Sen. Joseph Lieberman, spammer-in-chief
How the good senator from Connecticut kicked off his presidential campaign: http://news.com.com/2010-1071-981258.html ObCypherpunkRelevance: Discusses law vs. technology to solving spam problem, and how politicians (duh!) exempt themselves from any laws regulating their spammish behavior. -Declan
Re: CDR: Re: Supremes and thieves.
The US Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. Marc Bill Stewart wrote: There were documents that were _going_ to become public domain soon that will now stay copyrighted for another 20 years, and one of the issues addressed by the Supremes in Eldred was whether the grant of an extra 20 years of copyright monopoly to documents that already had expiration dates assigned under the old laws was appropriate, as distinguished from granting a longer monopoly to new documents, but I thought it was established law that if something once became public domain it stayed that way.
Re: CDR: Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela
Harmon Seaver wrote: It's pretty clear by now that last Spring's attempted coup and the current strike was all engineered by the CIA and the current whitehouse scum. Chaves must be a pretty decent guy if he's not rounding up all those bozos who were making the trips to DC just before the coup. You mean, not YET... Chavez is hanged by his own rhetoric, which is taken straight from Peron and all that crowd. Soak the rich rhetoric, followed by sacrifice of the middle class to keep the poor happy, then out and away before the gravy runs out and disillusion sets in. Marc
Re: Supremes and thieves.
Bill Stewart wrote:
At 09:54 AM 01/20/2003 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
It dwindles because the rate at which the copyright period is increasing
averages more than 1 year/year. Quite a number of works which had
been in the public domain fell out of it when the 20 year extension went
into effect.
The public domain *did* dwindle.
Did anything that had already become public domain cease to be public?
I don't know about the US, but in the UK the answer is yes.
Copyright that had expired in works from the relevant period was revived
when copyright was extended in the UK, and the copyright of works still
due to expire was extended. You can insist that a licence for works in
revived copyright be granted, and the owner cannot refuse, but there is no
mechanism to set the fee (a few years ago I had a big argument with Disney
about animating a work by Kipling {In the high and far-off times the
Elephant, oh best beloved, had no trunk} in this category, but I'll
probably end up just waiting, not long now, and hope the period isn't
extended further).
In Europe the Germans extended their copyright first, in order to prevent
the publication of Mein Kampf, whose copyright was running out (it's owned
by the Bavarian State - maybe. But that's another story. Google mein kampf
and copyright if interested. The US Govt. reportedly made $-many from the US
copyright, which they had seized, of Mein Kampf _during_ WWII).
Then the Germans wanted to extend the copyright, and thus the ban, in the
other EU countries.
In 1995 the EU agreed that any work in copyright in any EU Country should be
in copyright in _every_ EU country. The Brits agreed partly because Peter
Pan was in copyright in perpetuity in the UK, by Act of Parliament, with
the proceeds going to Gt. Ormond St. Children's Hospital - a cause that
politicians find it hard for to take anything away from - and the
alternative was to have a set period of copyright for everything, which
would take away the Peter Pan copyright. The Germans managed to get this
into UK/ EU law on the very day the Mein Kampf copyright would have
expired, 1st Jan 1996.
The official period of copyright remained 50 years in the UK, under the
previous Copyright, Designs and Patents Act (1988), but because things are
in copyright for 70 years in Germany, they are also in copyright in the UK
for 70 years.
(However I heard things have changed, the Brits got stiffed, the EU 70 years
is now law in the UK, and JM Barrie's copyright in Europe will expire soon
(as the UK Act that makes Peter Pan copyright in perpetuity will not
affect them). I might be wrong about that)
The Yanks just followed suit in extending the copyright period to 70 years,
as they had the copyright back catalogue anyway, and it meant more money for
them (there aren't any really valuble works whose copyright might have
expired in the relevant times that aren't owned by Yanks, mostly by
Silverlode (sp?) ( =Disney), except Peter Pan - the story concerning the
recentish film and the copyright thereof, the machinations surrounding it,
and the out-of-court not-really-a-settlement, is another interesting, but
overlong, story - and perhaps Wind in the Willows, but I don't know
offhand who owns that one - might be the Bodleian).
