2020-07-27 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 00:29 Mirimir  wrote:

>
> I don't trust surgeons.
>

My dearest love, may you tell me the reasons why you don't you trust
surgeons, please?

In this specific moment, your answer will probably be very interesting for
me.

Do you appreciate or, at least, trust doctors in general or not?  Some
specifically medical area?

I trust only a few surgeons.  And I would give my life for only one of them
because he saved me a few months ago.  Not in a surgery, he explained me
very important subjects about my body, trusting in my capacity of
processing informations rationally...  wow...  The human body and its
anatomy are fascinating, an astonishing beauty even when is damaged, hurt
like mine...


Re: communicating with police officers, narratives, discrimination

2020-07-27 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 17:24 таракан  wrote:




> Seriously I wonder why this list is for cypherpunks...


This list is for everyone.  CypherPunks included, but not exclusive.  No
censorship
about messages, subjects, ideas, people...  <3

I'm sorry my understanding of life is ... leave me alone, let me live as I
> want and don't control me.
>

Sincere advice:  - Avoid serious romantic relationships and living with
parents, hahahaha!!  ;D

I do love living alone since I was a pretty cute girl, but there are always
too much bureaucracy, and bills, taxes, home disasters, whatever...

>


The Guardian: US attorney general may be using Assange case for political ends, court told

2020-07-27 Thread jim bell
The Guardian: US attorney general may be using Assange case for political ends, 
court told.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jul/27/us-attorney-general-julian-assange-extradition-case-political-ends-uk-court-told


Re: communicating with police officers, narratives, discrimination

2020-07-27 Thread таракан


> > Many of the problems of police enforcement, especially unwarranted
> > violence, cannot be solved until the human officers are replaced by
> > androids.

There is not much difference between a US cop and an android now... same 
zombie, fanatic

I guess... yeah... with police robots will be much better indeed :-)
This will solve all issue. Why not also giving them power to make the law like 
the Judge Dreed character in the US comics ?

Or that robocop alternative, 'Cain' aka "you've got fifty seconds to comply"

Seriously I wonder why this list is for cypherpunks...
People here want robot-cops, praise pro-cops protesters, praise techno-control 
etc...

I'm sorry my understanding of life is ... leave me alone, let me live as I want 
and don't control me.







Re: Fwd: give a listening ear to those who might "struggle"

2020-07-27 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Still about giving an ear and a mask to someone...  ;)

https://imgur.com/gallery/9CHUI5i

Kisses and hugs!!!  <3


Re: Donbass -- Re: Assange

2020-07-27 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 05:20:06PM +, таракан wrote:
> On Monday, 27 July 2020 г., 19:52, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:46:29PM +, таракан wrote:
> >
> > > BTW I do not live in RUSSIA I live in DONBASS
> >
> > A helicopter extraction (or whatever) of Assange from Supermax
> I did not say from supermax... so far he is not yet there
> 
> > if it were me, I thing I'd rather go to trial, get it out of the way, pay 
> > the price of the result if I have to.
> 1) it is not you...
> 2) 'pay the price' is implying there is some sort of justice in the arrest of 
> Assange and his 'trial'. Certainly you must be joking.
> Whatever you do not like the man is another story but you should have a bit 
> of honesty there and not pretending what happen against Assange is - even 
> partly - the result of a legal process.

Thank you - yes, bad implication, I meant in generic sense as "the price of 
choosing to be the lamb [to the slaughter]".


> > Folks in Donbass on the other hand could no doubt make a few dollars go a 
> > long way.
> 
> We can find volunteers here, also some Chechens.(note: one *always* find some 
> Chechens, these guys like war and action like narcotics)

Ha!  That's really funny :)


> > Will you accept a small donation for improving day to day life in Donbass, 
> > via PayPal?
> I'm not sure if it's a joke. Hardly there is PayPal there at first (recall 
> it's family-orientated lol)... secondly making life less miserable for people 
> in Donbass will happen the day they win over fascist Ukraine and especially 
> they mega-powerful masters, e.g. the deep fascism in the USA and Europe.

I do not know what can be purchased online or across the border in Russia - I 
made a donation two (?) years ago to a lady who was regularly taking supplies 
across the border, and she accepted paypal donations.


> As for a commando-style extraction of Assange, it is probably extraordinary 
> risky, extraordinary costly but so far it may be the only way to save him 
> from a terrible fate.
> 
> I still think there are one other way, without any sort of military or risky 
> action. I'm of course not speaking of any 'legal' farce.
> 
> As for helicopter extraction, it works. There is a long history of such acts. 
> As for Assange which is so high-profile, that is another story.


