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screening or whose clothing appears suspicious or bulky are now subject to
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Microchip passport critics say ID theft possible
The Associated Press
The United States hasn't issued any microchip-equipped passports yet, but
as the Department of State tests different prototypes, the international
standards for the passports are under fire from privacy advocates who worry
the technology won't protect travelers from identity thieves.

 The American Civil Liberties union has raised alarms and even an executive
at one of the companies developing a prototype for the State Department
calls the international standards woefully inadequate.

 The international standards for "electronic" passports were set by the
U.N.-affiliated International Civil Aviation Organization, which has worked
on standards for machine-readable passports since 1968.

 On the latest passports, the agency has "taken a 'keep it simple'
approach, which, unfortunately, really disregards a basic privacy approach
and leaves out the basic security methods we would have expected to have
been incorporated for the security of the documents," said Neville
Pattinson, an executive at Axalto North America, which is working on a
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 As part of heightened security post-Sept. 11, all new U.S. passports
issued by the end of 2005 are expected to have a chip containing the
holders' name, birth date and issuing office, as well as a "biometric"
identifier - a photo of the holders' face. The photo is the international
standard for biometrics, but countries are free to add other biometrics,
such as fingerprints, for greater accuracy.

 Privacy advocates have complained about the security standards for the
passports, but Pattinson is the most prominent person involved in their
creation to express concern that they could become prey for identity
thieves if safeguards aren't standardized.

 A slide in a presentation he gives says, "Don't lose the public's
confidence at the get go." Another asks, "Who is up for a black eye?"

 The international passport standards call for "a very sophisticated smart
card device," that uses a chip and an antenna embedded in the passports'
covers, Pattinson said.

 Unlike cheaper and dumber RFID tags, the passport chips would be
microprocessors that could send one piece of information at a time in
answer to queries from a machine reader. They could also be equipped with
multiple layers of encryption for security.

 The international standards spell out ways the passports could incorporate
more protection from identity thieves, but they make those methods optional.

 Under the standards, information on the chip could be picked up by someone
who wires a briefcase with a reader, then swings it within inches of a
passports, Pattinson said. Over a greater distance, an interloper could
eavesdrop on border control devices reading the passports, he said.

 "There's no security built into it," said Barry Steinhardt, director of
the technology and liberty program, at the American Civil Liberties Union.
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travel internationally."

 One rudimentary way to protect electronic passports from identity thieves
is to wrap them in tinfoil, which blocks radio waves. A single size Doritos
bag would do the trick. Protecting border control agents' readers with a
metal shield would protect against eavesdropping.

 The International Civil Aviation Organization and State Department say
they're looking at more organized methods.

 The privacy issues "have come up and they are being looked at," said Denis
Schagnon, a spokesman for ICAO. "This is a process that is being
implemented over the next few years, it is not something that happens
overnight." One way to fight identity theft is already in the standards, he
said: The passports will have built-in encrypted authentication to let
electronic readers know they are original documents, not forgeries.

 The international standard "is obviously a baseline," said Angela Aggeler,
spokesperson for the bureau of consular affairs at the State Department.
"This is something we continue to develop and work on. (Privacy) is the
thing that is driving a lot of our considerations. Personal privacy issues
are of paramount consideration."

 Other countries are also making the switch to microchipped, biometric
passports, at U.S. request. Under the Patriot Act, visitors from 27
countries whose citizens don't need visas to visit the United States will
need electronic passports, too.

 The United States originally asked that visitors from those countries have
the electronic passports by this October. President Bush in August gave the
countries an extra year to issue them; they will be required by next
October.

 In testimony before a House committee, Secretary of State Colin Powell
said that other countries were finding the switch "daunting," as was the
United States.

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"F*ck the South"

[Tyler Durden]

A hilarious rant. You can hear this guy's anger ain't just for show, too--> 
www.fuckthesouth.com

-TD
Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to 
leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of 
our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are 
states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? 
How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic 
America. Really?

Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you 
keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they 
meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault 
weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first 
half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt 
sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. 
Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the 
fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

No, No. Get the fuck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and 
fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves 
and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those 
fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. And 
it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their fucking Subarus together 
and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this shit, 
so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately 
"Oh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" dickheads. Fuck off.

Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking arrogant? 
What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. 
Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I 
wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't paying for your fucking bridges, 
bitch.

All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to 
you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority 
electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time 
Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, 
but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, 
it’s a shithole," we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice.

The next dickwad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is 
gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal 
fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s 
right, motherfucker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that 
receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue 
states. It’s not your money, assholes, it’s fucking our money. What was that 
Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this 
for self reliance: buy your own fucking stop signs, assholes.

Let’s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern 
values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you 
fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you 
think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can 
you guess? It’s fucking Massachusetts, the fucking center of the gay 
marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the 
neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in 
the fucking nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of 
the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are 
in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest 
divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass 
we're-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt 
is doing its fucking part.

But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? 
Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. 
Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? 
Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. 
Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and 
then you're fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable 
formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don't talk about religion as much as 
you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you 
self-righteous assholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of 
the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal 
Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up 
here in the North, assholes.

Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, 
federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, 
hypocritical bullshi

Re: Gov't Orders Air Passenger Data for Test

[Todd Ellner]

>The whole exercise ignores the question of whether the Executive Branch
>has the power to make a list of citizens (or lawfully admitted non-citizens)
>and refuse those people their constitutional right to travel in the United
>States.
 
>So why are armed goons keeping them off airplanes, trains, buses, and
>ships?  Because the US constitution is like the USSR constitution --
>nicely written, but unenforced?  Because the public is too afraid of
>the government, or the terrorists, or Emmanuel Goldstein, or the
>boogie-man, to assert the rights their ancestors died to protect?
 
Tsk. Don't you know that you're with us or you're with the terrorists? If
you're not careful the Justice Department will decide that you are a 
"person of interest" and whisk you off to an undisclosed location until
the war on terror is over with a stopover in Saudi or Egypt for torture.
 
A lifetime ago Franklin Roosevelt said "The only thing we have to fear
is fear itself." Today the government is peddling fear itself.

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

[Tyler Durden]

Hell, the entire Cold War, John. Including your beloved Viet Nam, which was
a *battle*, not a war in same. When Castro, and North Korea, etc., finally
fall, then the cold war will be over.
That war was won (or lost, depending on how you look at it) by the inherent 
failures of communism itself, not because the US Government was some kind of 
champion of freedom. As I've gone to pains to point out, I think a good 
(though not unassailable case) can be made showing that the US probably 
slowed down free market development in certain places. Hell--East Asian 
communism might rightfully be blamed on the outcome of World War I and the 
need to create some kind of anti-western hegemony.

A libertarian might possibly look at the US Government and it's legions of 
"Conservatives" as being a sort of tag-along (at best) or leech, grabbing a 
ride on the back of certain industries and (of course) "championing them" 
against other technologies (eg, defense, oil, autos...). Of course, neocons 
will turn red at the notion that they promote a very strong form of 
government intervention into private industry...

As for...
Heck, when China's current
gerontocracy dies off and has an *election*, the war will be over. They're
already starting to have private property. So much for "communal"
ownership. Once property is completely transferrable, the last nail will be
in the coffin.
Don't count it. Capitalism, like communism, will likely take on it's own 
particularly Chinese flavor when hitting the high Refractive Index of that 
culture. China's population will near 1.5 Billion before it starts to shrink 
again, so don't look for real estate to be a perpetual contract for a 
century or two, if ever. Private Property in general (outside of real 
estate) has of course existed in China for decades now.

-TD

Re: E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say

[Chris Palmer]

Russell Nelson writes:

> Yes, this is true.  John Gilmore is a pain in the ass for standing on
> his rights (some government types might say *fucking* pain in the
> ass), but he is correct.  ALL of the effort spent to secure open
> relays was basically wasted effort, because spammers just moved on to
> insecure client machines.  The proper route to control spam is to
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Spammers will start hijacking authenticated servers.

