Re: Prosecution of Assange will mark a point of no return, a modern Krystalnacht - Re: Ecuador Handing Over Assange To UK
On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 06:40:17PM +, jim bell wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 8, 2018, 5:54:00 AM PDT, Zenaan Harkness
> wrote:
>
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> "Who Will Dare Tell The Truth About Government?"
> Authored by Robert Gore via Straight Line Logic,
> https://straightlinelogic.com/2018/08/07/americas-kristallnacht/
> https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-07/who-will-dare-tell-truth-about-government
>
>
> > If the US government prosecutes Julian Assange and WikiLeaks,
> it will mark a point of no return.
>
>
> For a few years, I've been mystified about how any American
> authority could prosecute Julian Assange, and certainly not for his
> actions in regard to the 2016 elections.
That's where you're wrong kiddo! Just a few obvious O M G
"government" tactics:
National security.
The illegality of retroactive laws never stopped us from
retroactively applying new laws (notwithstanding the illegality of
such laws for other prima facie reasons).
Anti-terror.
Here in Australia we already have the most horrific "anti-terror"
(anti freedoms) laws you could imagine Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao coming
up with to "ensure the success of the regime" (did I say regime? I
meant revolution. Sorry, did I say revolution? I meant Democracy...
Ahhh there, that's feeling better already.)
> It is generally figured
> by the MSM that Assange accepted various emails and published them,
> but it isn't clear that those emails (or, anyway, most of those
> emails) came from Russian sources. And there is already a
> precendent ("Pentagon Papers") that there can be no prior restraint
> for such publication, even if the publisher knew that the
> information was illegally taken from a government source.
>
> And, due to 'discovery' rules, the American government would have
> to reveal a great deal about what they knew,
Your trust in the application of the fule of law is astounding.
Good luck,
> and how they knew it.
> Just about all downside, very little upside.
>
> Jim Bell
Re: Prosecution of Assange will mark a point of no return, a modern Krystalnacht - Re: Ecuador Handing Over Assange To UK
On Wednesday, August 8, 2018, 5:54:00 AM PDT, Zenaan Harkness
wrote:
"Who Will Dare Tell The Truth About Government?"
Authored by Robert Gore via Straight Line Logic,
https://straightlinelogic.com/2018/08/07/americas-kristallnacht/
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-07/who-will-dare-tell-truth-about-government
> If the US government prosecutes Julian Assange and WikiLeaks,
it will mark a point of no return.
For a few years, I've been mystified about how any American authority could
prosecute Julian Assange, and certainly not for his actions in regard to the
2016 elections. It is generally figured by the MSM that Assange accepted
various emails and published them, but it isn't clear that those emails (or,
anyway, most of those emails) came from Russian sources. And there is already
a precendent ("Pentagon Papers") that there can be no prior restraint for such
publication, even if the publisher knew that the information was illegally
taken from a government source.
And, due to 'discovery' rules, the American government would have to reveal a
great deal about what they knew, and how they knew it. Just about all
downside, very little upside.
Jim Bell
Prosecution of Assange will mark a point of no return, a modern Krystalnacht - Re: Ecuador Handing Over Assange To UK
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 03:16:06PM -0400, John Newman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 05:45:00PM -0300, juan wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 12:40:01 +1000 > > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > > > > Assange had been publishing information/data very damaging to the > > > deep state, for years. > > > > > > He has been stopped this year. > > > > > > thanks to supreme scum trump, whom assange arguably helped getting > > elected. How do you explain that? > > > Yeah, didn't he say he "loooved wikileaks" - never believe anything > a "politician" says, always expect to get fucked. Zerowedgie chimes in, or rather someone apparently named "Robert Gore": "Who Will Dare Tell The Truth About Government?" Authored by Robert Gore via Straight Line Logic, https://straightlinelogic.com/2018/08/07/americas-kristallnacht/ https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-07/who-will-dare-tell-truth-about-government If the US government prosecutes Julian Assange and WikiLeaks, it will mark a point of no return. “ The First Amendment Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; of the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. ” We’ll never know what “average” Germans thought on November 11, 1938, the day after Kristallnacht. Perhaps a few recognized it for what it was: a turning point, an acceleration of Germany’s descent into hell. America’s Crystal Night looms, and if it occurs, only a few will recognize it for what it is. The fate of Julian Assange is the fate of one man, but it is also the fate of one of our most important freedoms. There won’t be shattered plate glass from vandalized businesses littering the streets, synagogues smashed, graves unearthed, or people herded onto trains. But his prosecution by the US government would destroy an inestimable value, one enshrined in the First Amendment, for which generations of Americans have fought and died: the right of the people and its press to inform the people and to hold their government to account. …
