Re: Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal

2004-11-10 Thread ken
Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 23:30 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yesid=5652
Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal
It's Time to Reconfigure the United States

Chuckle-worthy, if not outright funny.  Interestingly, I could see a
liberal making exactly the same case, but without the ad hominem
attacks.
You mean like http://www.fuckthesouth.com/ ?
Funnier, more factual, and a damn sight more ad hominem.


Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal

2004-11-04 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yesid=5652

HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE: The National Conservative Weekly Since 1944

Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal
It's Time to Reconfigure the United States

by Mike Thompson
Posted Nov 3, 2004
 [From the author: This is an essay I've been working on for the past
several weeks, updated moments ago with what appears to be Bush's final
number of victory states (31) once the nonsense of provisional votes in
Ohio is overcome.

 As an admitted modest proposal (a la Swift's satiric story of the same
name), it is nevertheless serious in pointing out the cancer that continues
to threaten our body politic.]

 Branded unconstitutional by President Abraham Lincoln, the South's
secession from the American Union ultimately sparked The Civil War (a
name that was rejected by Southerners, who correctly called it The War
Between the States, for the South never sought to 1] seize the central
government or 2] rule the other side, two requisites for a civil war).

 No state may leave the Union without the other states' approval, according
to Lincoln's doctrine--an assertion that ignores the Declaration of
Independence, which was the vital basis for all 13 American colonies'
unilateral secession from the British Union eight decades earlier.
Lincoln's grotesque legal argument also disregards a state's inherent right
of secession which many scholars believe is found in the Ninth and Tenth
Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

 Meantime, America has become just as divided as it was a century and a
half ago, when it writhed in Brother-vs.-Brother War. Instead of wedge
issues like slavery, federal subsidies for regional business, and high
tariffs, society today is sundered by profound, insoluble Culture War
conflicts (such as abortion and gay marriage), and debate about our role
abroad (shall we remain the world's leader, or become an unprincipled chump
for the cabal of globalist sybarites who play endless word-games inside the
United Nations and European Union sanctuaries?).

 For many decades, conservative citizens and like-minded political leaders
(starting with President Calvin Coolidge) have been denigrated by the
vilest of lies and characterizations from hordes of liberals who now won't
even admit that they are liberals--because the word connotes such moral
stink and political silliness. As a class, liberals no longer are merely
the vigorous opponents of the Right; they are spiteful enemies of
civilization's core decency and traditions.

 Defamation, never envisioned by our Founding Fathers as being protected by
the First Amendment, flourishes and passes today for acceptable political
discourse. Movies, magazines, newspapers, radio/TV programs, plays,
concerts, public schools, colleges, and most other public vehicles openly
traffic in slander and libel. Hollywood salivated over the idea of placing
another golden Oscar into Michael Moore'sfat hands, for his Fahrenheit 9/11
jeremiad, the most bogus, deceitful film documentary since Herr Hitler and
Herr Goebbels gave propaganda a bad name.

 When they tire of showering conservative victims with ideological mud,
liberals promote the only other subjects with which they feel
conversationally comfortable: Obscenity and sexual perversion. It's as if
the genes of liberals have rendered them immune to all forms of filth.

 As a final insult, liberal lawyers and judges have become locusts of the
Left, conspiring to destroy democracy itself by excreting statutes and
courtroom tactics that fertilize electoral fraud and sprout fields of
vandals who will cast undeserved and copious ballots on Election Day.

 The truth is, America is not just broken--it is becoming irreparable. If
you believe that recent years of uncivil behavior are burdensome, imagine
the likelihood of a future in which all bizarre acts are the norm, and a
government-booted foot stands permanently on your face.

 That is why the unthinkable must become thinkable. If the so-called Red
States (those that voted for George W. Bush) cannot be respected or at
least tolerated by the Blue States (those that voted for Al Gore and John
Kerry), then the most disparate of them must live apart--not by secession
of the former (a majority), but by expulsion of the latter. Here is how to
do it.

 Having been amended only 17 times since 10 vital amendments (the Bill of
Rights) were added at the republic's inception, the U.S. Constitution is
not easily changed, primarily because so many states (75%, now 38 of 50)
must agree. Yet, there are 38 states today that may be inclined to adopt,
let us call it, a Declaration of Expulsion, that is, a specific
constitutional amendment to kick out the systemically troublesome states
and those trending rapidly toward anti-American, if not outright
subversive, behavior. The 12 states that must go: California, Illinois, New
York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode
Island, Connecticut, Maryland, and Delaware. Only

Re: Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal

2004-11-04 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 23:30 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
 http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yesid=5652
 
 HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE: The National Conservative Weekly Since 1944
 
 Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal
 It's Time to Reconfigure the United States

Chuckle-worthy, if not outright funny.  Interestingly, I could see a
liberal making exactly the same case, but without the ad hominem
attacks.
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Re: Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal

2004-11-04 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
John Young wrote:
A map of the expulsion civil war declaration:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/ninjagurl/new_map.jpg
 

There seems to be an assumption that Alaska will be included in 
Jesusland.  Whoever is advancing this theory clearly never lived in 
Alaska (or if they did, only lived in Anchorage, which isn't *really* 
Alaska).
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Re: Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal

2004-11-04 Thread John Young
A map of the expulsion civil war declaration:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/ninjagurl/new_map.jpg



Re: Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal

2004-11-04 Thread Pete Capelli
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:20:05 -0500, Roy M. Silvernail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chuckle-worthy, if not outright funny.  Interestingly, I could see a
 liberal making exactly the same case, but without the ad hominem
 attacks.