Re: Donbass -- Re: Assange

2020-07-27 Thread таракан




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On Monday, 27 July 2020 г., 19:52, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:46:29PM +, таракан wrote:
>
> > BTW I do not live in RUSSIA I live in DONBASS
>
> A helicopter extraction (or whatever) of Assange from Supermax
I did not say from supermax... so far he is not yet there

> if it were me, I thing I'd rather go to trial, get it out of the way, pay the 
> price of the result if I have to.
1) it is not you...
2) 'pay the price' is implying there is some sort of justice in the arrest of 
Assange and his 'trial'. Certainly you must be joking.
Whatever you do not like the man is another story but you should have a bit of 
honesty there and not pretending what happen against Assange is - even partly - 
the result of a legal process.


> Folks in Donbass on the other hand could no doubt make a few dollars go a 
> long way.

We can find volunteers here, also some Chechens.(note: one *always* find some 
Chechens, these guys like war and action like narcotics)

> Will you accept a small donation for improving day to day life in Donbass, 
> via PayPal?
I'm not sure if it's a joke. Hardly there is PayPal there at first (recall it's 
family-orientated lol)... secondly making life less miserable for people in 
Donbass will happen the day they win over fascist Ukraine and especially they 
mega-powerful masters, e.g. the deep fascism in the USA and Europe.

As for a commando-style extraction of Assange, it is probably extraordinary 
risky, extraordinary costly but so far it may be the only way to save him from 
a terrible fate.

I still think there are one other way, without any sort of military or risky 
action. I'm of course not speaking of any 'legal' farce.

As for helicopter extraction, it works. There is a long history of such acts. 
As for Assange which is so high-profile, that is another story.




Donbass -- Re: Assange

2020-07-27 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:46:29PM +, таракан wrote:
> BTW I do not live in RUSSIA I live in DONBASS


A helicopter extraction (or whatever) of Assange from Supermax is Quixotic and 
leaves Assange on the run, if it were me, I thing I'd rather go to trial, get 
it out of the way, pay the price of the result if I have to.  But I am not 
Assange.  In any case, I would not support such a "movie tier" spectacular 
entertainment.

Folks in Donbass on the other hand could no doubt make a few dollars go a long 
way.  Will you accept a small donation for improving day to day life in 
Donbass, via PayPal?

May be others will chip in too...


Re: communicating with police officers, narratives, discrimination

2020-07-27 Thread Steven Schear
Many of the problems of police enforcement, especially unwarranted
violence, cannot be solved until the human officers are replaced by
androids. The almost universal reason for excessive violence are unfit
officers and the officer's fear of injury or death. When this is no longer
a factor there is no longer a reason for this violence.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 5:44 PM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> Some people seem to like to direct their anger at external authorities, or
> treat certain other humans with disdain because they've had a bad
> experience with someone else of the same profession/job/ race/ sex/
> whatever.
>
> There are bad apples around, but it may be in your personal interest to
> keep in mind that many police officers at least originally joined the
> police because they either wanted to make a positive difference in their
> community, and/or they actually wanted to see righteousness upheld in their
> community and the obvious corollary, to see unrighteousness be held to
> account.
>
> Such principles at least in their essence are honourable, and with
> inherent dignity.
>
>
> As many with open eyes can see, there are powerful forces at work today,
> particularly in the USA, which are acting with the intention to bring about
> great chaos in your communities, and one way they do this is by using their
> dogs in the media to try to program the sheeple to see external authorities
> as purely negative and without any redeeming factors.
>
> Such dichotomies or black and white absolutes, are obviousy false even at
> a quick glance, and we do no favour to ourselves, or to those we care
> about, to hold to such black/white bullshit.
>
> When roaming gangs come to the door of you and those you love, a natural
> instinct for many is to immediately seek the support of external
> authorities which at least nominally are intended to be in such a role of
> support.
>
>
> We are all human, with human failings and human tendencies.
>
> We ought consider carefully the "mainstream media" narratives we are fed,
> and the foundation intentions which might be underlying the messages put to
> us.
>
> We each play a role in creating our world, and sitting on the fence "as a
> mugwud bird, with his mug on one side, and his wud on the other side of
> that fence, pretending to be impartial" is an actual choice, and in this
> sense is a very real action, with very real consequences - because you see,
> he might think he is "impartial", but he still shits on one side of the
> fence...
>
>
> Our maker endowed us with some capacity for discrimination, and perhaps
> now is a useful time to get back to using this power of discrimination, to
> actively discriminate between right and wrong, truth and bullshit, good and
> evil.
>
>
>


Re: Red Bull - Official Drank o' The Alt-Freakin-Right - "you know you love 'em Ossie sheilas"

2020-07-27 Thread Zig the N.g


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 02:32:34PM -0400, Karl wrote:
> Here the article says the person who, below, is quoted as having worked
> continuously on inclusion, "tried to create a schism", while to me it seems
> obvious they were struggling to do the opposite.