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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

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At 11:21 AM -0800 11/22/04, John Young wrote:
>Every application of US military might since WW2 has failed.

Korea. Yes. Korea.

Hell, the entire Cold War, John. Including your beloved Viet Nam, which was
a *battle*, not a war in same. When Castro, and North Korea, etc., finally
fall, then the cold war will be over. Heck, when China's current
gerontocracy dies off and has an *election*, the war will be over. They're
already starting to have private property. So much for "communal"
ownership. Once property is completely transferrable, the last nail will be
in the coffin.

Just because, like some ancient techtonic seafloor, your political compass
ossified in the general direction of Moscow, ca 1965, doesn't mean that the
magnetic pole's there anymore, John. Heck, that pole's actually flipped
polarity, last time I looked.

The current war against western civilization started in the 1920's, when
Qutb started writing his Moslem triumphalist blather in reaction to the
complete collapse of the Turkish Caliphate in the wake of World War I.
It'll be finished when the residents of its modern equivalent has property
rights and personal freedom.

As for the the article that started this thread, I'm merely pointing out
that we're entering a period of *Republican* triumphalism. That it has
gotten completely up your nose is no surprise, of course.

Cheers,
RAH

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At 10:38 AM -0500 11/22/04, John Kelsey wrote:
>we need people to do the occupying,

I'm pretty heretical about this. I think if we had decapitated Iraq, went
after our military objectives, like securing what was a threat to us,
including Iraq's senior military and political leadership and their weapons
stockpiles, and left political order to emerge there on its own, like we
did in Afghanistan, we could have done it with Rumsfeld's original 50,000
troop estimate.

No. Seriously. :-).

Cheers,
RAH
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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

[John Young]

The Selective Service website unctuously declares there is
no draft foreseen at the moment and lists defeat of recent 
congressional efforts to institute the draft. However, it
emphasizes that the agency is required by law to remain
at the ready to immediately institute a draft upon notice.

As part of this responsibility It polls educational instutitions 
every 18 months requesting updated information on draft-age 
youngsters who are receiving federal funding, the most
recent of these polls here:


http://cryptome.org/sss110404.txt

A single harsh attack on US interests could precipitate a draft,
and override public opposition in a flash.

The military has nearly exhausted it National Guard and Reserve
options, and will not give up the long-standing strategic policy
of being able to fight two major wars at once. Thus most military
resources are tied up not in the Middle East but in pre-positioned
locations determined by the 2-wars policy.

Whether the US military should forego its 2-war policy and
use its forces in ways more appropriate to current threats
will be determined by those interest groups who benefit from
the horrifically expensive and magnificently wasteful 2-war 
boondoggle.

Two generations of military personnel have been trained for
the 2-war threat, and almost none have faced actual combat.
This inexperience shows in unconventional warfare. again
and again. Big war planners throw big war resources are
small targets, take the applause for the phony war show,
as in Fallujah, and discount lives lost because the do not
show up on big war statistical-casualties diagrams.

Big wars expect big losses, far more than volunteers can
provide. Indeed, volunteer military personnel -- officers and
enlisted -- are careful to throw conscripts into the breech
as if they are expendable ammunition, the more thrown
the higher the credit obtained in charts of capacity, not
charts of smarts.

Recall Kennedy embraced the counter-insurgent tool with
support for Special Forces, but these forces remain a
marginal part of the military, not least because they do not
require much material and political resouces to do their
duty. Big defense, and never forget, big intelligence to
feed the need for big defense,  are far superior ar generating
contracts, jobs, careers and campaign contributions.

The US is totally addicted to profligate, wasteful ineffective
big war policy, primarily because there is little risk in
parading might, bragging about it, threatening with it, compared 
to using it. 

Every application of US military might since WW2 has failed.