Re: Ecuador Handing Over Assange To UK
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 05:45:00PM -0300, juan wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 12:40:01 +1000 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > Assange had been publishing information/data very damaging to the > > deep state, for years. > > > > He has been stopped this year. > > > thanks to supreme scum trump, whom assange arguably helped getting > elected. How do you explain that? Yeah, didn't he say he "loooved wikileaks" - never believe anything a "politician" says, always expect to get fucked. -- GPG fingerprint: 17FD 615A D20D AFE8 B3E4 C9D2 E324 20BE D47A 78C7 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Ecuador Handing Over Assange To UK
> Strongly doubt this. Possibly unless we are owned by aliens who teach us > humanity the hard way. That would be fine, let's rumble ;) Meanwhile, many other parallel universe's are spooling up fast in support of Julian... https://unity4j.com/discord https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deyMmgNldm8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdzBFeWXSxY https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJxSAxlxlL9KHp7Dp9Nlu5A/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCteWVe7EelMkiU_9XjppUFQ/videos https://wikileaks.org/10years/timeline.html https://twitter.com/Suzi3D https://twitter.com/Suzi3D/status/1021317001724276736 https://twitter.com/FlickRubicon/status/1021009604333875200 https://twitter.com/ElizabethleaVos https://twitter.com/KimDotcom https://www.telesurtv.net/news/foro-sao-paulo-ecuador-derechos-humanos-julian-assange-20180717-0040.html https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/07/breaking-possible-hand-over-of-julian-assange-to-the-uk-may-be-imminent/ http://wiseupaction.info/2018/06/06/new-postcard-campaign-in-support-of-wikileaks-julian-assange/ https://soundcloud.com/user-553605283 https://soundcloud.com/jamesgetsit https://twitter.com/AssangeMrs https://old.reddit.com/r/Unity4J/ https://steemit.com/trending/unity4j https://www.facebook.com/Unity4J https://www.iamwikileaks.org/ https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1021024563872739328 https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/1021118830138003458 https://twitter.com/WikiLeaks https://twitter.com/hashtag/FreeAssange https://twitter.com/JulianAssange https://twitter.com/WLArtForce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxbDkNmyD4 https://soundcloud.com/jamesgetsit/kill-the-messenger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMAjDHg3lY4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsG7udT8Anc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYSizeQqJZY https://soundcloud.com/jamesgetsit/break-lights
Re: Ecuador Handing Over Assange To UK
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 12:40:01 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Assange had been publishing information/data very damaging to the > deep state, for years. > > He has been stopped this year. thanks to supreme scum trump, whom assange arguably helped getting elected. How do you explain that?
Re: Ecuador Handing Over Assange To UK
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 02:56:31AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > Hopefully the day will soon come when all will have > those freedoms. Strongly doubt this. Possibly unless we are owned by aliens who teach us humanity the hard way. -- hoping for the best but expecting the worst. are you gonna drop the bomb or not
Re: Ecuador Handing Over Assange To UK
> And so all this negativity gets dumped on us Of course they do that. But curiously they put pictures most haven't seen. Pictures can draw sympathetic effects from otherwise would be believers of their fake news. Here, pictures of a human being, Assange... one who must be supported and allowed to walk the earth freely, speaking freely, about whatever he wishes. Hopefully the day will soon come when all will have those freedoms.
Ecuador Handing Over Assange To UK
https://theintercept.com/2018/07/21/ecuador-will-imminently-withdraw-asylum-for-julian-assange-and-hand-him-over-to-the-uk-what-comes-next/ https://www.rt.com/news/433783-wikileaks-assange-ecuador-uk/ https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/989122/julian-assange-wikileaks-ecuador-embassy-london-Lenin-Moreno https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ecuador-in-talks-to-evict-assange-its-stone-in-the-shoe-j8wgr9w98 "A source close to the Ecuadorian Foreign Ministry and the President's office, unauthorized to speak publicly, has confirmed to the Intercept that Moreno is close to finalizing, if he has not already finalized, an agreement to hand over Assange to the UK within the next several weeks. The withdrawal of asylum and physical ejection of Assange could come as early as this week." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17582652 https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/07/21/0347241/ecuador-will-be-handing-assange-over-to-uk-authorities-in-coming-weeks-or-days-rt https://twitter.com/julianassange https://twitter.com/wikileaks https://www.justice4assange.com/ http://unity4j.com/ https://consortiumnews.com/2018/07/19/inside-wikileaks-working-with-the-publisher-that-changed-the-world/ Alt info http://julianpaulassange.com/