At least that was the position a couple of years ago, but anything may have
happened since then, and plenty is about to happen.
--
Peter Fairbrother
Re: Supremes and thieves.
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:51:46 +0800, you wrote: The US Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. Marc First, the US Constitution is a piece of paper currently being ignored by this administration, and most likely any administration going forward. The current stance of the US government is that power comes from the barrel of a gun, not from a grant of limited powers to the government by the people. Second, the now defunct prohibition of ex post facto laws regards criminalizing today what someone did yesterday, and imposing criminal penalties on that person for it. Bill Stewart wrote: There were documents that were _going_ to become public domain soon that will now stay copyrighted for another 20 years, and one of the issues addressed by the Supremes in Eldred was whether the grant of an extra 20 years of copyright monopoly to documents that already had expiration dates assigned under the old laws was appropriate, as distinguished from granting a longer monopoly to new documents, but I thought it was established law that if something once became public domain it stayed that way.
Re: CDR: Re: Supremes and thieves.
Alif The Terrible wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Marc de Piolenc wrote: The US Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. Which has not stopped them yet. Actually, that provision has held quite well so far. I can't think of one exception...unless it's this latest copyright extension. Marc
Re: [linux-elitists] LOCAL Stanford University: face down the DMCA enforcers (fwd)
on Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:08:43AM -0500, Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I suspect would be silly to stage an anti-DMCA protest against an invited speaker to that Stanford class. Lessig, Gilmore, Barlow, Farber, and Stallman have been speakers (and I'm scheduled to be in the spring lineup). Gilmore and others have also been audience members. The CPRM lecture was attended by John, myself, and other concerned community members. At the very least, it makes sense to find out more about the program and have a cordial conversation with the organizers before rushing to stage a demonstration. Activist-hours are a scarce resource; use them prudently, carefully, and wisely. The forums are *open to the public*. A proportionate response is both expected and apprpriate. Why should a presentation at this venue be any different from protests of immoral principles or activities in any other context? Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Moderator, Free Software Law Discussion mailing list: http://lists.alt.org/mailman/listinfo/fsl-discuss/
Re: Supremes and thieves.
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:26:22 +0800, you wrote: Alif The Terrible wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Marc de Piolenc wrote: The US Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. Which has not stopped them yet. Actually, that provision has held quite well so far. I can't think of one exception...unless it's this latest copyright extension. Marc Tax increases by the Clinton administration, passed well into the tax year, affecting income received prior to the passage of the increase. Avoidance of such taxes would be punished with criminal penalties. Or Being a US citizen of Japanese Ancestry. Lots of them.
And another one bites the dust: Dissent Takedown
[x] move supplies troops [x] add Turkey, Saudis to shopping cart [x] work domestic propoganda machine [x] quiet Wellstone [x] shut Ritter up Channel Six News has learned former UN Weapons Inspector and Delmar resident Scott Ritter was arrested during an Internet sex sting operation. But it turns out police caught Ritter months before, but declined to press charges. Sources tell us Ritter tried to meet a 14 year-old girl he chatted with online. He was instead met by police officers, who let him go. Ritter was arrested in June of 2001 for allegedly trying to lure a 16 year-old girl he met online to a Burger King. But that girl was really an undercover cop- surfing the web as part of a police sting operation. Ritter was charged with attempted endangerment of a child. But the charge was dismissed and the case sealed. That means, essentially, that it never happened. Ritter searched Iraq for weapons in the years following the Gulf War. More recently, he's been speaking out against President Bush's policies on Iraq and is frequently seen on local and national television. http://www.wrgb.com/news/local/local_news.asp#H1 ALBANY, NY, Jan. 20 - More details are emerging about the June 2001 arrest of former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter of Delmar. He was apparently arrested by Colonie police as part of Internet sex sting. The Schenectady Daily Gazette reports Ritter was under investigation for a similar incident two months earlier. http://www.msnbc.com/local/WNYT/M264375.asp
Forget VOA -- new exec order creating Global Communications Office
THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 21, 2003 New White House Office Coordinates Global Communications Why? The President understands the importance of conveying America 's message to the world. Better coordination of our international communications will help convey the truth about America and the goals we share with people everywhere. He knows we need to communicate our policies and values to the world ? with greater clarity and through dialogue with emerging voices around the globe. Created by Executive Order of the President, this new office within the White House coordinates strategic communications with global audiences, integrating the President's themes into new and ongoing programs. The New Office of Global Communications The Office of Global Communications (OGC) advises on the strategic direction and themes that United States government agencies use to reach foreign audiences. The Office assists in the development of communications programs that disseminate truthful, accurate, and effective messages about the American people and their government. With State Department Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs remaining at the frontlines of international communications, Global Communications coordinates the work of many agencies and Americans to convey a few simple but powerful messages. These will be aimed to prevent misunderstanding and conflict, build support for and among United States coalition partners, and better inform international audiences. Lessons learned from the temporary Coalition Information Centers (CIC) have been applied to the new Office. Created to react to our adversaries' misinformation, CIC quickly proved that White House-led efforts could facilitate strategic, proactive communications in the war on terror. Last year's focus on the liberation of women in Afghanistan is a prime example. Working closely with the communications office of the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, Global Communications recently coordinated communications about the Administration's Ramadan activity and the President's views on Islam. Recognizing the value of remotely deployed coalition information centers, the President has authorized the new Office to coordinate with the appropriate agencies the creation of teams of communicators to work in areas of intense global media interest. No such team is currently operating, but OGC is organized to move swiftly in cooperation with other US government agencies and coalition partners. America's Message to the World This new office assists the President in communicating his message to the world -- dignity, security and liberty for all people, everywhere. The non-negotiable demands of human dignity and the National Security Strategy's focus on peace and freedom are US Government policy, but they are also universal aspirations. As such, they provide a framework for more listening and greater dialogue around the globe, and a framework in which OGC will coordinate a variety of new efforts. As the President says, we value the dignity of all human life. Family, learning and generosity, both here at home and around the world, are central to prosperity and peace for all. Meanwhile, for security's sake, we seek to defend, preserve and extend the peace. The President's strategy makes clear that peace is defended by fighting terror and tyranny. Peace is preserved with good relations among great powers. And peace is extended by encouraging free and open societies. And America must always stand for liberty. As the President plainly states, freedom is God's gift to every single person. Freedom is also the one true model for national success. Different circumstances require different methods ? we help societies so they can choose for themselves the rewards of political and economic freedom. New Initiatives The President understands that reaching global audiences ? especially people who are open to the truth but unsure or critical of some aspects of America ? will take many years, but we must begin to make a difference now. OGC coordination efforts focus on 1) daily messages, 2) communications planning, and 3) long-term strategy. 1. OGC produces The Global Messenger, a one-page fact sheet sent world-wide to disseminate key points and daily activities on global issues. OGC leads a daily conference call of Administration leaders to coordinate near-term and mid-range communications planning. The office also works closely with the State and Defense Departments to ensure rapid response to allegations and rumors in the war on terror. 2. The new office coordinated themes and events to support the President's successful drive for Congressional and U.N. support for disarming Saddam Hussein. OGC is coordinating efforts to reveal the disinformation and
Re: CDR: Re: Supremes and thieves.
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Marc de Piolenc wrote: The US Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. Which has not stopped them yet. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Harbucks (was Re: Small taste of things to come if the war on Iraqhappens.)
