Re: e voting
On Nov 24, 2003, at 9:51 AM, cubic-dog wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Major Variola (ret.) wrote: Secretary of State Kevin Shelley is expected to announce today that as of 2006, all electronic voting machines in California must be able to produce a paper printout that voters can check to make sure their votes are properly recorded. Great! Now when I sell my vote, I can produce this reciept for payment! What a perfect system! Umm, weren't voter "receipts" outlawed some time back because of this exact issue? But it will allow unions to enforce compliance in the collective union vote. And wives can "hold out" unless hubby produces the proof that he vote for the feminista-approved candidate. Voting receipts really open up the democratic process. Of course, for those who think the problem with the West is too much democracy, not a good thing. --Tim May
Re: e voting
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Major Variola (ret.) wrote: > Secretary of State Kevin Shelley is expected to announce today that as > of 2006, all electronic voting machines in California must be able to > produce a paper printout that voters can check to make sure their votes > are properly recorded. Great! Now when I sell my vote, I can produce this reciept for payment! What a perfect system! Umm, weren't voter "receipts" outlawed some time back because of this exact issue?
Re: AT&T Patents Trusted Intermediaries, Sues PayPal
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > "PayPal and eBay have infringed AT&T's U.S. patent that covers transactions > in which a trusted intermediary securely processes payments over a > communications system such as the Internet." > > > I wonder what American Express, VISA (and Plus), MasterCard (and Cirrus), > Diner's Club, NASDAQ, Autex, Telerate, and even Quotron -- not to mention > CRESTCo, DTC, and SWIFT -- would have had to say about *that*? They won't say anything. They won't have to. Paypal and eBay are both dangerously close to being an underground economy. One is able to transact business without that transaction being tracked by Visa/mc et al. Just like the new banking moves are aimed at getting rid of "check cashing stores", these legal manuevers are aimed at getting rid of any kind of non-controlled commerce. Since the end of all of this is supposed to be a cashless society and an "end to violence" I wonder when john q public will realize that one can trade goods for crack and no money need change hands, hence these pushes are more likely to cause even worse crime, rather than less.
RE: e voting
cubic-dog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Major Variola (ret.) wrote: >> Secretary of State Kevin Shelley is expected to announce today that as >> of 2006, all electronic voting machines in California must be able to >> produce a paper printout that voters can check to make sure their votes >> are properly recorded. >Great! >Now when I sell my vote, I can produce this reciept for payment! >What a perfect system! >Umm, weren't voter "receipts" outlawed some time back >because of this exact issue? Thats not how it works. The idea is that you make your choices on the machine, and when you lock them in, two things happen: They are electronically recorded in the device for the normal count, and also, a paper receipt is printed. The voter checks the receipt to see if it accurately records his choices, and then is required to put it in a ballot box retained at the polling site. If there's a need for a recount, the paper receipts can be checked. I imagine a well designed system might show the paper receipt through a window, but not let it be handled, to prevent serial fraud. Peter Trei
Re: Toronto man charged with wardriving, possession of child pornography
At 02:32 PM 11/22/03 -0500, Tim Meehan wrote: >On Wednesday November 19th, 2003 at approximately 5:03am, Sgt. Don Woods (7167) >of 11 Division observed the accused driving his car the wrong way on a one way >street in a residential subdivision in Toronto. The accused was investigated and >observed to be naked from the waist down. He had a laptop computer on the >passenger seat and on the screen was a young girl performing a sex act on an >older man. >The laptop had a wireless adapter card (known as a WI-FI card) allowing the >accused to access the Internet through any insecure wireless Internet signal. Interesting cultural differences. In some locales (eg New Hampshire) wardriving is legal, much like walking on land that isn't posted. Driving while naked is not, AFAIK, an offense under the CA DMV laws, although driving the wrong direction is. And in other locales (various US states) young girls (eg 14) having sex with older men is legal if they have a state license, and consensual filming and publishing of that would be legal. Only driving the wrong way harms others, ie is truly a crime, assuming that sexual activities are consensual. And of course mere *bits* don't hurt anyone. In some locales (eg under islamic law) mere images of humans are illegal. BTW, isn't it a bit chilly in Ontario to be driving half-dressed? Must have had the heater on. - The Taliban: A Faith-Based Organization
