Re: more email blocking/censorship.

2021-05-21 Thread Karl
>   hotmail shows the same behaviour. Hotmail to cock.li works. Cock.li to
> hotmail messages are silently discarded.
>> If this is intentional on the part of Google, it's absolutely despicable.
>
>
>   kinda looks like there is one 'shared' blocking list and it's being 
> used by
> pg's spam filter, it's being used by google, and...the rest of the arpanet
> prolly.

the recent "*SPAM*" rejections showed cock.li on pretty much every blacklist.


Re: more email blocking/censorship.

2021-05-21 Thread juan


I'm posting this on-list to make sure Shawn sees my reply. I replied to 
him directly but I don't know if the heliohost.us --> rushpost.com path works. 

As another datapoint, last week part(I think) of heliohost.us got 
banned by google, and  if I send a message to gmail.com I do get a 'message 
can't be delivered' bla bla reply. I was also told that the bans eventually 
clear, though I  have my doubts. 



On Fri, 21 May 2021 10:33:54 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:

> On 5/20/21 21:20, juan wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I sent a message from  pu...@tfwno.gf to gbne...@petascale.org (which I 
> > believe goes through gmail) and another message to karl and apparently they 
> > didn't get them which leads me to believe that cock.li messages are now 
> > being discarded by google/sent to gmail's spam folder or something?


> 
> Gmail to cock.li (firemail.cc) works for me. Cock.li to Gmail hasn't
> gone through yet after several minutes (nothing in spam folder).


hotmail shows the same behaviour. Hotmail to cock.li works. Cock.li to 
hotmail messages are silently discarded. 


> 
> If this is intentional on the part of Google, it's absolutely despicable.


kinda looks like there is one 'shared' blocking list and it's being 
used by pg's spam filter, it's being used by google, and...the rest of the 
arpanet prolly. 





Ars Technica: Vulnerabilities in billions of Wi-Fi devices let hackers bypass firewalls

2021-05-21 Thread jim bell
Ars Technica: Vulnerabilities in billions of Wi-Fi devices let hackers bypass 
firewalls.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/farewell-to-firewalls-wi-fi-bugs-open-network-devices-to-remote-hacks/


Re: more email blocking/censorship.

2021-05-21 Thread Karl
On 5/21/21, juan  wrote:
> On Fri, 21 May 2021 02:07:11 -0400
> Karl  wrote:
>
>> Received no personal messages from you recently.
>
>   Thanks for the confirmation.
>
>
>>
>> To reach me reliably basically repeated contact via multiple channels is
>> needed.
>
>   Isn't it hilarious? Every new day all this technofascist garbage gets
> closer to useless, unless you send stuff from a@GOOGLENSA to b@GOOGLENSA.

Although it has certainly worsened over the years, and is expected to
worsen further, that statement has been true for me ever since I
participated in anti-big-energy activism around 2012.

I'm hard to reach because I experience both censorship and behavioral
issues.  Most people have at most one of those, so there's usually
some reasonable way to reach them, such as a more reliable messaging
service than email.

Here's a ricochet id for me that may work for a little bit:
ricochet:oned7uvcksmbe3fl


Science X: Bell's theorem refuted

2021-05-21 Thread jim bell
Science X: Bell's theorem refuted.
https://sciencex.com/news/2021-05-bell-theorem-refuted.html
"Different Bell".


Re: more email blocking/censorship.

2021-05-21 Thread juan
On Fri, 21 May 2021 02:07:11 -0400
Karl  wrote:

> Received no personal messages from you recently.

Thanks for the confirmation. 


> 
> To reach me reliably basically repeated contact via multiple channels is
> needed.

Isn't it hilarious? Every new day all this technofascist garbage gets 
closer to useless, unless you send stuff from a@GOOGLENSA to b@GOOGLENSA. 

also, since last week the google criminals are also blocking 
heliohost.us so that's another link they cut. 


grarpamp wrote:
>Send me test spam direct if you want.

just sent you a message with subject "i love google" - Im sure that one 
will get through

>Cock to gmail has vanished before.

First time for me. I don't think it ever happened since I started using 
it ~2.5 years ago. 








