On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 06:22:07 PM PST, Greg Newby
wrote:
>1. MISSING MESSAGES THIS WEEK
>Jim: I set your list options to select "ACK" and unselected "nodupes." The
>impact is that you should get an email acknowledgment whenever a message is
>accepted and (presumably) distributed and archived. The "nodupes" might have
>no impact, but it is supposed to quash multiple copies of messages when
>selected.
Yes, I noticed the change before I noticed your mention of it. Thank you.
>Because you sent multiple emails to the list today, I don't have an easy way
>to check whether there was some sort of problem (like a spam-type rejection)
>from one of them. If you are ever suspicious that something got blocked or
>didn't make it, AND can tell me the specific time, I can check the logs.
Okay, I hope that service doesn't become necessary, As I think I said today, I
don't recall a prior time (in the last few weeks, at least) where it appeared
that one of my postings to CP never eventually appeared or was unusually
delayed, although I admit that I don't typically pay close attention since the
system has usually been so reliable. I was alerted to recent talk on the list
which suggested some failures, and when I made a posting this morning that
apparently had not yet appeared 74 minutes later, and the list appeared
virtually dead, I concluded that my first attempt had been lost.
>As I have mentioned here before, the PGLAF.org server that runs
>lists.cpunks.org has graylisting and a few other anti-spam measures. But
>clearly most of your messages are being handled correctly.
Do you have any idea of what I might inadvertently do to a message that might
cause it to be rejected? I have the same message on my computer; I could
resend it, but I didn't and don't want to clutter the system with test-junk.
>Anyone else who wants to twiddle their list settings can visit
>https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks (and Jim can email me to
>revert what's above, if desired).
For a few days, I'm happy with the new setting. I wish these systems alerted
me (or themselves) to failures to accept data.
>2. MISSING MESSAGES FROM 1995
>As has already been written, the PGLAF server has only hosted the list since
>around August of 2016. Previously, Riad Wahby hosted the list. I first
>subscribed in the early 2000s. The archive copies I have at
https://www.petascale.org/cypherpunks/ came from a couple of other people.
My attempt to access the Archive of the CP list, about 4 days ago, was
approximately my first in many years. If I ever accessed it before, I don't
even recall why. 4 days ago, I think I just did a google-search for
'cypherpunk archive', and visited that site. I found a file which appeared to
be the correct one for 1995, accessed it (by my Chrome browser), and yet I
found virtually no instances of "jim bell", "jimb...@pacifier.com", "ap", or
"assassination politics". Initially, I sure wondered if I must have done
something wrong...
>For anyone looking at those copies, note that the mbox files have some
>problems (spam, and some messages with bad headers that can confuse or even
>crash email clients).
I am unaware if such a thing affected my initial viewing or my later viewings,
but since other people seem to be observing the same thing, I think we are all
confident that we are seeing the same problem.
>It is clear in these archives that the messages that Jim says do not exist, do
>not exist. There is no obvious evidence of redaction. For example, I wondered
>whether there would be responses to messages that Jim posted, but not the
>original messages. I didn't find any. Ditto for the messages from Bill Frezza.
Well, my current idea is that all messages:1. From me.2. To me.3. Containing
references about me. (yet numerous references to 'bell' remain, when that
refers to something other than 'jim bell'.4 containing references to "AP",
"assassination politics" are missing.5. Very rare instances of the text string
'ap', about 15, seem to exist, but those instances are ones in which the
meaning is (mostly) 'associated press'. I recall one reference to 'killer ap',
with only one 'p'. I think these instances must have been intentionally
retained.
I conclude that a very sophisticated tampering has been done, although perhaps
it wouldn't have been too difficult. If they had:
1. Erased all threads about AP.2. then Erased all emails from me or to me,
with a very small exceptions, or contained 'assassination politics, or 'jim
bell'.3. Perhaps hand-searched all emails containing 'ap' (or ' ap ') and
removed all those in which 'ap' referred to "assassination politics", or 'bell'
or 'jim', where I am a subject.
It was a thorough job, although anyone unaware of the events of 1995 would
probably not have noticed the omissions,. I have some ideas about why they
bothered to do this, but they clearly didn't expect to be able to remove the