STF up and pay your taxes, asshole, encourage your sons
and daughters to sacrifice for the nation -- well, not really
just tell the poor fuckers the military is a good safe job.

Don't get drafted, that's for losers.

Any road, killing the big war planners at home where they
feel safe, is sure to come for their mighty military does not
how to fight that war so busy is it parading forces against
imaginary wargame-type evil empires of the day.

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

[John Kelsey]

>From: "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Nov 21, 2004 9:23 PM
>To: John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

...
>By the way, John, did you know that Bush Is Going To Revive The Draft???

I know this is currently known to be false by all informed opinion, but I don't 
think it's crazy to worry about it.  If we want to fight high-tech wars like 
the invasion of Iraq, lots of conscript troops aren't that useful.  If we want 
to occupy places like Iraq, we need people to do the occupying, and it's clear 
that there's some strain on our forces now.  
Conscript troops might very well be useful for that kind of work.  Suppose we 
invade and occupy Iran next.  Where will the soldiers needed to hold down 
occupied territory come from?  Suppose we follow up with Syria, which is surely 
about as repressive and nasty a place as Saddam's Iraq.  

Three things are very clear about the current situation:

a.  A lot of people are finding out that their military obligations are going 
to be longer and much less pleasant than they expected.  This is going to have 
a big impact on recruiting in the future.

b.  If we just want to hold down what we've got, we have enough troops to do 
it, but if we want to really go on a democratizing bender in the Middle East, 
we'll need more troops.  

c.  It's not at all clear we won't be taking some action against Iran in the 
next year.  Hopefully, that won't involve invading them, but it could.  

>Cheers,
>RAH

--John

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Re: A Tale of Two Maps

[ken]

R.A. Hettinga posted:

> Tech Central Station  
> A Tale of Two Maps
> By Patrick Cox


Here is a map showing U.S. population density in 1990:

Comparisons of these two maps make startlingly obvious the extent to which
population density predicts voter behavior.
Maybe the causality runs the other way. People who are more 
"left-wing" (whatever that exaclty might mean) are more likely to 
enjoy living in cities.

Over here in Britain that certainly seems to have happened. 
There's a churn in city populations as young adults move in to 
study or get jobs, then move out to suburbs or small towns later.

Some stay, and they tend to be the ones who are less politically 
conservative.

Sometimes I think that political conservatives just don't *like* 
people as much.   I mean that quite literally - my most right-wing 
friends  are less greagarious than my left-wing friends. They keep 
themselves to themselves more.  They stay in doors more and when 
they are out they are more likely to stick to their own cars. 
They don't like travelling in public transport, or going to noisy 
pubs. They seem to actively dislike social situations where they 
rub up against large numbers of strangers.

And the Anarchists have the best parties. By which I mean 
Euro-style left-wing Sovcialist Anarchists of course, not grumpy 
American survivalist Libertarians.  "Get off my land!" is a 
characteristic right-wing stereotype. "Whose round is it anyway?" 
is not.  Like the old song says "As soon as this pub closes, the 
Revolution starts!"

The standard, rather unexamined, assumption is that rural America has more
traditional cultural values that are associated with the Republican Party.
These include religious, family and pro-military values. Urban population
centers and surrounding environs, on the other hand, are associated with
more progressive values associated with Democratic Party. These values are
assumed to be more secular, progressive and anti-military.
In Britain, things may be different in your country, inner-city 
life is in many ways more old-fashioned than country life or 
suburban life.

Us city dwellers are more likely to walk to work or school, less 
likley to drive. We're more likely to use public transport. When 
we buy things we go to small corner shops and the shop-keepers 
might even know us. They might not know our names,  or even speak 
our language, but they probably recognise our faces.