Yeah, not that I frequent them much - as I don't think that spending $7 on a greasy vendi Crappuchino* or whatever full of caffeine, corn syrup and heavy cream is a wise way to spend $7 when the corner deli has damned good coffee for $1.25, but Harbucks** reminds me of the beatnick coffee houses of the days of lore, where men would gather and talk of revolution. :) Strange that such a place is now connected with Working for The Man and creeping consumerism, and evil corporations... Of course, now, the local Harbucks, it's full of palm pilot bearing geeks trying to nervously hook up with a prospective date, while sitting in comfy cartoonish chairs and couches (think the more LSD like Tom Jerry episodes), getting wired on expensive caffeine and sugar and complaining about not being able to take the pressure**1/2, while surfing wired.com or slashdot.org wirlessly, or in need of passing time for the sake of just passing time without getting nabbed by the gendarmes for loitering behding the 7-11 and drinking non-alcoholic beer*. That, and the current dive dot bomb that has hired me as a sysadmin and working me 70 hours a week in this sinking market, has so little room for private meetings that we've had to have some there - in public (irony!), so on the flip side, I see it as a work related place - not conducive to enjoyment. Bah, gimme the corner Irish Bar where nobody knows my name***, but has a fresh Guinness on tap, and a damned good bacon mushroom cheeseburger with a side of fries (and malt vinegar), no cat to ask for my slice of pecan pie or 20+ year old single malt scotch (made in Scotland of course!) and I'm a happy, damed, cyperpunk for fuck's sake! * Sly Beavis and Butthead refrence ** Slyer still South Park refrence - at least it doesn't taste like vomit. :) **1/2 - Tweak character out of South Park referring to episode featuring Harbucks. *** Obligatory anonimity refrence - to keep this on topic - not that anyone cares anymore about not pissing in the pool like 2nd graders South Park again, what else. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :their failures, we |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Jay h wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Matthew X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:47:49 +1100 street, and through the windows of a Starbucks and a Victoria's Secret. Yes all those evil weapons of mass destruction made by Victoria's Secret... they MUST BE STOPPED! The obsession with Starbucks really puzzles me. Starbucks is one of the few mass retailers that actually offers medical coverage to even part timers, it allows people to move from place to place and pick up employment at another store, their policies have always been actively supportive of people discriminated against elsewhere such as lesbian and gay, and unlike Walmart, their prices pose no threat to the beloved 'mom and pop' stores in a community. It would seem there are better targets to attack as the evil tools of oppression. j Sent via the WebMail system at 1st.net
Dissent Takedown...a little sloppy
But that girl was really an undercover cop- surfing the web as part of a police sting operation. OK, so does this mean that the girl wasn't actually 16, just posing as a 16 year-old? (ie, when did the cops start hiring 16 year olds?) So, this guy was busted for BELIEVING that the girl was 16, but the girl was actually 24 (or whatever). That's a crime? (Not meant to be a rhetorical question.) What if I had a dream where I was humping an ostrich, or perhaps putting ole Shrub in a headlock and then kicking his ass...Or, what if Pamela Anderson told me she was 15, but that she wanted to my ? My instincts would be correct in telling me that was a mature, bang-able woman. I guess the propaganda folks are just a little tired. Could it be that they snuck out that little detail for us in protest? -TD _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
total information awareness
I'm sure that I do nothing new in drawing parallels between the occurences in George Orwell's seminal text 1984 and the founding of the Information Awareness Office. It is nothing short of terrifying that someone wants to gather all digital information on anyone and everyone into a giant database for the purpose of finding out who is a social undesirable and who isn't. We are moving into another glorious age, where one may come under scrutiny due to the books and films that we rent, the clothes that we buy, and the places that we visit. This has happened before and will probably happen again and we will still probably learn nothing from it. My question is why is everyone so apathetic about this? American's have always clung to their freedoms and privacies with such pride that I cannot help but shake my head in wonder that people are not bringing serious pressure to bear in an attempt to stop this grotesque endeavour. h.
RE: Supremes and thieves.