Re: *SPAM* Monty Python

2021-05-21 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bW4vEo1F4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBcY3W5WgNU

Lovely spam, now then.


Re: more email blocking/censorship.

2021-05-21 Thread grarpamp
Cock to gmail has vanished before.
se7en did show up on list recently.
Send me test spam direct if you want.


Re: UFO: Inside the BlackVault, FOIA POSSE, MKULTRA, ARTICHOKE, BLUEBIRD

2021-05-21 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGueCs5gJLQ UFO's Above And Beyond
Documentary w Doohan MAJIC MAJESTIC MJ-12 CIRVIS BLUEBOOK S4 Billy
Meier Mexico

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke_xLeEzxaI Dreamland Area 51 UFO
Documentary 1:36:32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CBO-gZaPpo AATIP, wheel history via
It's Redacted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7gBnsGjfyM Corbell Fox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVoobRr-lQc Sen Martin Heinrich Intel Cmte TMZ
"I've never seen *the bodies in* Roswell." ... parse that response
VERY carefully

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6_gANuWD_k Lt. Graves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRD9vxArq64 Chris Mellon Black
Projects on Coast to Coast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8k8Iqx3wA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KChGKhJ4Ro Halt
https://www.facebook.com/HISTORY/videos/2980428978664655/
https://www.mufon.com/mantell-case---1948.html


https://youtu.be/JDuqZbjxB_E Canada Hearings Hon Paul Hellyer multiple
species MIC Bilderberg Cartels Shadow Control Gov
https://youtu.be/MNSYSa5-yds Canada Citizen Hearings UFO Disclosure
https://i.redd.it/8zzf35h68a071.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjlRmS6VgAEBokR.jpg
https://old.reddit.com/r/411ExperiencedReaders/comments/ebi0fi/ufo_india_1958_four_entities_emerged_two_boys_who/fb4wgwb

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/blog/what-we-know-and-what-we-believe-are-not-always-the-same-thing-heres-how-our-perception-of-fact-influences-our-worldview

https://www.nicap.org/twining_letter.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_A._Carlson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjlzeYiGLzc Pascagoula

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUlVFzl_BJs Dimensions

https://www.history.com/news/ufos-near-nuclear-facilities-uss-roosevelt-rendlesham
https://www.history.com/shows/unidentified-inside-americas-ufo-investigation
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-green-fireballs-nuclear-facilities-new-mexico
https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/28/us/fbi-flying-saucers-memo/index.html
https://www.history.com/news/live-from-nevada-its-an-a-bomb-test
https://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27/ufos-showed-interest-in-nukes-ex-air-force-personnel-say/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/05/10/how-the-pentagon-started-taking-ufos-seriously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srtrRbt77AE Ultras

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGU2m8gpceI Gravity control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NH01GSOhwk Jess Fritch MUFON Physics
via Cynthia Siegel UFOConnection.net, Thomas Townsend Brown Sub
Quantum Kinetics Electrogravitics S-13 S-30 Sightings BRILLIANT
PEBBLES TR-3B Black Manta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXRa-S0xCxI Jess Fritch and Thomas
Townsend Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zYlQeZWhu4 Jess Fritch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ump5pUo7WhE Jess Fritch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y10R8Fs3o0 Jess Fritch
https://vimeo.com/186171699 UFOConnection.net Betty Hill

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/245425484\_Biefeld-Brown\_Effect\_Misinterpretation\_of\_Corona\_Wind\_Phenomena
https://omega-point.medium.com/the-trouble-with-tic-tac-technology-46dee4c158ee

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0054/4525586.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Panel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsHlFeC5vic
https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1960/02/28/119097456.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/10/14/archives/ufo-files-the-untold-story.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAQVlVw-vT4
https://medium.com/predict/eugene-podkletnovs-impulse-gravity-generator-8749bbdc8378

https://www.jacquesvallee.net/research/
https://archive.org/details/confrontationssc00vall_0

https://dreamlandresort.com/

"The nobles with their flying starships"