Hey Karl,

do you see the fundamental division being created by those deep behind the BLM 
movement, that it is actually an anti-White movement?

If you can acknowledge that there really are two sides to the movement, and 
certain specific problems within the movement, then there would be scope for 
discussion.

A recent book published is a classic example which highlights certain of these 
problems, just like the "cop watch" thing, most efforts by the naieve, tend 
strongly to create the very schism they proclaim to oppose [links in original]:

 Universities Across America Want Students To Read This Book. We Did It For 
You...
 Maria Copeland via CampusReform.org,
 https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=15249
 
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/universities-across-america-want-students-read-book-we-did-it-you

   Amid a nationwide call for anti-racist education, White Fragilityby Robin 
DiAngelo has gained massive popularity and university endorsement. 

   The book, which shot to the top of best-seller lists following the death of 
George Floyd and subsequent widespread movements, has been highlighted on 
recommended reading lists by universities nationwide, including Ivy League 
schools such as Cornell, Harvard, and Yale.

   Campus Reform decided to find out why. 

   The angle that sets this book apart from similar texts is likely its 
development of “white fragility” as the catalyst of all racial conflict.  

   White fragility, according to DiAngelo, is a phenomenon that occurs when 
people of color confront white people on race-related issues. Categorically, 
white people will react with “a range of defensive responses,” which include 
“emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt and behaviors such as argumentation, 
silence, and withdrawal from the stress-inducing situation” and which “work to 
reinstate white equilibrium as they repel the challenge, return our racial 
comfort, and maintain our dominance within the racial hierarchy.”

   This behavior, DiAngelo clarifies, “is born of superiority and entitlement. 
White fragility is not weakness per se. In fact, it is a powerful means of 
white racial control and the protection of white advantage.” 

   Essentially, she argues that white people’s distaste for racial 
confrontation is responsible for perpetuating white supremacy. 

   Additionally, DiAngelo recognizes that white people do not like to be 
classified at large under a broad category, and she predicts throughout the 
text that white readers will reject her arguments because of this sensitivity, 
which is a tendency that they must simply learn to overcome.

   DiAngelo makes the case that “racism is deeply embedded in the fabric of our 
society,” saying that all racist acts stem from institutional racism. This 
means that “only whites can be racist” because “in the United States, only 
whites have the collective social and institutional power and privilege over 
people of color.” She acknowledges the occurrence of individual racist acts, 
but says such actions are “part of a larger system of interlocking dynamics.” 
Consequently, according to her standards, racism is a behavior unique to white 
people that cannot be demonstrated by people of color.

   Not only have all white people demonstrated racism, DiAngelo says,  but they 
are doomed to do so indefinitely. She suggests that there is no way for white 
people to grow up without being racist, because white parents cannot raise 
their children in such a way that they do not benefit from and perpetuate 
racism in America. Not only that, but white parents cannot teach their children 
not to be racially prejudiced, and if they train their children not to express 
racism verbally, they are only teaching censorship. 

   Further, she suggests, race always influences a situation, so there is 
nothing coincidental about the color of someone’s skin and any conflict in 
which they are involved: “On some level, race is always at play, even in its 
supposed absence.” 

   Another concept DiAngelo redefines is that of white supremacy. 

   “White supremacy describes the culture we live in, a culture that 
positions white people and all that is associated with them (whiteness) as 
ideal. White supremacy is more than the idea that whites are superior to people 
of color; it is the deeper premise that supports this idea—the definition of 
whites as the norm or standard for human, and people of color as a deviation 
from that norm.” 

   Under this description -- which neglects to acknowledge the impact of its 
traditional connotations, such as ties to the KKK -- all white behavior can be 
categorized as not only racist but also as white supremacist. No one likes to 
be broadly categorized, but the 

Re: Red Bull - Official Drank o' The Alt-Freakin-Right - "you know you love 'em Ossie sheilas"

2020-07-27 Thread jim bell
 

On Sunday, July 26, 2020, 11:57:44 AM PDT, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 
 wrote:  
 
 On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 19:41:49 + (UTC)
jim bell  wrote:

>>  On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 11:38:06 AM PDT, Shawn K. Quinn 
>> wrote:
>  
>> Welp, looks like Coca-Cola Energy it is for now, 

>> Jim Bell's comments:I discovered Coke Zero a few years ago.  


   > wow - just wow...

Uh, why "wow"?