Peter Fairbrother[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Bill Stewart wrote: At 09:54 AM 01/20/2003 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: It dwindles because the rate at which the copyright period is increasing averages more than 1 year/year. Quite a number of works which had been in the public domain fell out of it when the 20 year extension went into effect. The public domain *did* dwindle. Did anything that had already become public domain cease to be public? I just asked a friendly US copyright lawyer* about the US situation. In general, works that have fallen into the public domain in the US did not fall back into US copyright under any of the various extensions, including the 1998 Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act (I don't know if he was involved in it. Quite possibly, I'd guess). There is one exception, which covers mostly foreign-authored works which were not in copyright in the US on 1 Jan 1996 (the same date as in my other post...) but which were in copyright abroad. However, this was a result of the Uruguay Round Agreements Act (URAA), not the 1988 extension. US copyright durations have been extended 11 times so far... and I agree that the public domain has been impoverished by this, in the sense that newer works have not fallen into it. -- Peter Fairbrother OK, thanks, I concede. It's been pointed out that in Europe some of the extensions resulted in some things falling out of PD. Not very germaine, but one really weird wrinkle is the status of the film It's a wonderful life. The owner, apparently by oversight, failed to renew the copyright in mid-70s, and the film fell into the public domain. If you recall, during the 80s and early 90s the film became utterly inescapable on TV during the holiday season (I remember counting it being on no fewer then 8 times in one day once, in separate single showings) However, in 1993, Republic Pictures started to assert control on the basis that the song Buffalo Girls (which occurs many times throughout the film) was still in copyright. So, the film has effectively been removed from PD, after being in PD for nearly two decades. It's now seen much more rarely. Peter Trei
CodeCon presentations announced and registration open
CodeCon 2.0 is the premier event in 2003 for the P2P, Cypherpunk, and network/security application developer community. It is a workshop for developers of real-world applications with working code and active development projects. CodeCon registration is $95; a $15 discount is available for attendees who register online prior to February 15th. CodeCon 2.0 will be held February 22-24, noon-6pm, at Club NV (525 Howard Street) in San Francisco. http://www.codecon.info Presentations will include: * Advogato - Good metadata, even when under attack, based on a trust metric * Alluvium - p2p media streaming for low-bandwidth broadcasters * Bayonne - Telephony application services for freely licensed operating systems * Cryptopy - pure Python crypto * DeepGreen - Agent Oriented investment analysis designed to be self-funding * GNU radio - Hacking the RF Spectrum with Free Software and Hardware * HOTorNOT - A working example of well-designed website user interface * Hydan - Steganographically conceal a message into an executable application * Khashmir - A distributed hash table library upon which applications can be built * Mixminion - A next-generation anonymous remailer * Neurogrid - Decentralized Fuzzy Meta-Data Search * OpenRatings - An open source professor ratings engine * Paketto Keiretsu - Interesting and Useful Techniques for TCP/IP Networking * YouServ - A communal web-hosting system for the masses * A panel on future directions in version control
Israeli hit teams - Erroneous Analysis.
Israeli hit teams - Erroneous Analysis. Reference Documents: http://www.etherzone.com/2003/sans012103.shtml http://kevxml2a.infospace.com/_1_OY9T5W04I69RZH__info/kevxml?kcfg=upi- articlesin=2003011516200305078otmpl=/upi/story.htmqcat=newsrn=419qk=10pass date=01/15/2003 In Regard to, amongst other topics, Joe Sansone's excessively short-sighted and erroneous analysis: Granted, IC operations may have down sides when engaguing politial motivations, however, the use of Mossad tactical teams in the USA is a VERY high asset to the american and international population and their safety. The US FBI is blatently incapable of performing security tasks, in a large majority of cases, US federal agents have requested and required the assistance of private security teams and corporate resources to isolate and destroy hostile weapons, bombs, and perform required interception of terrorist actions. The US Federal Government is INCAPABLE of responding to real-time threats, especially those of highly skilled terrorist operations. The use of military special forces and CIA resources is forbidden by law on US soil. No party aside from a limited few private and corporate tactical teams are capable of responding in a manner required in these situations. The only parties capable of advanced IC operation and response within the US and numerous other countries are operatives of international origin. Most of the other countries attempting to deal with terrorist activity are also prevented from taking effecient action against hostile threats with similar logistics, and MOST enlist and contract CIA or US IC operatives who are within their country to engague the issues. In this case, the public acknowledgement that a 3rd party is attempting to stabilize and secure the US territories is and should be highly supported. No US GOVT operation is capable of responding to a realtime terrorist threat. Corporate and Private sector operations are limited in their heavy weapons capabilities, and typically have issues working with US-federal entities due to extreme security concerns. The only party capable of intercepting that weapon that is trying to kill you, the simple american, are international IC operatives. As long as they are not engagued in hostile targeting of parties who can be dealt with in more appropriate manners (containment), such tactical response teams are HIGHLY supportive of american safety. It is unfortionate that all media response thus far to this issue has brought more attention to the undesirable factors of having non-local IC operatives present, however, they also fail to recognise the ability of these teams to do things impossible for US agents due to current restrictions. These operatives, in most cases, and their logistic infrastructure, already exist in all countries. Why not allow them to do their job? I disagree with the assination of a researcher and scientific developer as referenced, however, these operatives are ALSO capable, and most are more inclined to do so, in preventive operations which eliminate extreme threats before people are killed. Just think what would have happened to a large number of american cities and infrastructure if the international IC and covert operations specialists and corporate security teams had REFUSED to compensate for the American Federal Government's incapacity to respond to realtime threats? You might not be alive right now. Think before you write or accept severely erroneous articles. -Wilfred L. Guerin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Supremes and thieves.