"
Physicists who studied UFO motion determined that UFOs don't move in
the sense that we know it. They manipulate spacetime, as defined by
Einstein's general relativity. General relativity shows that space is
compressible and stretchable, given enough energy / momentum applied
to it. Physicists theorize that UFOs leverage the distortability of
space - by squeezing the space together between their initial position
and the target position where they want to move. After they distort
space so that the distance between their initial and target positions
is compressed into a Much Shorter Distance they then propel themselves
to the target. One UFO - reported by a Navy fighter jet pilot and seen
in a Pentagon released video - was initially at 35,000 feet above sea
level. The UFO could have compressed the space between its position
and the ocean into a distance of 1 foot, for example. Then the UFO
could easily move through a distance of 1 foot in 0.78 second- a
seemingly incredibly hugh speed, as reported by the pilot . So by
compressing the space between its 35,000 ft altitude and sea level
into a distance of 1 foot, the UFO accomplishes the task of traveling
at what appears to be an incredibly huge speed - by not really
traveling at that huge speed - 

Karl's [spam] (Re: *SPAM* Filter borked,)

2021-05-21 Thread Greg Newby
I updated the Subject line and broke the thread for the below:

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 07:28:12PM -0400, Karl wrote:
> Hey Greg,
> 
> > Personally, I don't think this is necessary. The nature of the cypherpunks
> > list is that people offer their thoughts, knowledge, links, criticism, etc.
> > Your contributions are generally on-topic for the list, so I don't think
> > there's a reason to downplay yourself.
> 
> Are you receiving what I'm writing?

Yes.

> What do you think of this?
> > [spam][spam] i tied myself to a table leg again and i want to talk about 
> > how boss's striatum
> > wire just feels _so_ _great!_  be scared and aggressive around people 
> > different from you!
> > if i sell you some spam, will you let me buy some of yours? [spam][spam]

I think it was off the general list topics. As in, not very related to the 
cryptoanarchist topics we're allegedly here for.

However, I didn't think it was spam. Maybe that's just me: SPAM is more or less 
equivalent, in my mind, to unsolicited commercial email (UCE). We barely get 
any of that on the cypherpunks list.

BTW, the old archives at https://lists.cpunks.org are filled with UCE. 

> Compared to this?
> > Hey does anybody have any tips on learning rust on an airgapped machine?  
> > Cargo just
> > keep frustrating me so much.  Is there a crate mirror anywhere?  If I made 
> > one, would
> > anybody else use it?

I found the discussion about whether rusted iron filings are magnetic to be 
completely within bounds for the cypherpunks list. Again, that's just my 
opinion.

> >>If you are truly posting something that is off-topic, then an "[offtopic]"
> >Iindicator or similar might be a good way to indicate that.
> 
> I can maybe switch to thatt change what I was expressing but my input dialog box is moving my
> cursor all around and it is very hard to navigate, so sending as is.
> sorry about this.[spam]> honestly I was "trained" to disrupt
> communities like this and I want to give people a clear way to protect
> themselves from that disruption a little., when I can figure it out.
> at all.

Without trying to speak for anyone but myself: Do as you please with the 
subject headings. I was merely suggesting that the [spam] tag probably isn't 
needed, in my view.

Trying to disrupt cypherpunks is sort of a cottage industry around here. When 
disruption is the norm, it makes disruption tougher to do!
  Greg
  


[fiction] Writing an Operating System Before Breakfast

2021-05-21 Thread Karl
Obviously this is not intended for anyone who take offense at it; it's not
about you; it is just a persistent experience.

A random bully joined a computer mailing list full of people who could
write an operating system before breakfast.

"Hi peeps!  It is so cool that you can write an entire operating system
before breakfast!  How do you keep all those system details in your heads?
Your minds must be so huge!"

 "Uhh.. What's an operating system?  I do a little exercise before
breakfast."

"... this is the list of people who write operating systems before
breakfast, isn't it?"

 "Yes, definitely, that's us!"

 "So, do you write an operating system before breakfast?"

 "Sometimes.  On my good days.  All the time, really."

 "Great.  I have some trouble with my operating system.  Do you know what a
kernel panic is?"

 "Sounds like when you need to buy more precut corn?"

 "No ... a kernel panic is an operating system thing!  You like operating
systems, right?"

