Re: CNBC: SpaceX prices Starlink satellite internet service at $99 per month, according to e-mail

2020-10-29 Thread jamesd
On 2020-10-29 13:44, grarpamp wrote:
> On 10/28/20, jim bell  wrote:
>> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/27/spacex-starlink-service-priced-at-99-a-month-public-beta-test-begins.html
> 
> Good for remote / mobile locations, but
> costs much more than 4G / 5G tether.

Musk is not aiming at people in the cities, and probably will not aim at
them until he get forty thousand satellites up.

His initial target is underserved locations, and with only eight hundred
satellites up, cities would overwhelm his capability.

Eight hundred is the bare minimum needed to provide rural service in
northerly areas.

He is hoping to launch another fifteen hundred satellites in the next
year, which should suffice for world wide service, but only in thinly
populated regions, the countryside, the exurbs, and small towns - quite
small towns.

He does not intend to provide substantial service to urban centers ever.
 Fiber and 4G makes more sense in dense areas.  In city centers,
Starlink will be a high priced premium service for people who want short
ping times to the other side of the earth.

But, once he gets enough satellites up, it is going to make economic
sense to put modest sized server clusters out in the middle of nowhere,
and going to be easier to have a multiple server cluster around the
world that acts like a single large server cluster from the point of
view of its customers.



Re: CNBC: SpaceX prices Starlink satellite internet service at $99 per month, according to e-mail

2020-10-28 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:44:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> On 10/28/20, jim bell  wrote:
> > https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/27/spacex-starlink-service-priced-at-99-a-month-public-beta-test-begins.html
> 
> Good for remote / mobile locations, but
> costs much more than 4G / 5G tether.
> 
> Cypherpunks should still trench out their own
> p2p 1Gbit symmetric fiber with their communities
> for under $50.

Ack.

The cheapest way to achieve this is volunteer groups - you a techy or two, 
DialBeforeYouDig so you don't trench some expensive existing line cutting 
mistakes (really, keep it super clean!), and if your town, or your town and a 
few other towns come together, it becomes cheaper to buy the trenching/ boring 
equipment rather than hire.

When people work together, magic happens.  Matthew 18 "When two or three gather 
... in my name" - find others who will live that higher intention with you, the 
"higher" intention to actually do something mostly selflessly - just think, 
most of the work trenching, polishing fibre cable ends, etc, will benefit 
others, not you - so you can only achieve this WITH that higher intention.

Good luck,


Re: CNBC: SpaceX prices Starlink satellite internet service at $99 per month, according to e-mail

2020-10-28 Thread grarpamp
On 10/28/20, jim bell  wrote:
> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/27/spacex-starlink-service-priced-at-99-a-month-public-beta-test-begins.html

Good for remote / mobile locations, but
costs much more than 4G / 5G tether.

Cypherpunks should still trench out their own
p2p 1Gbit symmetric fiber with their communities
for under $50.


CNBC: SpaceX prices Starlink satellite internet service at $99 per month, according to e-mail

2020-10-28 Thread jim bell
CNBC: SpaceX prices Starlink satellite internet service at $99 per month, 
according to e-mail.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/27/spacex-starlink-service-priced-at-99-a-month-public-beta-test-begins.html