Re: 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
On 12/31/2019 04:42 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 16:12:36 -0700 > Mirimir wrote: > >> On 12/31/2019 02:15 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote: >>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 16:02:05 -0500 >>> John Young wrote: >>> Isn't this report an obvious deception operation? Adjunct to Snowden's dump among others. >>> >>> well, it tells you how total global surveillance works against the >>> masses. Of course it doesn't tell you how govcorp mafias deal with their >>> own system. >>> >>> Also, given total surveillance, the claim that human shit spies are >>> obsolete isn't too far fetched... >> >> I find it vastly amusing. > > > you think james bond isn't retiring yet, or? Well, if James Bond actually did have multiple bodies, maybe not. I wouldn't mind a body transplant, now that I think of it.
Re: 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
On 12/31/19 10:06 AM, coderman wrote: > https://news.yahoo.com/shattered-inside-the-secret-battle-to-save-americas-undercover-spies-in-the-digital-age-100029026.html > 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age > Jenna McLaughlin and Zach Dorfman > Yahoo News•December 30, 2019 > > When hackers began slipping into computer systems at the Office of Personnel Management in the spring of 2014, no one inside that federal agency could have predicted the potential scale and magnitude of the damage. Over the next six months, those hackers — later identified as working for the Chinese government — stole data on nearly 22 million former and current American civil servants, including intelligence officials. WTF would I want to 'save' them? Fuck "Merica's spies", REALLY. Rr signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
On 12/31/2019 02:15 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 16:02:05 -0500 > John Young wrote: > >> Isn't this report an obvious deception operation? Adjunct to >> Snowden's dump among others. > > well, it tells you how total global surveillance works against the > masses. Of course it doesn't tell you how govcorp mafias deal with their own > system. > > Also, given total surveillance, the claim that human shit spies are > obsolete isn't too far fetched... I find it vastly amusing.
Re: 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
Isn't this report an obvious deception operation? Adjunct to Snowden's dump among others.
Re: 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
Whatever your mailer, or you, and others are doing often, is breaking threads... instead of doing proper threading with in-reply-to, references, etc.
Re: 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust Punch card tabulation machines caused the holocaust. We don't even have accurate numbers on Nazi loot and murders, I think if the tabulation machines were running things, we'd have precise figures. Has any technology ever made anything more efficient? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Productivity_paradox
Re: 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
> The data breach And the outcome of data... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust https://ibmandtheholocaust.com/ infohash:20820F55D884C945154136689E436990107DD1E9
Re: 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
To be more serious, that article just rehashes what was said before. People keep saying it, and somehow... nothing happens. Isn't espionage supposed to be some kind of shell game, not a numbers racket? https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/the-top-secret-nunes-memo-illustrates-abuse-of-our-intelligence-classification-system.html Robin Raphel—a former U.S. ambassador to Pakistan—had her career destroyed because the FBI suspected she was spilling secrets to the Pakistanis. One of the claims made against her was that she was speaking with Pakistani officials about speculation that there may be a coup, information that the intelligence community deemed classified. But speculation of a coup was prevalent in the Pakistani media and within cross-government channels; all Raphel was doing was discussing the issues of the day with her foreign counterparts. Classification can also be abused to avoid oversight and wield power over Congress. If you are a senator, unless you work on the Intelligence Committee, are part of the leadership, or are the chair or ranking member of the Foreign Relations or Armed Services committees, your staff does not have the highest level of clearance. Many executive branch briefings to members of Congress are at this highest classification level, partially to protect information but also to keep staff out. So, even if a member gains access to key information that should be further investigated, she cannot share it with anyone who works for her, making it nearly impossible to follow up and exercise proper oversight. This paucity of clearances stands in sharp contrast to the executive branch, where thousands of people hold the highest level of clearance and have easy access to facilities and computers that enable their review of classified materials, and where millions of dollars are invested annually in protecting and expanding these resources. On Capitol Hill, there are few such facilities where classified information can be discussed or worked on. And yet, for all these security measures, major breaches via Edward Snowden, Russian spying, or a Chinese heist of thousands of personnel records continue.