For some time now (in England, things may be different elsewhere) 
 city-dwellers and inner-suburbanites have been more likely to go 
to church than people in the country or outer suburbs. London is 
the only part of Britain where churchgoing has gone up in the last 
ten years  (though its everywhere lower than anywhere in the USA - 
consistently less than ten percent)

Now teh last census tells us that one-parent families are rarer in 
London than in the country or in smaller towns. (See last week's 
Economist magazine 
http://www.economist.com/World/europe/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3405966 
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Also the proportion of people employed by government is smaller in 
London than the national average, and the proportion of 
self-employed or small businesses is greater.

[...]
Another fascinating and easily verifiable correlation may be tied only
indirectly to the characteristics of population density. The red states,
that voted for Bush in both of the last elections, it seems, are net
receivers of federal tax revenues.
Another thing US has in common with UK - large cities are net 
contributors to tax reevenues.

[osint] Man returned to France after U.S. refuses entry

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Man returned to France after U.S. refuses entry
Officials: Traveler appeared on no-fly list

(CNN) -- A traveler departed on a flight to France Sunday after
authorities refused him entry to the United States, a spokesman for the
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said.

Authorities identified the traveler as being on a so-called no-fly list
on Saturday, and diverted his Paris-to-Washington flight to Bangor,
Maine, where it was met by federal officials, the Transportation
Security Administration said.

The man was taken off the plane, and another man traveling with him
chose to depart the aircraft. The Air France flight then proceeded to
Washington Dulles International Airport without the two men, who spent
the night in Bangor's Penobscot County Jail.

Sgt. Steven Slowik, shift supervisor at the jail, identified the men as
Ahmed Lhacti, 47, and Mohammad Oukassou, 76, both Moroccan.

Slowik said federal authorities had not told jail officials which man
was on the no-fly list, or why.

U.S. authorities use no-fly lists to screen suspected terrorists from
flying on airlines. Due to mistaken identity, some travelers have been
wrongly denied permission to fly or to enter the United States.

While the men were being processed in Bangor, agents determined that the
man on the no-fly list was traveling with an expired passport, and he
was denied entry, said Barry Morrissey with U.S. Customs and Border
Protection.

The man's apparent traveling companion chose to return to Paris with him
Sunday.

A TSA spokeswoman said Saturday that Air France should not have allowed
the passenger to board the flight to the United States while in Paris.

Find this article at:
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Re: Your source code, for sale

[Ben Laurie]

Hal Finney wrote:
Ben Laurie writes:
How do you make the payment already "gone" without using a third party?

Of course there has to be a third party in the form of the currency
issuer.  If it is someone like e-gold, they could do as I suggested and
add a feature where the buyer could transfer funds irrevocably into
an escrow account which would be jointly controlled by the buyer and
the seller.  This way the payment is already "gone" from the POV of the
buyer and if the seller completes the transaction, the buyer has less
incentive to cheat him.
In the case of an ecash mint, a simple method would be for the seller to
give the buyer a proto-coin, that is, the value to be signed at the mint,
but in blinded form.  The buyer could take this to the mint and pay to
get it signed.  The resulting value is no good to the buyer because he
doesn't know the blinding factors, so from his POV the money (he paid
to get it signed) is already "gone".  He can prove to the seller that
he did it by using the Guillou-Quisquater protocol to prove in ZK that
he knows the mint's signature on the value the seller gave him.
The seller thereby knows that the buyer's costs are sunk, and so the
seller is motivated to complete the transaction.  The buyer has nothing
to lose and might as well pay the seller by giving him the signed value
from the mint, which the seller can unblind and (provably, verifiably)
be able to deposit.
Cute. You could adapt Lucre to do this.
Cheers,
Ben.
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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

[Chuck Wolber]

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote:

> At 8:26 PM -0800 11/21/04, John Young wrote:

%< SNIP %<

> By the way, John, did you know that Bush Is Going To Revive The Draft???

Troll -1


> Or was it that Bush Lied and People Died???

True +1


> Or maybe, it was that John Kerry Was In Viet Nam???

Irrelevant...


> One man's "puke" is another man's "original thought", apparently.

Looks like you came out even there b^HBob ;)


-Chuck


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