Re: progress

2004-01-06 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 04:32:33PM -0800, James A. Donald wrote:
 The existence of pecunix may well be what is deterring the   
 treasury from a more vigorous crackdown on e-gold.   

You may be right, and it's an interesting point, though partially
inconsistent with the way the Feds have worked to date. Restraint has
never been their strong suit.

-Declan



Re: Engineers in U.S. vs. India

2004-01-06 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:05 PM 1/6/2004, BillyGOTO wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:39:41AM -0800, Steve Schear wrote:
 As has been discussed on this list many who graduated college before the
 late '70s were able to pursue independent science experimentation (esp.
 chemistry and rocketry, etc.).
 Now almost all science can only be learned in the classroom.

What's your motivation for saying that?!

Are you saying that new science has gone too far ahead of the layman's
understanding, that tools are expensive/inaccessible, or that knowledge
is being hoarded by a conspiracy of Illuminati scientists?  I don't buy
it.  Nature is still out there to be studied by those willing to look.
Just try setting up a well-equipped personal chem. lab w/o inviting a visit 
from the BATF or FBI.  Its next to impossible for minors to purchase 
chemical reagents, I had no trouble in the 60s.

Try building and finding a place to launch an amateur rocket (it can be 
done, but now only with the greatest of regulatory red tape).  I did.  Some 
of my group's rockets achieved heights over 100,000 ft (confirmed by 
Edward's AFB radar.)

Try doing independent research in bacterial or viral genetics and see who 
shows up on your doorstep.


 Many of the greatest scientific break throughs were made by amateurs.

who are alive and well, AFAICT...

http://www.sas.org

What about:

ftp://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/pub/astro/SL9/animations/keck-R.mpg
Notice that none of the science avenues presented are the one's I've discussed.

steve 



Re: DoS-ing fatherland goons

2004-01-06 Thread John Kelsey
At 11:01 AM 1/3/04 +0100, privacy.at Anonymous Remailer wrote:
If we put aside the probable and obvious cause for disrupting the air 
traffic - namely, introduction of the permanent emergency state (in the 
future 2-3% of all flights may be affected - small price for maintaining 
the power), I wonder what are the logistics of injecting false information 
into the snooping systems.
It sure looks Al Qaida et al have already figured this out.  There just so 
happens to be chatter indicative of a major attack before every major 
holiday.  This seems to lead to three possibilities:

a.  AQ has worked out that it's cheaper and safer to disrupt life in the US 
by chatter than by actually trying any attacks here, and disrupting 
holidays is more fun.

b.  There really have been attacks planned, but they've either been foiled 
actively (e.g., the terrorists got arrested or shot or something before the 
attack took place) or passively (e.g., the higher alert status, changes to 
security procedures, etc., have made the terrorists postpone their attacks.

c.  There really isn't much useful information about AQ plans in the 
available intelligence, and what we're seeing is the intelligence 
community's priors (in the Bayesian sense; their prior assumptions are 
swamping the effects of their meager data).
..

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Re: Engineers in U.S. vs. India

2004-01-06 Thread BillyGOTO
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:39:41AM -0800, Steve Schear wrote:
 At 11:17 AM 1/6/2004, Declan McCullagh wrote:
 http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-407043,curpg-3.cms
 
 Moreover, it is found out that the Americans are shying away from the 
 challenges of math and science. A recent National Science Foundation Study 
 reveals a 5 per cent decline in the overall doctoral candidates in the US 
 over the last five years.

 Not surprising considering the lack of preparation most get today in school.

 As has been discussed on this list many who graduated college before the 
 late '70s were able to pursue independent science experimentation (esp. 
 chemistry and rocketry, etc.).

 Now almost all science can only be learned in the classroom.

What's your motivation for saying that?!

Are you saying that new science has gone too far ahead of the layman's
understanding, that tools are expensive/inaccessible, or that knowledge
is being hoarded by a conspiracy of Illuminati scientists?  I don't buy
it.  Nature is still out there to be studied by those willing to look.

 Many of the greatest scientific break throughs were made by amateurs.

who are alive and well, AFAICT...

http://www.sas.org

What about:

ftp://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/pub/astro/SL9/animations/keck-R.mpg

 We'll probably never know what new ideas were never thought, or were
 greatly delayed, because young minds in science were only channeled
 through the rote of the classroom.

