Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 06:46:51PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Very nice quote. Can I get an insurance policy on you, with me as beneficiary? Heh. Your tinfoil hat factor is way higher than mine. (Also, politics isn't about people on the Net. It's about people marching in the streets). -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net pgpcMwitXycxD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
At 12:28 PM 12/16/04 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: Anyone who owns that infrastructure is even more dangerous than who 0wns the voting machines. Very nice quote. Can I get an insurance policy on you, with me as beneficiary?
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 06:46:51PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Very nice quote. Can I get an insurance policy on you, with me as beneficiary? Heh. Your tinfoil hat factor is way higher than mine. (Also, politics isn't about people on the Net. It's about people marching in the streets). -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net pgpeowXRGu5wl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
At 12:48 PM 12/17/04 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: (Also, politics isn't about people on the Net. It's about people marching in the streets). And RPGs. Lots and lots of RPGs. And MANPADS.
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:58:27PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Look up Johansson, et al. Point light displays. Yes you can tell sex, age, etc., from the ratios of rotational axes, etc, but a stone in the shoe is a bitch. Isolated biometrics are nigh to useless. But integrated, they become increasingly more and more difficult to fool. Some of it is cheap, too. There are phase-evaluating 2d integrated sensors which have a depth of up to 7 m, which are very cheap in principle. Mounted in a gate, this will give you face/ear/head geometry. Calculating a fingerprint from a topology map is something any embedded can do. With IR/NIR you'll get a skin pigmentation map. Teraherz will give you body geometry. Olfactorics will give you volatile MHC fragments, and thus a hash of your immune diversity (and your current perfume). Add gait recognition, and you've got a real rich telebiometrics signature. Anyone who owns that infrastructure is even more dangerous than who 0wns the voting machines. The perfect enabler to establish a totalitarian control system. All faith is in drivers' licenses, a total joke, I got gummies on your 'prints, all your time-derivatives are mine. But grant$ are good, and flavor$ of DARPA be bitchin. Absolutely. It's like owning a mint for grant money. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net pgpH2JQGZ4AGc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
At 12:28 PM 12/16/04 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: Anyone who owns that infrastructure is even more dangerous than who 0wns the voting machines. Very nice quote. Can I get an insurance policy on you, with me as beneficiary?
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
At 12:31 PM 12/14/04 -0500, Sunder wrote: Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/14/alt_biometrics/ Gait advances in emerging biometrics By John Leyden (john.leyden at theregister.co.uk) Published Tuesday 14th December 2004 15:07 GMT Great Juno comes; I know her by her gait. William Shakespeare, The Tempest Retinal scans, finger printing or facial recognition get most of the publicity but researchers across the world are quietly labouring away at alternative types of biometrics. Recognition by the way someone walk (their gait), the shape of their ears, the rhythm they make when they tap and the involuntary response of ears to sounds all have the potential to raise the stock of biometric techniques. According to Professor Mark Nixon, of the Image Speech and Recognition Research Group at the University of Southampton, each has unique advantages which makes them worth exploring. Look up Johansson, et al. Point light displays. Yes you can tell sex, age, etc., from the ratios of rotational axes, etc, but a stone in the shoe is a bitch. All faith is in drivers' licenses, a total joke, I got gummies on your 'prints, all your time-derivatives are mine. But grant$ are good, and flavor$ of DARPA be bitchin.
