Re: America is a nation of immigrants
On January 3, 2020 6:39:53 PM UTC, Mirimir wrote: >On 01/03/2020 09:13 AM, Razer wrote: >> You're walking on Native land shit-for-brains. > >That's true enough. In the US, most of them died, long ago. But in >Mexico and some parts of Central and South America, they're still >around. I've visited many places in the mountains of Mexico where many >speak little Spanish. Including Huautla de Jiménez ;) > >However, it's also true that multiple groups arrived from Asia in >multiple waves, over perhaps 40 kyr or more. And there are some >examples >where later arrivals killed or displaced earlier ones. > >Which is pretty much what's happened everywhere, for millions of years. > Or however many hundred K years modern human has been around. Except, of course, modern humans wiping each other out is just another expression of Darwinism (with modern tech having really twisted the meaning of "natural selection") and that shit has been going on forever. >Still, the Native Americans are very unusual. In that there were more >or >less stable cultures throughout the Americas for maybe 10-20 kyr. Until >the fucking Europeans arrived, anyway. _1491_ and _1492_ are sobering. One nice thing that bit the Europeans - syphilis. The (insert nationality here) disease was one of the few things endemic to the Americas, the one germ that seemed to at least cause some discomfort as it spread through the old world shortly after Colombo's first return ships. Hardly fair payback though signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: America is a nation of immigrants
On 01/03/2020 09:13 AM, Razer wrote: > You're walking on Native land shit-for-brains. That's true enough. In the US, most of them died, long ago. But in Mexico and some parts of Central and South America, they're still around. I've visited many places in the mountains of Mexico where many speak little Spanish. Including Huautla de Jiménez ;) However, it's also true that multiple groups arrived from Asia in multiple waves, over perhaps 40 kyr or more. And there are some examples where later arrivals killed or displaced earlier ones. Which is pretty much what's happened everywhere, for millions of years. Still, the Native Americans are very unusual. In that there were more or less stable cultures throughout the Americas for maybe 10-20 kyr. Until the fucking Europeans arrived, anyway. _1491_ and _1492_ are sobering.
Re: America is a nation of immigrants
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Re: America is a nation of immigrants
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 07:51:27AM +, Ryan Carboni wrote: > America is a nation of immigrants, there are two common reasons for > people to immigrate to America. > > The first reason is when people who have the unfortunate problem of > speaking their mind had to leave for one reason or another. > > The second reason are those who believe America is the land of > opportunity (which is only valid if you were born in a medieval dirt > hovel and think anything is better than that). > > There is only government for people like that, and it certainly > doesn't involve a rotating clique of genitalia evaluated to be > exquisite. The past fifty years revealed what options are available, > and they are all terrible. The current leaders don't care that events > escalated to any point, they don't care about any desired aims, and > they don't care about anything but protecting their positions, even if > the chance that they would be removed will remain at zero. Prior to 1969 (Australia, but similar for USA), we had the White Australia policy. We accepted folks of "European heritage". Ultimately, the Italians, Greeks etc, integrated with Australia - which makes sense as we have a shared cultural heritage, and for better or worse, we had a shared "religious cultural umbrella", Christianity. Christian nations become wealthy. Islamic nations become wealthy by relationship with Western nations, although some Islamic scholars will dispute this. Certain factions of Islam, in the present era, foster extremist idiology and behaviour. Islam may be many things, but many, perhaps most (yes, not all) of the Muslim people "our" governments have allowed to immigrate, fail to integrate into our Western "Christian umbrella" nations/ society. So there are certainly other reasons people immigrate, for example with the Chinese, to acquire New Land (the title of a Western Australian 'Chinese' magazine), and to custodian that New Land for the motherland - China. And there are many islamists who act under direct religious direction to "culturally enrich" our nation by ways of various (to us) criminal actions, but to them is religious imperative, as well as actions such as breeding themselves into numeric dominance. Such matters are widely "publicly" discussed by Imams and others on e.g. YouTube. We can only be naieve to ignore these other "non Christian" reasons for which many "immigrate" into the West for. There are also some who actually do flee civil, or rather mostly CIA instigated "Western" regime change operations otherwise known as civil, war. It is far too easy to accept the forever bracketted legacy stream media narratives and to project our fundamentally Christian values (for the average White Western individual, whether he realises this or not), on --all-- so called "immigrants" allegedly merely "seeking a better life", otherwise known as bullshit in many cases.
America is a nation of immigrants
America is a nation of immigrants, there are two common reasons for people to immigrate to America. The first reason is when people who have the unfortunate problem of speaking their mind had to leave for one reason or another. The second reason are those who believe America is the land of opportunity (which is only valid if you were born in a medieval dirt hovel and think anything is better than that). There is only government for people like that, and it certainly doesn't involve a rotating clique of genitalia evaluated to be exquisite. The past fifty years revealed what options are available, and they are all terrible. The current leaders don't care that events escalated to any point, they don't care about any desired aims, and they don't care about anything but protecting their positions, even if the chance that they would be removed will remain at zero.
