Re: Project Veritas: Social Media Stores Everything You Post Forever

2018-01-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness 
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:15:36AM +0200, Georgi Guninski wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 07:41:27PM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote:
> > "Prophets do not predict the future, they direct people to create
> > specific futures."
>
> "Sufficiently sophisticated trolling is indistinguishable from thought
> leadership" -- unknown

Great quotes! :D 

And yours Georgi, so good, it's even worth spelling your name
correctly for :)

Re: Project Veritas: Social Media Stores Everything You Post Forever

2018-01-19 Thread Georgi Guninski 
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 07:41:27PM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote:
> "Prophets do not predict the future, they direct people to create
> specific futures."
>
"Sufficiently sophisticated trolling is indistinguishable from thought
leadership" -- unknown

Re: Project Veritas: Social Media Stores Everything You Post Forever

2018-01-18 Thread Steve Kinney 
Postscript:

"Prophets do not predict the future, they direct people to create
specific futures."

- me




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Re: Project Veritas: Social Media Stores Everything You Post Forever

2018-01-18 Thread Steve Kinney 


On 01/18/2018 01:48 PM, John Newman wrote:
> 
> 
> On January 17, 2018 5:19:48 AM EST, grarpamp  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Georgi Guninski
>>  wrote:
>>> so title should read "social and anti social media...".
>>
>> Still too limited... from birth to death now,
>> unless you life a vagabond, you're fucked.
>>
>> 'Social Media' was just for the sheep.
> 
> We need some PKD scramble suits.. although it's really
> too late, so much shit already out there. 
> 
> Brunner wrote about something similar in the Shockwave Rider -
> Haflinger is constantly changing his persona (he hacks 
> new identities up through touch tone telephones - a very
> gifted phone phreak ;)

It's not every day that I see two of my very most favorite SF novels
mentioned side by side.  Like wow.

In addition to the tools mentioned above, we need a strategy to convert
them into social/political power.  Telepresence gives us the virtual
ability to jaunt, and we already defend our most sensitive assets from
intrusion by putting them inside elaborate mazes (firewalls, onion
routing, etc).  Mathematical Munitions™ built to tear big holes in the
networks could provide an equivalent of PyrE in a world completely
dependent on the networks.  So Bester's The Stars My Destination may
also provide very relevant metaphors.

:D




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Re: Project Veritas: Social Media Stores Everything You Post Forever

2018-01-18 Thread John Newman 


On January 17, 2018 5:19:48 AM EST, grarpamp  wrote:
>On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Georgi Guninski
> wrote:
>> so title should read "social and anti social media...".
>
>Still too limited... from birth to death now,
>unless you life a vagabond, you're fucked.
>
>'Social Media' was just for the sheep.

We need some PKD scramble suits.. although it's really
too late, so much shit already out there. 

Brunner wrote about something similar in the Shockwave Rider -
Haflinger is constantly changing his persona (he hacks 
new identities up through touch tone telephones - a very
gifted phone phreak ;)





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Re: Project Veritas: Social Media Stores Everything You Post Forever

2018-01-17 Thread grarpamp 
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Georgi Guninski  wrote:
> so title should read "social and anti social media...".

Still too limited... from birth to death now,
unless you life a vagabond, you're fucked.

'Social Media' was just for the sheep.

Re: Project Veritas: Social Media Stores Everything You Post Forever

2018-01-17 Thread Georgi Guninski 
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 01:53:02AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
> Don't be stupid, this applies to all users of all
> social networks, regardless of posted "policy".
> Warehouses full of data, all about mining and controlling... you.
>
I suspect it applies for this list too. In some sense the list is "anti
social", so title should read "social and anti social media...".