Like calling Bush an idiot?  That door swings both ways.

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liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin, 1759



Re: Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal

2004-11-04 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 8:31 AM -0500 11/4/04, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
There seems to be an assumption that Alaska will be included in
Jesusland.  Whoever is advancing this theory clearly never lived in
Alaska (or if they did, only lived in Anchorage, which isn't *really*
Alaska).

Ahhh... Los Anchorage. It's just most of the people there, of course.

Cheers,
RAH
Who went to Fairview and Roger's Park elementary, and Wendler Jr. Hi.,
while his old man built 1500sf tract houses on spec, and then an apartment
complex or two, before he retired to Hillsboro, NM, pop 19. Anchorage was
too *big*, you see...
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experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'



Re: Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal

2004-11-04 Thread mfidelman
I expect quite a few of us in the Northeast would be happy to join with 
Canada.  It might be problematic that DC went blue :-)




On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote:

 http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yesid=5652
 
 HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE: The National Conservative Weekly Since 1944
 
 Declaration of Expulsion: A Modest Proposal
 It's Time to Reconfigure the United States
 
 by Mike Thompson
 Posted Nov 3, 2004
  [From the author: This is an essay I've been working on for the past
 several weeks, updated moments ago with what appears to be Bush's final
 number of victory states (31) once the nonsense of provisional votes in
 Ohio is overcome.
 
  As an admitted modest proposal (a la Swift's satiric story of the same
 name), it is nevertheless serious in pointing out the cancer that continues
 to threaten our body politic.]
 
  Branded unconstitutional by President Abraham Lincoln, the South's
 secession from the American Union ultimately sparked The Civil War (a
 name that was rejected by Southerners, who correctly called it The War
 Between the States, for the South never sought to 1] seize the central
 government or 2] rule the other side, two requisites for a civil war).
 
  No state may leave the Union without the other states' approval, according
 to Lincoln's doctrine--an assertion that ignores the Declaration of
 Independence, which was the vital basis for all 13 American colonies'
 unilateral secession from the British Union eight decades earlier.
 Lincoln's grotesque legal argument also disregards a state's inherent right
 of secession which many scholars believe is found in the Ninth and Tenth
 Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.
 
  Meantime, America has become just as divided as it was a century and a
 half ago, when it writhed in Brother-vs.-Brother War. Instead of wedge
 issues like slavery, federal subsidies for regional business, and high
 tariffs, society today is sundered by profound, insoluble Culture War
 conflicts (such as abortion and gay marriage), and debate about our role
 abroad (shall we remain the world's leader, or become an unprincipled chump
 for the cabal of globalist sybarites who play endless word-games inside the
 United Nations and European Union sanctuaries?).
 
  For many decades, conservative citizens and like-minded political leaders
 (starting with President Calvin Coolidge) have been denigrated by the
 vilest of lies and characterizations from hordes of liberals who now won't
 even admit that they are liberals--because the word connotes such moral
 stink and political silliness. As a class, liberals no longer are merely
 the vigorous opponents of the Right; they are spiteful enemies of
 civilization's core decency and traditions.
 
  Defamation, never envisioned by our Founding Fathers as being protected by
 the First Amendment, flourishes and passes today for acceptable political
 discourse. Movies, magazines, newspapers, radio/TV programs, plays,
 concerts, public schools, colleges, and most other public vehicles openly
 traffic in slander and libel. Hollywood salivated over the idea of placing
 another golden Oscar into Michael Moore'sfat hands, for his Fahrenheit 9/11
 jeremiad, the most bogus, deceitful film documentary since Herr Hitler and
 Herr Goebbels gave propaganda a bad name.
 
  When they tire of showering conservative victims with ideological mud,
 liberals promote the only other subjects with which they feel
 conversationally comfortable: Obscenity and sexual perversion. It's as if
 the genes of liberals have rendered them immune to all forms of filth.
 
  As a final insult, liberal lawyers and judges have become locusts of the
 Left, conspiring to destroy democracy itself by excreting statutes and
 courtroom tactics that fertilize electoral fraud and sprout fields of
 vandals who will cast undeserved and copious ballots on Election Day.
 
  The truth is, America is not just broken--it is becoming irreparable. If
 you believe that recent years of uncivil behavior are burdensome, imagine
 the likelihood of a future in which all bizarre acts are the norm, and a
 government-booted foot stands permanently on your face.
 
  That is why the unthinkable must become thinkable. If the so-called Red
 States (those that voted for George W. Bush) cannot be respected or at
 least tolerated by the Blue States (those that voted for Al Gore and John
 Kerry), then the most disparate of them must live apart--not by secession
 of the former (a majority), but by expulsion of the latter. Here is how to
 do it.
 
  Having been amended only 17 times since 10 vital amendments (the Bill of
 Rights) were added at the republic's inception, the U.S. Constitution is
 not easily changed, primarily because so many states (75%, now 38 of 50)
 must agree. Yet, there are 38 states today that may be inclined to adopt,
 let us call it, a Declaration of Expulsion, that is, a specific
 constitutional amendment to kick out the systemically troublesome states