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:58:27PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Look up Johansson, et al. Point light displays. Yes you can tell sex, age, etc., from the ratios of rotational axes, etc, but a stone in the shoe is a bitch. Isolated biometrics are nigh to useless. But integrated, they become increasingly more and more difficult to fool. Some of it is cheap, too. There are phase-evaluating 2d integrated sensors which have a depth of up to 7 m, which are very cheap in principle. Mounted in a gate, this will give you face/ear/head geometry. Calculating a fingerprint from a topology map is something any embedded can do. With IR/NIR you'll get a skin pigmentation map. Teraherz will give you body geometry. Olfactorics will give you volatile MHC fragments, and thus a hash of your immune diversity (and your current perfume). Add gait recognition, and you've got a real rich telebiometrics signature. Anyone who owns that infrastructure is even more dangerous than who 0wns the voting machines. The perfect enabler to establish a totalitarian control system. All faith is in drivers' licenses, a total joke, I got gummies on your 'prints, all your time-derivatives are mine. But grant$ are good, and flavor$ of DARPA be bitchin. Absolutely. It's like owning a mint for grant money. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net pgpS2DE63LApa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
At 12:31 PM 12/14/04 -0500, Sunder wrote: Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/14/alt_biometrics/ Gait advances in emerging biometrics By John Leyden (john.leyden at theregister.co.uk) Published Tuesday 14th December 2004 15:07 GMT Great Juno comes; I know her by her gait. William Shakespeare, The Tempest Retinal scans, finger printing or facial recognition get most of the publicity but researchers across the world are quietly labouring away at alternative types of biometrics. Recognition by the way someone walk (their gait), the shape of their ears, the rhythm they make when they tap and the involuntary response of ears to sounds all have the potential to raise the stock of biometric techniques. According to Professor Mark Nixon, of the Image Speech and Recognition Research Group at the University of Southampton, each has unique advantages which makes them worth exploring. Look up Johansson, et al. Point light displays. Yes you can tell sex, age, etc., from the ratios of rotational axes, etc, but a stone in the shoe is a bitch. All faith is in drivers' licenses, a total joke, I got gummies on your 'prints, all your time-derivatives are mine. But grant$ are good, and flavor$ of DARPA be bitchin.
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
Sunder wrote: Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/14/alt_biometrics/ Gait advances in emerging biometrics Timing is everything. The coherence of timing patterns is a proxy for identity Measure their timing and you can glimpse their mind Mess with their timing and you can disrupt their intentions Mask your own timing and you can stay outside their track --bob
Gait advances in emerging biometrics
Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/14/alt_biometrics/ Gait advances in emerging biometrics By John Leyden (john.leyden at theregister.co.uk) Published Tuesday 14th December 2004 15:07 GMT Great Juno comes; I know her by her gait. William Shakespeare, The Tempest Retinal scans, finger printing or facial recognition get most of the publicity but researchers across the world are quietly labouring away at alternative types of biometrics. Recognition by the way someone walk (their gait), the shape of their ears, the rhythm they make when they tap and the involuntary response of ears to sounds all have the potential to raise the stock of biometric techniques. According to Professor Mark Nixon, of the Image Speech and Recognition Research Group at the University of Southampton, each has unique advantages which makes them worth exploring. SNIP --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\ --*--:and our people, and neither do we. -G. W. Bush, 2004.08.05 \/|\/ /|\ : \|/ + v + :War is Peace, freedom is slavery, Bush is President. -
Gait advances in emerging biometrics
Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/14/alt_biometrics/ Gait advances in emerging biometrics By John Leyden (john.leyden at theregister.co.uk) Published Tuesday 14th December 2004 15:07 GMT Great Juno comes; I know her by her gait. William Shakespeare, The Tempest Retinal scans, finger printing or facial recognition get most of the publicity but researchers across the world are quietly labouring away at alternative types of biometrics. Recognition by the way someone walk (their gait), the shape of their ears, the rhythm they make when they tap and the involuntary response of ears to sounds all have the potential to raise the stock of biometric techniques. According to Professor Mark Nixon, of the Image Speech and Recognition Research Group at the University of Southampton, each has unique advantages which makes them worth exploring. SNIP --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. /|\ \|/ :They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country /\|/\ --*--:and our people, and neither do we. -G. W. Bush, 2004.08.05 \/|\/ /|\ : \|/ + v + :War is Peace, freedom is slavery, Bush is President. -
Re: Gait advances in emerging biometrics
Sunder wrote: Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/14/alt_biometrics/ Gait advances in emerging biometrics Timing is everything. The coherence of timing patterns is a proxy for identity Measure their timing and you can glimpse their mind Mess with their timing and you can disrupt their intentions Mask your own timing and you can stay outside their track --bob