Re: 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
"We aren't incompetent, we're just being ironic!" "We aren't corrupt, we're just being ironic!" "We aren't satanists, we're just being ironic!" *several years later* As it turns out... Someone is going to claim that Hunter Biden was pretending to be peddling influence to US policies, but that doesn't actually happen, in order to ingratiate with foreign dictators and divert bribes to the black budget.
'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age
https://news.yahoo.com/shattered-inside-the-secret-battle-to-save-americas-undercover-spies-in-the-digital-age-100029026.html 'Shattered': Inside the secret battle to save America's undercover spies in the digital age [Jenna McLaughlin and Zach Dorfman](https://www.yahoo.com/author/jenna-mclaughlin-and-zach-dorfman) [Yahoo News](https://news.yahoo.com/)•December 30, 2019 When hackers began slipping into computer systems at the Office of Personnel Management in the spring of 2014, no one inside that federal agency could have predicted the potential scale and magnitude of the damage. Over the next six months, those hackers — later identified as working for the Chinese government — stole data on nearly 22 million former and current American civil servants, including intelligence officials. The data breach, which included fingerprints, personnel records and security clearance background information, shook the intelligence community to its core. Among the hacked information’s other uses, Beijing had acquired a potential way to identify large numbers of undercover spies working for the U.S. government. The fallout from the hack was intense, with the CIA [reportedly pulling its officers out of China](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-pulled-officers-from-beijing-after-breach-of-federal-personnel-records/2015/09/29/1f78943c-66d1-11e5-9ef3-fde182507eac_story.html). (The director of national intelligence [later denied](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-intelligence-head-cia-did-not-pull-officers-from-beijing-after-opm-hack/2015/11/02/8631aa4e-81a5-11e5-a7ca-6ab6ec20f839_story.html) this withdrawal.) Personal data was being weaponized like never before. In one previously unreported incident, around the time of the OPM hack, senior intelligence officials realized that the Kremlin was quickly able to identify new CIA officers in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow — likely based on the differences in pay between diplomats, details on past service in “hardship” posts, speedy promotions and other digital clues, say four former intelligence officials. Those clues, they surmised, could have come from access to the OPM data, possibly shared by the Chinese, or some other way, say former officials. [Illustration: Shonagh Rae for Yahoo News]Illustration: Shonagh Rae for Yahoo News The OPM hack was a watershed moment, ushering in an era when big data and other digital tools may render methods of traditional human intelligence gathering extinct, say former officials. It is part of an evolution that poses one of the most significant challenges to undercover intelligence work in at least a half century — and probably much longer. The familiar trope of Jason Bourne movies and John le Carré novels where spies open secret safes filled with false passports and interchangeable identities is already a relic, say former officials — swept away by technological changes so profound that they're forcing the CIA to reconsider everything from how and where it recruits officers to where it trains potential agency personnel. Instead, the spread of new tools like facial recognition at border crossings and airports and widespread internet-connected surveillance cameras in major cities is wiping away in a matter of years carefully honed tradecraft that took intelligence experts decades to perfect. Though U.S. technical capabilities can collect reams of data, human intelligence remains critical. In 2016, for example, a high-level Russian asset recruited by the CIA confirmed that Russian President Vladimir Putin [had personally ordered plans](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/us/politics/cia-informant-russia.html) to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. [After fleeing to the United States](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html), that same covert source was forced to relocate because of his digital trail. Without the ability to send undercover intelligence officers overseas to recruit or meet sources face to face, this type of intelligence might all but disappear, creating a blind spot for U.S. policymakers. During a summit of Western intelligence agencies in early 2019, officials wrestled with the challenges of protecting their employees’ identities in the digital age, concluding that there was no silver bullet. “We still haven’t figured out this problem,” says a Western intelligence chief who attended the meeting. Such conversations have left intelligence leaders weighing an uncomfortable question: Is spying as we know it over? Some have tried to address this crisis. Within the last decade, the CIA assembled a diverse group of intelligence personnel to create the Station of the Future — an ambitious Silicon Valley-style startup costing millions and nestled within a diplomatic facility in Latin America where a team of top spies tried to imagine, build and test innovative tools and