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Trei, Peter wrote: However, in 1993, Republic Pictures started to assert control on the basis that the song Buffalo Girls (which occurs many times throughout the film) was still in copyright. So, the film has effectively been removed from PD, after being in PD for nearly two decades. It's now seen much more rarely. Might be interesting to re-edit the film without the song. I have to wonder if that version of the film would be public domain or not. Or does the existence of some copyrighted material within the work taint it completely, even if the copyrighted material is removed? -Jack
RE: Supremes and thieves.
Jack Lloyd[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Trei, Peter wrote: However, in 1993, Republic Pictures started to assert control on the basis that the song Buffalo Girls (which occurs many times throughout the film) was still in copyright. So, the film has effectively been removed from PD, after being in PD for nearly two decades. It's now seen much more rarely. Might be interesting to re-edit the film without the song. I have to wonder if that version of the film would be public domain or not. Or does the existence of some copyrighted material within the work taint it completely, even if the copyrighted material is removed? -Jack The song is sung by Jimmy Stewart, on camera, so a new soundtrack would be tough. As to the rest - I don't know. Peter
RE: Supremes and thieves.
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Trei, Peter wrote: The song is sung by Jimmy Stewart, on camera, so a new soundtrack would be tough. Given that they can make dead actors dance in commercials, I can't imagine it would be terribly difficult to do it. Though I know next to nothing about video editing in general, so maybe not.
RE: Supremes and thieves.
At 2:50 PM -0800 1/21/03, Jack Lloyd wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Trei, Peter wrote: The song is sung by Jimmy Stewart, on camera, so a new soundtrack would be tough. Given that they can make dead actors dance in commercials, I can't imagine it would be terribly difficult to do it. Though I know next to nothing about video editing in general, so maybe not. But after making this dead actor sing a different song, it would a new work, and the copyright clock would be reset. Now if someone wants to do the work on an open-source-like basis... Cheers - Bill - Bill Frantz | Sacred cows make the | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | tastiest hamburgers. | 16345 Englewood Ave. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - David Wagner | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA
Re: total information awareness
I think it has more to do with the fact that freedom is just an abstract concept until your own door gets kicked in. Most people don't get their doors kicked in, so they ignore the men with guns. Quite a few people have had SWAT teams rough them up (and few have gotten killed) with WoD, so it's not so abstract anymore for them and their friends. When a million people have been killed by accident freedom won't be abstract anymore. But until then, the frog cooks. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Sunder wrote: Because we've been conditioned to do so. In the name of national security. The old passphrase to the constitution, the old four horsemen of the apocalypse still applies: drug dealers, child pornographers, organized crime and terrorists. The last horseman is now riding high. The frog is unaware that the water is already boiling. On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: I'm sure that I do nothing new in drawing parallels between the occurences in George Orwell's seminal text 1984 and the founding of the Information Awareness Office. It is nothing short of terrifying that someone wants to gather all digital information on anyone and everyone into a giant database for the purpose of finding out who is a social undesirable and who isn't. We are moving into another glorious age, where one may come under scrutiny due to the books and films that we rent, the clothes that we buy, and the places that we visit. This has happened before and will probably happen again and we will still probably learn nothing from it. My question is why is everyone so apathetic about this? American's have always clung to their freedoms and privacies with such pride that I cannot help but shake my head in wonder that people are not bringing serious pressure to bear in an attempt to stop this grotesque endeavour. h.
Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela
-- Harmon Seaver: Well, but only a strike of the executives and some technicians. Not of the general workers. James A. Donald: When they bring out the army against the strikers as well as foreign scab labor, it is the workers. Harmon Seaver: Nope, not a chance. Most of the people out on strike were executives Then why the army? It's pretty clear by now that last Spring's attempted coup and the current strike was all engineered by the CIA and the current whitehouse scum. Then why the army and the guest worker scab laborers? --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG HF32U1ydzozTdZ6i7yRo/SgdkaZuGDrT5P2V9z6i 4YTrwmYIFejPLVEGKL7Y3nFQ6Mg+g07DVuTLLqTN2
Re: CDR: Re: Forget VOA -- new exec order creating Global Communications Office
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, W H Robinson wrote: The President understands that reaching global audiences - especially people who are open to the truth but unsure or critical of some aspects of America - will take many years, but we must begin to make a difference now. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark mustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother. Last time I heard someone say that, they were stood on my doorstep with a Bible in their hand. That was George all right... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: total information awareness
Because we've been conditioned to do so. In the name of national security. The old passphrase to the constitution, the old four horsemen of the apocalypse still applies: drug dealers, child pornographers, organized crime and terrorists. The last horseman is now riding high. The frog is unaware that the water is already boiling. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :their failures, we |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: I'm sure that I do nothing new in drawing parallels between the occurences in George Orwell's seminal text 1984 and the founding of the Information Awareness Office. It is nothing short of terrifying that someone wants to gather all digital information on anyone and everyone into a giant database for the purpose of finding out who is a social undesirable and who isn't. We are moving into another glorious age, where one may come under scrutiny due to the books and films that we rent, the clothes that we buy, and the places that we visit. This has happened before and will probably happen again and we will still probably learn nothing from it. My question is why is everyone so apathetic about this? American's have always clung to their freedoms and privacies with such pride that I cannot help but shake my head in wonder that people are not bringing serious pressure to bear in an attempt to stop this grotesque endeavour. h.
Re: Forget VOA -- new exec order creating Global Communications Office
roflmfaoapimp. In a scarey kinda way. Thank Allah for indepent media... Declan McCullagh wrote: New White House Office Coordinates Global Communications Why? I think we know why. If the messenger brig s amessage people don't like and then they shoot the messenger and eat the message laughing, then why not create a messenger that can't be eaten? (Some kind of Robotic Monkey maybe.) The President understands the importance of conveying America's message to the world. And yet, so lacking in vice versas. convey the truth about America and the goals we share with people everywhere. Yes, everywhere. *fetches map* [...] with greater clarity [...] disseminate truthful, accurate, and effective messages about the American people and their government. [...] convey a few simple but powerful messages. Shouldn't Saatchi Saatchi be doing this kind of thing? Maybe, as part of our shared global vision duty, we should be thinking up ways to get the message across - viral marketing, anyone? There's an entire infrastructure based on this kind of thing, why not tap into that? These will be aimed to prevent misunderstanding and conflict, build support for and among United States coalition partners, and better inform international audiences. [...] America's Message to the World [...] The President understands that reaching global audiences - especially people who are open to the truth but unsure or critical of some aspects of America - will take many years, but we must begin to make a difference now. Last time I heard someone say that, they were stood on my doorstep with a Bible in their hand. [...] (c) The Office shall work with appropriate agencies to coordinate the creation of temporary teams of communicators [within foreign countries in the paper] [...] In performing its functions, each information team shall work to disseminate accurate and timely information about topics of interest to the on-site news media, and assist media personnel in obtaining access to information, individuals, and events that reinforce the strategic communications objectives of the United States and its allies. M, unbiased reporting? One does not bend the truth. In reality, there is no truth. There is only America. Believe in America, and the truth shall flow. Ahhh. (d) The Office shall encourage the use of state-of-the-art media and technology and shall advise the United States Government of events, technologies, and other communications tools that may be available for use in conveying information. As long as that state-of-the-art[tm] media conforms to a format that allows control over its criticsm, distribution, etc... So, surprise surprise, we can expect yet further blanketing of not only Homeland News Sources, but of those abroad also. One wonders how far this control extends - is the Office granted powers to censor or control rumours that may be detrimental to the shared vision of the States? Will sites such as indymedia suddenly start disappearing in the interests of security? Now is the time of innovation through necessity. We don't need anonymity to download the latest Britney song, or to post the latest server exploit. We need systems that not only provide people with the security of knowing that they won't get picked up by the nearest black helicopter, but also that encourage the original Tao of connected technology - that anyone can publish what they want, where they want. We need more alternative news sources, rumor mills, skeptical grindstones. Reputations and webs of trust aren't just for dealer integrity or reviewer consistency, they can easily be tuned to reliability of factual information as well. He who controls the media, controls society. Looks like the precogs of information wars might finally get their day.
