Re: How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-05 Thread Bill Stewart
At 03:24 PM 03/04/2003 -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote:

 For those doing the classifying, i.e., those inside government, since
 when did they start charging each other real folding money for
 attending meetings?
Capitalism maybe ? :-)
You mean selling the capitalists rope so they can hang themselves?



How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Seminars/SeminarDescription.htm#Classify

The Commerce Department's Bureau of Information and  Security (BIS), 
formerly known as the Bureau of Export Administration (BXA), will host a 
half day seminar in Washington DC titled How Do I Classify My Item?. The 
seminar will cover export control classification numbers (ECCNs). The price 
to attend is $50. For more information, contact Douglas Bell at 202 482-6031. 



Re: How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:25:21PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
 For those outside the government, since when did they start worrying 
 about classifying their own stuff?

Not only that, this below meeting was from this morning (if it's
partly closed, the open meeting is boring as hell, so I didn't go).

I recall BIS is the old crypto export controllers at BXA, renamed
for more efficient Homeland Security teat-sucking.

-Declan

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The Bureau of Industry and Security's (BIS) Regulations and Procedures
Technical Advisory Committee will hold a partly open and partly closed
meeting. The agenda includes a discussion of encryption regulation
recommendations. See, notice in the February 18, 2003, Vol. 68,
No. 32, at Page 7765. Location: Room 3884, Hoover Building, 14th
Street between Constitution and Pennsylvania Avenues, NW.



Re: How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote:

 For those doing the classifying, i.e., those inside government, since
 when did they start charging each other real folding money for
 attending meetings?

Capitalism maybe ? :-)

 For those outside the government, since when did they start worrying
 about classifying their own stuff?

Anyone who ships anything outside the US had better know if they are
an ECCN item.  If you don't have an SED requirement, you probably can
get away with things, but if it's more than $2500 and the feds decide to
look, you can get screwed big time.  Classifying isn't related to
secrets in this case.

 Fucking 'tards.

Such an elloquent euphamism.

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike



Re: How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-04 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 01:09 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:

http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Seminars/SeminarDescription.htm#Classify

The Commerce Department's Bureau of Information and  Security (BIS), 
formerly known as the Bureau of Export Administration (BXA), will host 
a half day seminar in Washington DC titled How Do I Classify My Item?. 
The seminar will cover export control classification numbers (ECCNs). 
The price to attend is $50. For more information, contact Douglas Bell 
at 202 482-6031.

For those doing the classifying, i.e., those inside government, since 
when did they start charging each other real folding money for 
attending meetings?

For those outside the government, since when did they start worrying 
about classifying their own stuff?

Fucking 'tards.

--Tim May