 "I love to write them before breakfast.  I have a notebook for it and
everything."

 "Okay, so, computers are made of assembly language and posix signals."

"Foreign languages and secret messages?"

 "Something like that.  _assembly_ language and _posix_ signals."

 "Assembly and posix."

 "Yes!  Now, say that more, please."

 "I was speaking assembly language before breakfast but didn't write my
posix signals well enough."

 "Great!  You've got it!  I'm happy to be part of your list."


Re: more email blocking/censorship.

2021-05-21 Thread Karl
Received no personal messages from you recently.

My spam folder is all real spam, which is strange, because cpunks is full
of messages with labels for me that say "this message was not sent to spam
because of a filter you set up" , implying my spam should be full of
non-cpunks real messages.

It even says that on messages from Greg.

To reach me reliably basically repeated contact via multiple channels is
needed.


Re: Karl's [spam] (Re: *SPAM* Filter borked,)

2021-05-21 Thread Karl
Hey Greg, I got your email.  Thanks for speaking to me.

On Thu, May 20, 2021, 10:30 PM Greg Newby  wrote:

> I updated the Subject line and broke the thread for the below:
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 07:28:12PM -0400, Karl wrote:
> > Hey Greg,
> >
> > > Personally, I don't think this is necessary. The nature of the
> cypherpunks
> > > list is that people offer their thoughts, knowledge, links, criticism,
> etc.
> > > Your contributions are generally on-topic for the list, so I don't
> think
> > > there's a reason to downplay yourself.
> >
> > Are you receiving what I'm writing?
>
> Yes.
>
> > What do you think of this?
> > > [spam][spam] i tied myself to a table leg again and i want to talk
> about how boss's striatum
> > > wire just feels _so_ _great!_  be scared and aggressive around people
> different from you!
> > > if i sell you some spam, will you let me buy some of yours?
> [spam][spam]
>
> I think it was off the general list topics. As in, not very related to the
> cryptoanarchist topics we're allegedly here for.
>
> However, I didn't think it was spam. Maybe that's just me: SPAM is more or
> less equivalent, in my mind, to unsolicited commercial email (UCE). We
> barely get any of that on the cypherpunks list.
>

These are often things I don't want to say, or are said when I do not want
to say them.  From brainwashing.  [spam] helps me have ease by helping me
feel better spamming the list.

And if people filter around [spam] instead of around me, they might hear me
when I have something important to say, if I can learn to differentiate
well again.

Regarding UCE, commercial email is not only about selling products.
Hopefully that's clear to a community like this?  Being a paid troll is a
huge thing now.

BTW, the old archives at https://lists.cpunks.org are filled with UCE.
>
> > Compared to this?
> > > Hey does anybody have any tips on learning rust on an airgapped
> machine?  Cargo just
> > > keep frustrating me so much.  Is there a crate mirror anywhere?  If I
> made one, would
> > > anybody else use it?
>
> I found the discussion about whether rusted iron filings are magnetic to
> be completely within bounds for the cypherpunks list. Again, that's just my
> opinion.
>

Rust is a newer systems programming language, at a glance to me it looks
like it is trying to be secure.

 >>If you are truly posting something that is off-topic, then an
"[offtopic]"

> > >Iindicator or similar might be a good way to indicate that.
> >
> > I can maybe switch to thatt > change what I was expressing but my input dialog box is moving my
> > cursor all around and it is very hard to navigate, so sending as is.
> > sorry about this.[spam]> honestly I was "trained" to disrupt
> > communities like this and I want to give people a clear way to protect
> > themselves from that disruption a little., when I can figure it out.
> > at all.
>
> Without trying to speak for anyone but myself: Do as you please with the
> subject headings. I was merely suggesting that the [spam] tag probably
> isn't needed, in my view.
>
> Trying to disrupt cypherpunks is sort of a cottage industry around here.
> When disruption is the norm, it makes disruption tougher to do!
>   Greg
>

Or easier but yeah ...

Uhh ...

I have severe problems preserving and accessing information.  That might be
why a lot of [spam] ends up here.  I need a way to store feelings without
losing them, somewhere.

>