Fwd: HiveCache - P2P Backups
--- begin forwarded text Status: RO Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:36:40 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Fearghas McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: HiveCache - P2P Backups Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- begin forwarded text From: Peter Gradwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of Fearghas McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HiveCache - P2P Backups Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:04:35 -0800 Hello Apologies for the intrusion. As well has running an ISP, I have an interest in Grid Computing systems and micro accounting architectures. As part of the interest, I would like to deploy a product called HiveCache (www.hivecache.com) to my customer base, and others interested. HiveCache is a p2p backup system where by you define an amount of disk space available on your machine (which is connected via broadband of course!) and vice versa, your files get split up, encrypted and then stored on everyone elses' disk space. HiveCache does all sorts of clever things, like making sure enough copies are kept in various places, files are split encrypted, allowing you to retrieve them, etc. Ultimately, I would like to faciliate a system where by we act as a clearing house so that users can buy sell disk space resources. In order to get going however, I would like to take part in the HiveCache pilot. To do this, I require 25-50 willing volunteers. You will need: - an always on broadband connection - a few gig of spare disk space - a little enthusiasm and a willingness to return comments If that sounds like you, then please could you drop an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] stating your - name, - email, - type of internet connection and - what operating system you're running on. Any questions, let me know. many thanks peter -- peter gradwell. gradwell dot com Ltd. http://www.gradwell.com/ engineering hosting services for email, web and usenet --- end forwarded text --- end forwarded text -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and minorities is about to begin
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 11:55 AM, Anonymous wrote: I'm sure that I do nothing new in drawing parallels between the occurences in George Orwell's seminal text 1984 and the founding of the Information Awareness Office. It is nothing short of terrifying that someone wants to gather all digital information on anyone and everyone into a giant database for the purpose of finding out who is a social undesirable and who isn't. We are moving into another glorious age, where one may come under scrutiny due to the books and films that we rent, the clothes that we buy, and the places that we visit. This has happened before and will probably happen again and we will still probably learn nothing from it. My question is why is everyone so apathetic about this? But we're NOT apathetic about this. Many of us have acquired the usual assault rifles, explosives, etc., and we anticipate the onset of Revolution. Look to anonymous remailers, militias, and depots as the reason the free man has been preparing. I expect 20 million to die. Fortunately, 18 million of them will be the usual Democrat, Commies, welfare recipients, negro activists, and Socialist fellow travellers. The other two million will be the Bushies. And proably most of the remaining Jews will be scourged, as payment for their support of thefts, of Zionism, etc. Sounds fair to me. Ain't gonna be a lot of negroes and Mexicans after this war is over. (I'm not a racist. It's their leaders and their ideology that is to blame. These leaders have led their followers to acts which cannot be forgiven, and which must be punished by death. Nearly all of them need killing for what they have done, regardless of which mischief-makers taught them their mischief.) We should be cheerful about this upcoming burn-off of twenty million negroes, Mexicans, Jews, and liberals will mean. --Tim May
RE: Supremes and thieves.
At 03:36 PM 01/21/2003 -0800, Bill Frantz wrote: But after making this dead actor sing a different song, it would a new work, and the copyright clock would be reset. Now if someone wants to do the work on an open-source-like basis... It's obviously a job for an Alan Smithee film... you can always give something of yours to the public domain.