STOP!  We'll DEFINATELY never know.  Don't Rummsfeldize.



WiFi Repeater?

2004-01-06 Thread Tyler Durden
I'm thinking about a WiFi repeater...

Imagine I work on a high floor in an office tower, but I know that very 
nearby, on the ground floor, there's a public WiFi hotspot.

Now let's say I want to be able to access that hotspot, but I'm currently 
out of range due to the height.

DOES THERE EXIST something like a WiFi repeater, which will allow me to 
reach that public WiFi spot without my being within 200 feet or so? (I 
deploying one or more repeaters throughout our offices so that I can reach 
the public hotspot.)

Of course, it's also better if that repeater masks who I am to the real 
hotspot, and terminates encryption on both sides. But of course, I don't 
want it to cost a ton, and I probably don't want anyone else to be able to 
use it either.

One nice application of this is to be able to regularly send messages from 
this public spot, but without anyone every actually seeing me. And if the 
last repeater is in these (private) offices somewhere, it's doubtful 
anyone would ever be able to tell that this is occurring.

Or so I believe...

-TD

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Re: WiFi Repeater?

2004-01-06 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, I don't think the truly passive route is the most appropriate.

At least, I can imagine the DHCP of Starbucks, for instance, will be aware 
of my computer's Ethernet address, or at least it can be 'modified' to look 
for me and report (to a TLA) when I'm online. (I'm no datacom guy so I may 
have fumbled the correct usage of the terminology.)

With an active device I could be made to look different every time. (I 
suppose some of this could be done in my laptop, but let's just assume I 
don't own this computer and can't modify it.)

And I'd prefer if it didn't cost me an arm and a leg (come to think of it, I 
could probably just buy a few cheap Linksys WiFi routers and scatter them 
around, but I was hoping for something even cheaper, smaller, and less 
obtrusive.)

-TD





From: R/db [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WiFi Repeater?
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:11:00 -0800
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 02:20:15PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
 DOES THERE EXIST something like a WiFi repeater, which will allow me 
to
 reach that public WiFi spot without my being within 200 feet or so?

How about an antenna, instead?  It would work if you have
line-of-sight.
If you're really looking for a repeater, check the comments
from the community 802.11 groups, like Seattle Wireless:
http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/PassiveRepeater


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Re: WiFi Repeater?

2004-01-06 Thread R/db
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 02:20:15PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
 DOES THERE EXIST something like a WiFi repeater, which will allow me to 
 reach that public WiFi spot without my being within 200 feet or so?

How about an antenna, instead?  It would work if you have
line-of-sight.

If you're really looking for a repeater, check the comments
from the community 802.11 groups, like Seattle Wireless:

http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/PassiveRepeater




Re: WiFi Repeater?

2004-01-06 Thread Thomas Shaddack

I can't be considered an expert on this technology, so probably there is
another, much simpler solution.

The first idea (and so far the only one) I got is to use a pair of
wireless access points, eg, DWL-900AP+ ones (the only ones I have
experience with so far); if I'd have a pair of these, I'd configure one to
access the hotspot, and connect it by a crossover Ethernet cable with the
other one, configured to be on another channel and use WEP and to be
accessible only by you.



On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:


 I'm thinking about a WiFi repeater...

 Imagine I work on a high floor in an office tower, but I know that very
 nearby, on the ground floor, there's a public WiFi hotspot.

 Now let's say I want to be able to access that hotspot, but I'm currently
 out of range due to the height.

 DOES THERE EXIST something like a WiFi repeater, which will allow me to
 reach that public WiFi spot without my being within 200 feet or so? (I
 deploying one or more repeaters throughout our offices so that I can reach
 the public hotspot.)


 Of course, it's also better if that repeater masks who I am to the real
 hotspot, and terminates encryption on both sides. But of course, I don't
 want it to cost a ton, and I probably don't want anyone else to be able to
 use it either.

 One nice application of this is to be able to regularly send messages from
 this public spot, but without anyone every actually seeing me. And if the
 last repeater is in these (private) offices somewhere, it's doubtful
 anyone would ever be able to tell that this is occurring.

 Or so I believe...

 -TD

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